Yo-kai and general RNG

I think rewards are time gated in FF14 to maximize player life with the game.

I spent the longest time in Void Ark trying to upgrade my law set on some summoner i never play. Ended up with my full right side in eso and i started on the left side with only the robes from void ark. Boots dropped today though.

My luck being that bad in Void Ark i switched. I went to work on Yo-Kai because i figured it was a limited time event and there was no real pressure to complete as long as i keep at it. 13 fates, 2 legendary medals with 4 weapons to go. I'm sure because i clear the regular medals between weapons.

A horse might go for the carrot on a stick but it would only take so long for a human to stop trying. What am i supposed to think here?

Welcome to the world of MMOs, they are grinds and a time sink.

The Yokai event will take 700-800 fates to get all the weapons, it is a average of 30% drop rate for the legendary medals.

As for the VA and WC it is all random luck, you can get lucky and get your drops quickly or it could take awhile.

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Originally Posted by Train88

A horse might go for the carrot on a stick but it would only take so long for a human to stop trying. What am i supposed to think here?

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I think if people are having fun they would play the game long enough to get the rewards. If grinding fates for yokai weapons isn't fun. The solution shouldn't be to make the yokai wpns need only 1 token and make the tokens drop 100%. The solution should be to make fates more fun to do. Or to give more than 1 objective for getting the weapons. This is NOT what the developers are even trying to do. The developers are just simply upping the drop rate on all the content instead of making the content more fun. Which is why people are getting "burnt out" regardless how much gear and glamour the devs are throwing at them.

If your not having fun doing 24 man raids and fates, im not sure how having yokai-themed weapon glamour is going to fix that for you.

It doesn't do them much good to make rewards so hard to get. People lose interest and start other games.

I give up.

30% legendary medal at 17 medals should be 6. i am at 3. There is some behind the scene mechanic here which is screwing up my game.

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Originally Posted by Train88

It doesn't do them much good to make rewards so hard to get. People lose interest and start other games.

I give up.

30% legendary medal at 17 medals should be 6. i am at 3. There is some behind the scene mechanic here which is screwing up my game.

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If people give up on FFXIV because they couldn't get all the rewards from a seasonal event when it was clearly stated that not everyone will be able to get all the rewards, then they probably weren't that much interested in FFXIV to start with.

I think MMO gaming is mostly about how you manage your spare time and what you concentrate on. You cannot simply get everything in a MMO. Just find the thing that is most important for you and focus on it.

You could consider me nolifer, I am sitting at +- 8000 hours in the game (well while having social life, school, job and sports but whatever) and even if I would clone myself twice I wouldn't be able to do and get all the things I want.

what is the actual purpose of these weapons anyways? I acquired the knives but i have yet to see the real use of them?
Can we come up with a real solution to useless weapons and gear?

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Originally Posted by DragoonSantos

what is the actual purpose of these weapons anyways? I acquired the knives but i have yet to see the real use of them?
Can we come up with a real solution to useless weapons and gear?

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Glamour and if you get all the weapons you get a 2nd mount. Some like collecting seasonal items and achievements, some people like collecting mounts, some people do it for fun, etc.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

Glamour and if you get all the weapons you get a 2nd mount. Some like collecting seasonal items and achievements, some people like collecting mounts, some people do it for fun, etc.

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I know those but i mean a REAL use. Like forging. or Macgyver Merging to make a Monster of a Weapon/?
Monster hunter has some primitive system but the weapons are unique.

For a solution about storage you can toss them in an armoire. There should be one at the inn.

I don't actually follow the devs. I had no idea i was not expected to get all the possible weapons before the event runs out in october.

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Originally Posted by DragoonSantos

I know those but i mean a REAL use. Like forging. or Macgyver Merging to make a Monster of a Weapon/?
Monster hunter has some primitive system but the weapons are unique.

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...so you basically want to turn every weapon into a relic?
You can use the weapon for a level 30 character or glamour, why does there has to be more? Specially to an event weapon like this thats mostly supposed to be a little gimmick...
If you want to "forge" a weapon: Pick up crafting. If you want to grind your brain out to make "a monster of a weapon": relic awaits!

All i ever wanted was the average 30% for a legendary. Why did it have to go down to 15% at four weapon to go? At 17 fates / 3 medals it's never going to catch up to the 30%.

Sucks to be me.

