DRK 3.4 BiS

Hello Dark Knight's
About 2 Weeks ago I changed my class to DRK and to get some gear I was looking for a BiS but I couldn't find any good Builds or I found some suggestions about Skillspeed Builds but I havent got the experience what Stat I should focus except Vit and Str ^^


So my Question: Have you guys a good BiS Build and want to share it maybe with some explanations
It's my first article and I hope my english isn't that bad at all :D

-Kenny

ACC to cap, then crit/det. STR melds on your jewelry. Same goes for every tank.

Check the other BiS threads for other tanks, generally the tank BiS works for all three jobs.

The stats on the new gear look atrocious. Gonna be hard to find that crit/det.

It's looking like the new Alex gear and the crafted stuff for me. The new tome gear is horrible minus a few accessories and the head piece.

Looks like tome head,earring,braclet,lol parry ring and rest is alex

This is what I'm thinking right now. I'd love to see if someone has something different though.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/W0V4


Edit: Also, i'm under the assumption that A12S is 704ish accuracy. If 700 is enough switch head meld to DET.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/W0VH

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Originally Posted by Rocond

This is what I'm thinking right now. I'd love to see if someone has something different though.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/W0V4


Edit: Also, i'm under the assumption that A12S is 704ish accuracy. If 700 is enough switch head meld to DET.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/W0VH

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Why do you think that A12S could have the same accuracy cap as A8s?

A12S I never missed with 711 acc

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Originally Posted by Ilan

Why do you think that A12S could have the same accuracy cap as A8s?

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It has been confirmed the same by many people testing and I have personally not missed at 708.

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Originally Posted by Rocond

It has been confirmed the same by many people testing and I have personally not missed at 708.

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Hm...thats pretty interesting.

Hmm, it seems the Tome sword should be used over Alex sword.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/W58E

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Originally Posted by Rocond

Hmm, it seems the Tome sword should be used over Alex sword.

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/W58E

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You'll rarely want to use Slaying Pieces on tanks, you're giving up 1.5k HP that could be used to save healer DPS, or allow you to eat a buster in DPS stance, in exchange for a hypothetical 0.33% DPS increase, assuming 1200+ attack power in full i270.

Quick question for someone that doesn't do savage, but will try out extreme primals what would be a decent set to aim for? I'm having a hard time avoiding parry.

I wouldn't even have considered the strength ring except for the fact that we already have plenty of HP for A12S at I250.

I get your point and may use the fending anyway, I just feel like it's not needed in this raid tier.

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Originally Posted by Sarynth

Quick question for someone that doesn't do savage, but will try out extreme primals what would be a decent set to aim for? I'm having a hard time avoiding parry.

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This is kinda me as well. I dont do savage content, although I may get brave one day and give it a try so Im trying to gear up with that in mind. Ive seen conflicting info and perspectives of which accessory pieces are best to focus on (fending vs slaying) and the end result is just me left being confused. I had been considering the Slaying bracer and rings melded with Vit over the fending pieces due to them having the Parry cooties. Just not sure that's the best way to go...

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Originally Posted by Elissa_Nyx

This is kinda me as well. I dont do savage content, although I may get brave one day and give it a try so Im trying to gear up with that in mind. Ive seen conflicting info and perspectives of which accessory pieces are best to focus on (fending vs slaying) and the end result is just me left being confused. I had been considering the Slaying bracer and rings melded with Vit over the fending pieces due to them having the Parry cooties. Just not sure that's the best way to go...

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If you're not doing Savage just grab all the Shire stuff. Yeah, it has Parry, but you're also losing HP by trying to maximize near meaningless (especially for you) secondary stats. You only need to care about this stuff if you plan on raiding. Plus you'll want all the Shire stuff so you can upgrade it in 3.5 or w/e where it will be untouchable outside of raid gear.

All the more reason for nonraiders to still stick to Vit no matter how bad that piece is. Shire body/pants will be your main concern because they net the most stats and the counterparts are only acquired from A11S and A12S. Then save up for 7th week weapon purchase.

Unless if you are raiding, most of the gearing part is rather fixed because they follow the same patterns of prioritization. Vice versa, if you are raiding, you need to get into the BiS club and tune your purchases for that. Scripture earrings, bracelets and head piece and ofc the ring (if you aint into slaying) are all BiS because the counterparts aren't good enough (for ring you cant stack the same ring together, hence why you can consider it BiS) for what's worth. Tanks can still get Shire body if they really want it but i250 crafted comes rather close that it feels wasted (at least I do feel that way) unless if you clear A11S early for that twine upgrade.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

If you're not doing Savage just grab all the Shire stuff. Yeah, it has Parry, but you're also losing HP by trying to maximize near meaningless (especially for you) secondary stats. You only need to care about this stuff if you plan on raiding. Plus you'll want all the Shire stuff so you can upgrade it in 3.5 or w/e where it will be untouchable outside of raid gear.

