Spoilers - Alisaie Question

So is Alisaie potentially a Red Mage?

Maybe. Could be Red Mage. Could be Mystic Knight, like in FF5. Could be Spellblade from the Tactics games. We will find out in a year when the next expansion arrives.

Maybe a red mage. Definitely a rad mage. :D
I doubt this is a new job we are going to get though. We already have two using tomes.

Uh, did anyone who did coil get it explicitly mentioned? I beat T13 but not all of the turns and it wasn't really mentioned, though Alisaie was friendly.

Definitely a red mage. The hype it gave me when she pulled out that Sword of Light. I was screaming outwardly, going "OH MY GOD SHE'S A RED MAGE AND SHE'S PULLING THE RDM LB3!"

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Originally Posted by Lisotte

Uh, did anyone who did coil get it explicitly mentioned? I beat T13 but not all of the turns and it wasn't really mentioned, though Alisaie was friendly.

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I think Alphinaud mentioned the three of you going into the coil and defeating Bahamut, while Alisaie talked about how what she learned in the coil changed her, and mentioned the promise she made to you after clearing the coil. You know, when she held a memorial for all the victims of the Calamity. It was pretty sweet of her to include Nael van Darnus on that list.

- Rapier-like weapon, check.
- Fights melee in the battle, check.
- Magic/Aether based "superattack" (Potential Red Mage LB3?)
- Says she's studied different kinds of magic, check.
- Says ''It's official then, gods, I hope I don't regret it" regarding joining the Scions, but to me is like a subtle joke from Yoshi-P, saying he revealed a potential job before fan-fest.

Either way we will prob have an idea in 2 and a half weeks! :D

I thought It resembled more of a Spell Fencer like Bravely Default but Red Mage would be welcomed too!

My brain went straight to her being resident Dark Knight :/

But her being Red Mage instead? I would be down with that.


"... But," I think, "she is wearing green...."

Or maybe she's just a PLD without a shield? Ever consider that? She does use the PLD animations when she fights. The sword just simply spawned from a book, and it happens to glow. Nothing more. Even her casting animations are the same as when a PLD casts Clemency.
Sorry to be a party pooper, but yeah. She's definitely a shield less PLD.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Or maybe she's just a PLD without a shield? Ever consider that? She does use the PLD animations when she fights. The sword just simply spawned from a book, and it happens to glow. Nothing more. Even her casting animations are the same as when a PLD casts Clemency.
Sorry to be a party pooper, but yeah. She's definitely a shield less PLD.

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Her being just a PLD would make absolutely no sense at this point in the game, so near fan-fest. 2.4 also teased a new class/job (rogue/ninja) and I don't think the devs would randomly make Alisae a shield less PLD. As she said in the rising stones, she's been studying all types of magic. And apparently if you observe her in the fight, she casts Runic. Celes in FF6 casts runic. A mystic knight. That's just another hint.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Or maybe she's just a PLD without a shield? Ever consider that? She does use the PLD animations when she fights. The sword just simply spawned from a book, and it happens to glow. Nothing more. Even her casting animations are the same as when a PLD casts Clemency.
Sorry to be a party pooper, but yeah. She's definitely a shield less PLD.

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Yeah cause they would totally create new battle animations for only that short fight. Remember, Yugiri only fought in cutscenes till we got ninja so even she didn't use animations before they were available to the player.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Or maybe she's just a PLD without a shield? Ever consider that? She does use the PLD animations when she fights. The sword just simply spawned from a book, and it happens to glow. Nothing more. Even her casting animations are the same as when a PLD casts Clemency.
Sorry to be a party pooper, but yeah. She's definitely a shield less PLD.

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Thancred in ARR was a Rogue, yet used the Paladin moveset before they actually added Rogue/Ninja into the game.

I think Mystic Knight is ruled out because you see the whm of darkness cast enfire. I think has her own unique job exclusive to ff14.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

Or maybe she's just a PLD without a shield? Ever consider that? She does use the PLD animations when she fights. The sword just simply spawned from a book, and it happens to glow. Nothing more. Even her casting animations are the same as when a PLD casts Clemency.
Sorry to be a party pooper, but yeah. She's definitely a shield less PLD.