I was solo farming the Komasan Legendary Medals in Western La Noscea... only got 1 medal within 8 hours.

Joined a yokai farm group and got 8 Komasan Legendary Medals within 90 mins.

For those still trying for the yokai... Form/join a Yokai farm party in PF, should get your medals in no time.

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Originally Posted by Train88

All i ever wanted was the average 30% for a legendary. Why did it have to go down to 15% at four weapon to go? At 17 fates / 3 medals it's never going to catch up to the 30%.

Sucks to be me.

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That's statistics for you. Individual events don't compound that percentage so you can theoretically grind for days and never get a single legendary medal. You can flip a coin and get tails nine times in a row and finally get heads on that last flip, but that coin is still basically a 50% for either side.

Folks got the 30% Average after looking at how a lot of players had to grind out 700 to 800 which tacts it at about 30%. Imho currently the event is kinda poorly designs and the legendary medal drop should really be bumped to 100% (or at least higher..), but grinding 222 FATEs is too easy for some folks >_>

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

I think if people are having fun they would play the game long enough to get the rewards. If grinding fates for yokai weapons isn't fun. The solution shouldn't be to make the yokai wpns need only 1 token and make the tokens drop 100%. The solution should be to make fates more fun to do. Or to give more than 1 objective for getting the weapons. This is NOT what the developers are even trying to do. The developers are just simply upping the drop rate on all the content instead of making the content more fun. Which is why people are getting "burnt out" regardless how much gear and glamour the devs are throwing at them.

If your not having fun doing 24 man raids and fates, im not sure how having yokai-themed weapon glamour is going to fix that for you.

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I will admit a new glamour can help me get excited for a class, even if its only for a short time. Got all giddy over a boxing set idea for my monk and took me a few levels though all in all, burned out and done for now. That a Dragons Dogma online has been eating up a lot of time.

Which kinda leads me to another point I agree with, if the grind is fun people have no issue. Not saying everyone but for those of us who grind out the needed mats for our relic and gear only to be greeted with ANOTHER grind, its hard for some of us to want to go on. If it had come at a later time it wouldn't be as bad. Even though they gave us like 3 months to do it, a grind is a grind. They could have easily made the Yokai event fun by bringing in new or special events like what they did for New Years, or they could have brought in new GATEs or anything. Instead they chose the easy route and stuck it back to something we have been doing for so long. We ran these fates as we leveled, we ran these fates for our first Relic atmas and now we run em again for Yokai medals.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

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Tbh, if there's gonna be a grind it needs to either: 1) Quick. Which might disqualify it from being a "Grind" but I qualify the Moonfire Faire event a "grind" in some reguards and it was pretty quick. Or 2) Fun.
SE could edit this event fairly easily to make it quick, but sadly they can't do anything with it to make it fun at this moment. Hopefully they try to make it better in future events..

Eh, I actually had posted fun but was more going into lines of Dragons Dogma where the grind is there but the combat is always fun and engaging but opted not to bother with the comment. Yet I agree, if its fun, people won't mind the grind at all.

What do you do with regular token once you get all the minions? Can you trade them for legendary tokens?

If not maybe that's what they should have done.

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Originally Posted by thunderbreak

What do you do with regular token once you get all the minions? Can you trade them for legendary tokens?

If not maybe that's what they should have done.

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Nope. The regular tokens have no use after you get all the minions, you can remove the watch so you don't get the normal ones. Don't need the watch on for the legendary coins just the minion out.

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Originally Posted by DragoonSantos

what is the actual purpose of these weapons anyways? I acquired the knives but i have yet to see the real use of them?
Can we come up with a real solution to useless weapons and gear?

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If you are around 30, weapons could be upgrades.

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

I think if people are having fun they would play the game long enough to get the rewards.

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Yes! The issue is that all content will lose enjoyment value with repetition. By nature, PvE content more so than PvP content, as everything in PvE is necessarily scripted (which also says a lot about the base enjoyment value of PvP in this game...).

I dunno. Even if FATEs were a little more fun, I'd probably draw my threshold at 100 for a given item tops.

It would have been fine if the drop rate for legendary medals was a bit higher. I feel bad for people who are just starting this because it'll be almost impossible for most to complete this now on some server since fates are all but dead.

As it turns out i think i want all the weapons.

I just needed to whine about the drop rate which got lower.