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I think this would be the best option. Even if by any chance the new 24 man raid drops something that's better than the upgraded shire gears you can simply replace them later when they drop (in 3-4ish months?). If you don't raid then picking the slaying pieces would be fine too, but if you want to step into savage for the first time, I recommend getting the fending pieces too, just to have as much hp as you can while learning the fights and optimizing your skill rotations. After you're comfortable you can start min/maxing and dropping fending pieces for slaying where possible.

Appreciate the replies folks! Gives me some direction and a plan (sorry for the minor derail too!)

First Thanks for your answeres
Here is a BiS I made with the BiS Solver Tool the point is the Solver tries to take the highest Weight. In this BiS he replaced 2 Fending pieces to slaying

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WB86

Any reason you would use Baked Pipira Pira as your food? Priestly Omelette would be better.

Oh sorry thats the Food my FC Member can craft ^^
But yeah Priestly Omelette would be BiS

The BiS discussed in the warrior BiS thread (just switch the axe to the i270 sword) is slightly better than that while maintaining 1.5k more hp (only 1 slaying piece): http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WCKW.

The only advantage your set has is that it doesn't require any a12s drop, so you can use it to progress on a12s if your group takes a while and you can afford the tomestone.

With that BiS you would miss with the priestly omelette

Actually 700 is the target number for A12S accuracy.

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Originally Posted by aleph_null

The BiS discussed in the warrior BiS thread (just switch the axe to the i270 sword) is slightly better than that while maintaining 1.5k more hp (only 1 slaying piece): http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WCKW.

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That is a good set, but the reasoning of choosing slaying pieces is very flimsy, the DPS increase might as well not exist, but losing 1300 hp actually does.

http://puu.sh/rG0kJ/72a6e171b8.png

From what I have experienced so far, Full Fending will be really good at taking tank busters from A12S. Without Grit, you are at the mercy of your healers to help you survive the tank busters reliably.

I usually drop to 20% in Grit with some CDs from the 1st and 2nd Half Gravity. Granted I just realized there is another way to cycle CDs better but having more HP makes it easier for your healers to just do damage without worrying about your survival before topping you up. Different for WAR with the slaying ring if you have DRK for A12S since technically you can have DRK tank most of the tank busters instead. But then again A12S will be a joke in i270s for the minority few, things will die so much faster that you have so much CDs to spare. You prolly will only see 1 full cycle of the last phase in full gear if the rotations don't change suddenly when you push the HP bar to a certain %, like Cruise Chaser where you can skip so many things with high DPS.

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Originally Posted by Sweetgrass

That is a good set, but the reasoning of choosing slaying pieces is very flimsy, the DPS increase might as well not exist, but losing 1300 hp actually does.

http://puu.sh/rG0kJ/72a6e171b8.png

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I've seen you keep posting that very small dps difference, but isn't the whole point of building Bis sets to make the best regardless of how small the gain? I get your point on this 0.3% vs 1500hp thing. If this was Gordias or Midas I would probably be with you. However this is nerfed Creator. The main tank buster in A12S is Punishing Heat. Here is a list of damage taken from my A12S clear tonight of the 5 Punishing Heats I took:

22,959
16,736
19,030
9,926
14,410

I have 32k hp already with a mix of 250 and 270 gear. The only other real threat is Holy Scourge which I Living Dead anyway and can also survive with multiple Cool Downs. My point is, I get that the 0.3% is lol to you, but the 1500hp concern is just as lol.

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Originally Posted by Sweetgrass

That is a good set, but the reasoning of choosing slaying pieces is very flimsy, the DPS increase might as well not exist, but losing 1300 hp actually does.

http://puu.sh/rG0kJ/72a6e171b8.png

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The set he linked had two slaying pieces so I figured he'd want a BiS set in terms of dps output alone. The BiS I'm aiming for uses the fending tomestone ring (this is also discussed in the other BiS threads), at least until I clear a12s or get comfortable enough to know how to deal with the tank busters etc.

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Originally Posted by Rocond

but isn't the whole point of building Bis sets to make the best regardless of how small the gain?

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Guess what will get you more DPS, between:

0.3% more DPS from a handful of secondaries(around 4 DPS on A12S, which is easily overridden by a single crit)

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1300 more hp, which will save you a CD over time/afford a better CD rotation over the fight, requiring less tank stance time.

It's all about how you use your stats, not what you actually get from stat weights and theories.