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One thing to keep in mind is that Thancred was the same. He played different classes/jobs prior to showing his rogue/ninja skills. Its more than likely that Red Mage can use paladin magicks cause Paladin Magick tends to lean toward White Magic. That and like others said, what if what she use in-game was in-fact an lb3? That is definitely not paladin LB3 and the sword looks more like a Rapier than a normal Paladin sword.

To add to this, her ability to take hits and fight on front line as a tank doesn't seem likely with the hits shes been taking in 3.4 . She Definitely seems more like a Red Mage. Thats just my opinion though.

Thancred is a bard, he clearly mentioned that several times as well as in 3.4

Remember Raubahn's sets?

Didn't Ilberd do some Red Magey things too, when he was fighting Raubahn?

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Originally Posted by Nox_Shinya

Her being just a PLD would make absolutely no sense at this point in the game, so near fan-fest. 2.4 also teased a new class/job (rogue/ninja) and I don't think the devs would randomly make Alisae a shield less PLD. As she said in the rising stones, she's been studying all types of magic. And apparently if you observe her in the fight, she casts Runic. Celes in FF6 casts runic. A mystic knight. That's just another hint.

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2.4 didn't tease a new job, it full on released one. Rogue/Ninja was teased in 2.2.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

That would make him a PLD in the system then right?

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You forget one key quirk with battle animations.

All weapons that lack unique battle animations default to the GLD/PLD stance and animations. This includes instances of Thancred before going full rougue, and every crafting and gathering job. You also have an Alchemist aid you in a THM fight who uses GLD animations, an another example.

Basically, her using the PLD stance doesn't confirm or deconfirm anything.

Speaking of new jobs, that second boss in Xelphatol made me think we need a class that fights with fans.

maybe red mage / rune knight would be a third Arcanist job but the summons will be different kind of magic swords

Maybe.. she's just a gladiator.. who visited PotD... farmed for a bit and got her sword and then came out to fight.. but was too lazy to get/equip the shield...

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

Thancred is a bard, he clearly mentioned that several times as well as in 3.4

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Thancred is a bard not a Bard. A bard is a storyteller or poet that entertains for money. In fantasy they typically double as spies, rogues and agents of various types (which describes Thancred rather aptly). When he claims to be a bard he is describing the fantasy trope, not the job. If Thancred were a Bard as in the job why did he always use daggers and not a bow?

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Originally Posted by SessionZero

Didn't Ilberd do some Red Magey things too, when he was fighting Raubahn?

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People have also talked about Raubahn too as Blue Magey.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

She's definitely a shield less PLD.

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So PLD dps spec confirmed then? :p

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Originally Posted by SessionZero

Didn't Ilberd do some Red Magey things too, when he was fighting Raubahn?

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Nah. He was using 1.0 weapon skills.

As for Alisae, my money is on either Spell Blade or Rune Fencer.

There is nothing Red Mage-ish about Alisaie. She DOES look a lot like a Mystic Knight tho. And that animation reminded me a lot of FF6's Ultima spell... Spellblade, Mystic Knight, hmmm. Check.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

There is nothing Red Mage-ish about Alisaie. She DOES look a lot like a Mystic Knight tho. And that animation reminded me a lot of FF6's Ultima spell... Spellblade, Mystic Knight, hmmm. Check.

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almost certain shes teasing a new job, much like how thancred the gladiator decided to go "
oh right i can use two of these now cause ive always been a rogue"

her new attire looks like leather armor to me, could be a new dps mage melee/caster. all suggestions would fit the bill, mystic knight, redmage, rune fencer(though id rather leave rdm out of it, it very well could be this job)
i would honestly not expect them to branch another job off acn but i guess they could.
I think its more like the thancred thing though honestly.

and i would love a runic/mystic knight. how she nmeeded more aether reminded me alot of runic from celes

I just had an idea - there's no need to have a new job, maybe it's a Level 4 Limit Break (or new 'break' mechanic) from 4.0? Now that would be an interesting thing to incorporate, the possibility of having LBs that are powered up by other players directly.

Of course, it could be that Arcanist (SMN?) changes in 4.0 to allow the summoning of the powers from other job types without introducing a specific job. That would be rather cumbersome.

since she summoned a blue colored sword from her book i'd assume that's her dps stance. so yellow sword for tank stance?