The Warriors of Darkness and New Job Conspiracy Theory (Spoilers Ahead)

During the new 3.4 storyline, we finally get more acquainted with the Warriors of Darkness. One thing I noticed was that

J'rhoomale is referred to both by dialogue and NPCs as the Ranger of Darkness.

At first it was strange to me that she'd be referred to as a Ranger as opposed to something Bard related (Ministrel, Poet, etc), especially since all other Warriors of Darkness are referred to with titles that directly correspond to their job (Knight is the JP name for Paladin, Devout and Magus are direct upgrades from White and Black Mage mage, and Arbert is flat out referred to as a Warrior). During the

instanced fight with the Warriors of Darkness, J'rhoomale doesn't use any songs or song-related abilities outside of The Wanderer's Minuet (and this isn't as much a 'song' as it is a necessity to attack properly as a Bard)

But this got me thinking...what if all this was intentional? :eek:
I could be making this up, but I remember reading somewhere that this year's Moonfire Faire had a small hint about an upcoming job. And what could be more overt than the fact that we are assisting the Posing Rangers (though I'll concede that this isn't exactly meant to be taken as the Bow-wielding Ranger).

Could this be a sign that Ranger is a potential new job? What would this mean for Bards? Someone pass the tinfoil hat!

I like the idea of a Ranger class. My friends and I have talked about that before, it'd be kindof easy to do. I know they said they dont want to do a split job path like they did with Arcanist ever again, but this would honestly be perfect. At 30 an archer can become either a Ranger(dps focus) or a Bard (support focus).

Bard could keep Wanderers Minuet in order to do dps damage, while Ranger could keep the mobility that Archer has for 50 levels. They might need to shuffle around Bard's skills a bit, move some of them over to ranger and add some more songs/support skills, but honestly this could work.

And it could be good.

I thought it was more to do with the fact they came from another world and things like White Mages, Black Mages etc might not exist there rather than showing off new jobs or job upgrades and those names we see are that world's version of the jobs we have. The gear as a re-colour was just being lazy with the design time but that's nothing new in this game.

i'm more sure the technic of alissae is a teasing, than the warrior of darkness, i doubt they will do another double jobs from the same class, yoshida have said he will not. anyway, only 2 week for know the first new jobs.

It wasn't a hint for a new job, if they're a hint they're a hint for advanced jobs. The best example was the WHM since she was a devout, a known job advancement after white mage. Can't remember if the black mage was also a magus either, need to recheck the cutscene.

The only thing that makes me think that was nothing more than a name is our current skillset. Holy is a devout skill, not a whm skill.

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http://puu.sh/ruaGs/a301cb0c3d.png
yep, confirmed

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Originally Posted by Snat

The gear as a re-colour was just being lazy with the design time but that's nothing new in this game.

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Tbh I definitely think you're right with this. She was never intended to be a 'Bard' but they couldn't be bothered creating different gear, so just picked the closest thing they could find that would allow her to use a bow and arrow. One of my reasoning against the idea that Bard/White Mage / Paladin etc didn't exist in their world was that she was using Artemis Bow, a weapon specifically designed for a Bard (The original Godsbow iirc) which wouldn't have existed in a world where Bards didn't exist. But now I think about it, I think you're definitely right that this was just developer laziness lol:p

Debeloper laziness? Thats just your opinion, doesnt mean you are right

arent the WoD job names(Ranger-Knight-Magus-Devout) just more references to Final Fantasy III along with the whole flooding light destroying the world?. Cloud of Darkness,Xande and Crystal Tower are all references from FFIII as well so it makes sense they'd refer back to it again.

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Originally Posted by Snat

I thought it was more to do with the fact they came from another world and things like White Mages, Black Mages etc might not exist there rather than showing off new jobs or job upgrades and those names we see are that world's version of the jobs we have. The gear as a re-colour was just being lazy with the design time but that's nothing new in this game.

