Just imagine that instead of generic bland 'missions' we could send them in real dungeons of appropriate level and they could bring back it's loot for alts or glamour. And at lv.50/60 we could send them to at least ARR primals/raids, or to HW primals with less success rate so they could bring their glamour once per day.
In this case they at least could be remotely useful, but right now they are worse than retainers who could bring various items from ventures (including random dungeon drops) with much less effort.
Adventurer Squadrons are missed opportunity
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10-05-2016, 07:12 PMSuperZayAdventurer Squadrons are missed opportunity
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10-05-2016, 07:43 PMMagic-Mal
Supposedly Adventurer Squadrons are just at the beginning stages and not really finished yet. Yoshi says we'll be able to take them into dungeons soon. And who knows what kinds of missions they'll add in a later patch. As for sending them in to fight Primals!? Unless they all manage to have the Echo that would be suicide!
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10-05-2016, 07:55 PMCaptainLagbeard
From the Letter from the Producer XXXI Digest,
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New Grand Company Content - Squadrons
Grand Company squadrons will be introduced in Patch 3.4. This content will be a type of simulation game that can be enjoyed solo, and will involve assembling volunteers and creating your own squad. In later updates, we're thinking of adding content which you can enjoy by bringing your squadron to dungeons.
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10-05-2016, 08:20 PMmadolyn
It remains to be seen where it goes....but did anyone REALLY expect them to be anything different from garrison missions? lol
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10-05-2016, 08:45 PMRiardon
Got bored of the same excuse that they are adding the base which later sometime in the far future it may evolve into something interesting. If something is not ready do not implement it except if you want negative feedback. If it's not fun you are not doing it right. Squadrons is a silly filler content we didn't ask and we didn't need. We already had retainer venture and airship missions. We said the same about Diadem some months ago. It died on arrival and it's still lying dead. Squadrons are no different. SE needs to stop implementing half baked content.
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10-05-2016, 08:54 PMLaylaTsarraLove when people say **we**. It might not be your thing but please don't speak for everyone. I will say I think it can be fun, my FC mates are enjoying it. You got to love the negativity on this forum when in game people just do the content and enjoy it. If you don't like it don't do it. And yes it's filler content because the game shouldn't be all about dungeons and killing stuff. The more variety the better because different people like different things. Gee paying 2000/5000/10,000 seals before for a promotion was so satisfying right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Riardon
Further development is planned so we'll have to see what they have in mind and just how satisfying it'll be.
It's like Wondrous Tales, according to this forum it sucks, yet in game wow are my free company members recruiting for all the duties they need to do to complete it. Party Finder is the same. -
10-05-2016, 08:58 PMKallera
ooh, what kinds of 18 hour sendaways will we send our charges off to next! I like the one where the selected ones vanish from the room and then not come back until they are done. Always a treat. :p
This thing underdelivered. I honestly feel little for these recruits, I cannot even dress them up proper or name my squad! and if that is the point then that is a stupid point to make. -
10-05-2016, 09:11 PMmadolynlol for real. sounds like so much fun. a real blast. *eyeroll*Quote:
Originally Posted by Kallera
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10-05-2016, 09:36 PMBelhiWhat are you talking about. The thing the OP suggests isn't that much different from the Garrisons either. More to the point it does one of the greatest criticism garrisons had, that being that they did content for you rather than providing content for you to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by madolyn
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10-05-2016, 09:55 PMVaerThis is a bad idea. This would lower the amount of people doing content. I guess if you want to click a few buttons and get loot I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperZay
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10-05-2016, 10:02 PMmadolynso do your followers go into a dungeon with you or do they just disappear for 18 hours and then materialize back with "loot"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Belhi
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10-05-2016, 10:09 PMSavagelf
everything come to those who wait
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10-05-2016, 10:11 PMSessionZero
I think we're jumping the gun a bit. Squadrons haven't even been fully implemented. We're basically preparing our squadrons now for whatever it is they're going to be doing when the meat of the mechanic gets implemented.
This isn't to say SE can't still fuck it up and give us something lackluster, but damn, at least let them actually do that before we all start crying over spilled milk. -
10-05-2016, 10:30 PMMugiawaraWell that's the annoying part. How about they add stuff that's already REALLY good, instead of promising us it gets better...Quote:
Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra
I agree with Riardon there, I said the same thing.
It's just tiring...after getting disappointment after disappointment it's like 'forget waiting' at this point.
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10-05-2016, 10:44 PMLaylaTsarraGood is subjective. You may not like it or it might not be something you're happy with at the moment but that isn't the case for everyone judging from my experience with people in my FC. Personally I've been busy clearing content with my main and alts to focus too much on challenge log or on Tales for that matter. I'll give a more personal opinion later when I've had more time to try these. First impression for me at least is a positive one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugiawara
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10-05-2016, 10:51 PMZafreiThinking about it, and building on this idea slightly, this could've been the way to promote the use of old content. Instead of Tails, we joined DF with one of our chosen squad, levelling them in levelling dungeons along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperZay
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10-06-2016, 12:19 AMAndevomPrimal strength varies. I think it'd be possible to send them out to take on a weaker form of, say, Ifrit without much of a risk. It's not like primals have only ever been dealt with by those with the power of the Echo before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic-Mal
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10-06-2016, 12:33 AMKalleraTheir ability to forcibly enthrall people is why this is a problem. Until there is another way around this, eorzean methods of fighting of the summons (i:e:tank and spank)remains a risky endeavor compared to say, shooting it to death from a safe distance or using mechanised units.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andevom
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10-06-2016, 12:42 AMSessionZeroI may be wrong but I think they have to hit you with their special enthralling magic or whatever (e.g. Ifrit's blue fire breath thing) in order for you to be converted. If you can dodge it or prevent it, people without the Echo should be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kallera
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10-06-2016, 12:59 AMAndevomNot every primal is big on enthrallment either, which explains why you don't come across tempered subjects for each one.Quote:
Originally Posted by SessionZero
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10-06-2016, 06:22 AMMagic-MalIfrit has tempered subjects.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andevom
Ramuh has tempered subjects.
Leviathan has tempered subjects.
Garuda tried to temper the WoL.
Shiva can't temper.. maybe?
The entire Gnath colony is tempered by Ravana.
Bahamut had tempered subjects.
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10-06-2016, 08:34 AMDualgunner
I thought the kobolds were tempered? Remember in 3.4 the big scare was that the little guy got tempered by Titan.
Bismarck arguably enthralled the Vanu Vanu.