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I agree, they're techniques weren't too different from our own that they'd be a different class in my opinion. Alissae's Spellblade-like ability, however seems to me more of a hint of the Spellblade job being possible, which would be refreshing in my opinion; a melee magic class. ^_^

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

Debeloper laziness? Thats just your opinion, doesnt mean you are right

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Nobody posting here has made any attempt to suggest otherwise, the entire thread is just supposed to be fun theorizing. If you're going to post a reply please ensure it contributes to the subject of the thread, otherwise it's entirely redundant.

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Originally Posted by DarkSlayerGrimm

arent the WoD job names(Ranger-Knight-Magus-Devout) just more references to Final Fantasy III along with the whole flooding light destroying the world?. Cloud of Darkness,Xande and Crystal Tower are all references from FFIII as well so it makes sense they'd refer back to it again.

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You know, I completely forgot about this but you're right. The Warriors of Darkness and their background echoes the events of Final Fantasy III, so it makes sense that they'd refer to them with job titles taken from FFIII.

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Originally Posted by Pakonitan

I agree, they're techniques weren't too different from our own that they'd be a different class in my opinion. Alissae's Spellblade-like ability, however seems to me more of a hint of the Spellblade job being possible, which would be refreshing in my opinion; a melee magic class. ^_^

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I agree that Alisaie's abilities that were showcased are definitely the strongest hint towards what to expect from a new job in future! There's a few traditional FF jobs that fit her fighting style (Red Mage, Spellblade, Mystic Knight) or perhaps it may be something entirely unique to XIV. I'm excited to find out more!

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Originally Posted by Connor

Nobody posting here has made any attempt to suggest otherwise, the entire thread is just supposed to be fun theorizing. If you're going to post a reply please ensure it contributes to the subject of the thread, otherwise it's entirely reduntant.

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You say it not me.

Not need to say that the story had lazy depeloment with no actual proof.

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

You say it not me.

Not need to say that the story had lazy depeloment with no actual proof.

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They weren't saying the story had lazy development.. they were saying the developers were being lazy by putting her in Bard clothes when she's not a bard, instead of spending the time to design a new outfit for her.

That aside, where is everyone getting that they didn't have Jobs in their world? ._. I never read anything hinting to that and.. I mean technically they were ALL wearing traditional Job outfits..

Regarding lazy development - didn't mean it as an insult. How I meant it is they didn't think it was worth making a whole set of gear for them and its likely due to they wanted them to look like the bunch in the ARR intro.

And Cinno what I mean is its quite possible that in their world jobs like White Mages etc doesn't exist - thus the other names for the jobs they do have that could exist in their world.

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

You say it not me.

Not need to say that the story had lazy depeloment with no actual proof.

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There seems to have been a miscommunication here, but I made no attempt to claim that the story was developed lazily. What I said was that the gear design for the Warriors of Darkness was the same as existing jobs was due to them not wanting to create unique gear for 5 different characters. What I did say that the reuse of existing gear could have been down to laziness, which is simply my opinion (albeit a cynical one). I'll openly admit that I'm almost definitely wrong, and the more likely answer is that it's down to time and resource constraints (it's easy to forget how difficult it is to make unique gear for storyline characters). However, I don't believe there's anything lazy about the story itself and personally I found it very engaging and interesting.

is more for change the heroes.... if you didn't notice they are the heroes we was seeing in every video until now. even in answer it was them.... this story was more for put ourself more in the main role.... like passing the hand to us to save the world now. in a sense is the soul of the V1 that is finally put into rest, saying from now, we gonna only do new stuff... because ishgard was already there in the V1 we was wanting to enter. but from now, we gonna explore a new world... is not the V1 anymore. the heroes of darkness is more a way to say good bye to our old heroes and put us into the main role.

it have a lot of symbolism that can be missed. for se, FF14 v1 is the darkest chapter of the whole FF story line.... they was the heroes of light of this chapter, that why they was named warrior of darkness. and oppose to us, the new heroes of the story. even the video of HW was only showing the midlander.... not a group anymore. because we are the heroes, no one that will do it for us.

is far from be lazy.... magus, devot, ranger and such are name that can be used for talk of people that did reach a certain level into them different jobs or class. lazy? no, fitting yeah.... everything done in this part of the story have a lot of weight in terms of symbol.

do it have leave the people that didn't do the v1 outside it... not really, but for me player of the V1 it have a lot of feeling inside. kinda like we are finally moving on. perfectly fitting for the start of the new arc of our story in eorzea. soon we will finally get the last part of our continent, what some of us did wait for ages. it not something small... it's huge, i'm kinda excited to see what they will announce with the fanfest.

I heard a rumor that Square Enix trademarked a name which could be a leak of the title for the next FF14 expansion. I don't remember its name in full, but it contained the word blood.

Blood-soemthing.
Something-Blood.
Something-something of Blood?

Has anyone else heard anything?

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Originally Posted by Kikoten

I heard a rumor that Square Enix trademarked a name which could be a leak of the title for the next FF14 expansion. I don't remember its name in full, but it contained the word blood.

Blood-soemthing.
Something-Blood.
Something-something of Blood?

Has anyone else heard anything?

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I heard this rumour as well but as far as I'm aware there's been no new information to corroborate this theory. As far as I remember it was Stormblood. Given that the first Fanfest is only two weeks away, we may find out whether it's true sooner than we think!

Warriors of Darkness origins. It's a homage to ver 1.XX since that was really the "first" world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCi1F1OvFSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39j5v8jlndM
https://youtu.be/h542YbZuwkQ?t=5m30s

Two things did stand out though, first was the enfire spell that the devout cast and second was of course the Mystic Knight type class Alisaie displayed.

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Originally Posted by Connor

There seems to have been a miscommunication here, but I made no attempt to claim that the story was developed lazily. What I said was that the gear design for the Warriors of Darkness was the same as existing jobs was due to them not wanting to create unique gear for 5 different characters. What I did say that the reuse of existing gear could have been down to laziness, which is simply my opinion (albeit a cynical one). I'll openly admit that I'm almost definitely wrong, and the more likely answer is that it's down to time and resource constraints (it's easy to forget how difficult it is to make unique gear for storyline characters). However, I don't believe there's anything lazy about the story itself and personally I found it very engaging and interesting.

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Not to mention that the Artifact gear they recolored for the WoDs actually was part of the plot of each job, i.e. the Black Mage artifact gear (Wizard Gear) was retrieved from the Voidgates you used the blood of the other Black Mages to retrieve, and the Warrior artifact gear (Fighter gear) was a set originally designed by the Hellsguard who separated the pieces in order to contain the inner beast (those are the only two I've gotten through and found out about, I'm assuming it's the same for the others)

Seeing the WoDs in gear that was supposedly relic and hidden and unique to each setting was disappointing.

hpmestly think its a name plate to differentiate them from our jobs, yes theyre all advanced jobs of the jobs we have currently, from the ff3 series(amd also in the ff1 nes we got changes from like warrior to knight black white red mages to wizards, etc.)
we got amal'jaa rangers and the like as enemy nameplates so i think thats all there is to it. an upgraded soul crystal would be cool though kevek 30 just isnt cool or very high anymore

I would love a dps focused archer job.

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Originally Posted by Morzy

I would love a dps focused archer job.

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You must mean Bard, because that's what Bard is.

Wasn't red mage getting thrown around as a 4.0 job also

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Originally Posted by DarkSlayerGrimm

arent the WoD job names(Ranger-Knight-Magus-Devout) just more references to Final Fantasy III along with the whole flooding light destroying the world?. Cloud of Darkness,Xande and Crystal Tower are all references from FFIII as well so it makes sense they'd refer back to it again.

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Warrior is also a class in FF 3, being it's version of the Fighter class...
They are all named after classes from FF 3, and their whole story could very much be indeed a reference to it.

While there is a Bard class in the game, it uses daggers and harps, the Ranger class being a bow using damage dealer is closer to FF XIV's Bard which is probably why they used that instead...

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Originally Posted by Connor

Could this be a sign that Ranger is a potential new job? What would this mean for Bards? Someone pass the tinfoil hat!

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A Ranger job armed with crossbows would be nice. Shame we'll never see a Bard job armed with music rather than the bow and arrow though.

Ranger would be a cheap way for them to add a new job. But to some a new job is a new job

Whatever new jobs they add in 4.0 I hope one of them is a swordbased dps job.