Why do they have to put Materia right next to repair? I just accidentally materiaed my +1 wand that had a healer's hand 4 on it. I guess I'm so used to materiaing things that I clicked the wrong thing.
People generally don't want to materia stuff they've put materia in, so why do they not have a better safeguard in place? I've known others to accidentally materia gear too. Reminds me of when they had the option to destroy your retainer with everything on it right next to the dismiss option.
This is more to the developers than the forum trolls who will cry the UI is amazing.
Why did they put Materia next to Repair?
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11-04-2011, 08:30 AMXenorWhy did they put Materia next to Repair?
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11-04-2011, 08:33 AMellohwellomg the ui is amazing u should have looked wat u were doing or counted to 3 Mississippi everytime u clicked on somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Xenor
I hope you got a good materia out of it!
When you try to attach second materia to something, there is a pretty big warning sign before you do. Maybe they could include something like that when you go to materia an HQ item or when you go to convert something with materia attached. Or perhaps have a completely different interface for converting something into materia. In other words, dont have the conversion process take place from the inventory menu. -
11-04-2011, 08:42 AMEstellios
I bet it was a tier 3 MND.... it's always a Tier 3 MND...
This hasn't happened to me yet fortunately, but I do sometimes second-guess myself between "Materia" and "Meld". They should give materia its own menu like suggested and change "Materia" to "Convert" -
11-04-2011, 08:44 AMOnji_T
I've actually had to double check my inventory to make sure I materia'd the right things a few times. Haven't miss clicked yet but it is very easy to do so. It would be nice to have the ability to lock pieces of gear from having the option once they had materia in them.
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11-04-2011, 08:58 AMHiirNoivl
There is a "are you sure?" dialog before you convert anything. Pay attention to what you're doing.
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11-04-2011, 09:14 AMXenorWas wondering how long it would take for a troll to appear. 5 posts, I'm impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
Anyway I'm pretty sure the same dialog box comes up when you do a repair too.
I got a Manathirst 3 from the convert. Such a waste lol. -
11-04-2011, 09:27 AMAndrewNIts not nice to call people names. Hiirnoivl isn't a troll just because he said something you don't like and especially as he said something correct. I would also note you don't get the same dialogue when you repair something, instead you kneel down and the repair screen opens, but with all your rank 50 classes you know this having repaired all sorts of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenor
Hopefully, you have learnt something from this, in which case it hasn't been a complete waste. -
11-04-2011, 09:35 AMTessaJalloh
Hah! Yeah, you probably should have paid more attention to what you were agreeing to. Especially what with how Repair and Materia read completely different.
Shame about the lame resulting materia, but still. -
11-04-2011, 09:43 AMXenorThere's nothing wrong with calling a troll a troll. I specifically said in the OP that this was more for the devs than people to come crying that the UI is amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewN
SE have nerfed the hell out of repairs so it's not like you do one ten times per day any more. You may however be converting ten pieces of materia per day so it's easy to click the wrong option by mistake when they are right next to each other in the inventory.
I suggest you read up on HCI before posting crap like "it's your fault". The UI sucks for a reason. And while it is being replaced there was no reason to put the Materia option right next to Repair like that in the first place. The funny part is the default option is Yes, yet SE don't want you potentially wasting 5k gil in the airship port and set that default as No.
There's a reason they've moved the destroy retainer option from under the dismiss retainer option to somewhere you're less likely to accidentally use the option. It's all part of this HCI thing you're reading up on. Likewise the destroy gear option needs looking at for items you obviously don't want to destroy except in rare cases (those with materia in). -
11-04-2011, 10:12 AMLehed
I think the UI is fine, but it should at least default to no.
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11-04-2011, 10:16 AMKyrsIsleywhen you "repair", the crafting window comes up, not the confirmation box. You do need to pay more attention. A confirmation box != crafting window, stop clicking through things without paying attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenor
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11-04-2011, 10:52 AMBrannigan
They should add the ability to "lock" items and make them un-materia-able until unlocked. I really take care when I'm tired/not paying attention and going through my item list for materia fodder.
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11-04-2011, 11:31 AMsmokymcweed
the ui is trash but we all no this and yes op should have paid more attention and actualy read what the words on the screen say instead of button mashing thru it
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11-04-2011, 11:50 AMRenshiQuote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
but... it's the truth...Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenor
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11-04-2011, 11:54 AMCTSwiftheal
i once actually materiaed an item by accident when i wanted to meld a materia to it
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11-04-2011, 12:15 PMAnswaIt's called your brain. The UI could be utter shit, but you still have to pay attention to what you're doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenor
This feels like you're arguing over having done alt+1 to do Sentinel during Ifrit instead of ctrl+1. That's obviously just bad key placement. -
11-04-2011, 02:16 PMTheVedisrepairs DO NOT have the same warning windowQuote:
Originally Posted by Xenor
why the hell would they warn you that you are repairing?
and sorry, not a troll who responded to you, he pointed out a fact, you ignored the warning window, cuz you just werent paying attentioon, and hate to tell you, thats player error, not bad game design -
11-04-2011, 05:03 PMEruantien
dont blame hiir for your stupidity, in this case there is nothing wrong with the UI, it has to go somewhere on the list and if your too much in a hurry to take the 3 seconds to read the boxes, the fault lies in you.
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11-04-2011, 05:22 PMAleczan
While I sympathize your loss, I do not agree that the person in reply #5 was trolling. They're simply just pointing out a fact, though with a stern and probably unfriendly tone.
Also, the warning windows aren't the same;
Materia warning:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2..._Materia01.jpg
Repair window:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2..._Materia02.jpg
Your character also immediately kneels down if you have the correct Repair Material in you.
However, I have to agree that it is easy to make the mistake if I am careless or being click-happy when I do these actions.
Putting default cursor position on "NO" sounds like the solution I agree with the most. -
11-04-2011, 09:51 PMHiirNoivl
@Aleczan: You say that cause you don't know me. ^^
The correct tone for my post is "Puzzled". -
11-04-2011, 09:57 PMEnyyx
Unless they surround repair with blanks, there's always going to be something next to it so someone will say "Why did they put X next to repair?!"
I once *discarded* something, through the confirmation box, when I was trying to repair it. It happens. I have to agree: Pay more attention. -
11-06-2011, 02:03 AMAleczanHi. ^^ Nice to meet you.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
Now I know you a little bit more and think you're friendly.
This is a valid point I have overlooked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enyyx
Maybe putting the "Repair" on the top as first option would avoid that to a degree. Because above it, there will be nothing, then below it would be "Seek Repair."
But honestly, I think where the "Repair" option is now is fine. I totally agree with this:
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Originally Posted by Lehed
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11-06-2011, 02:51 AMJinkoHow the F*** is he a troll, seriously people cry troll at the slightest thing on this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenor
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11-07-2011, 03:09 AMKafeenI think some people think that anyone that doesn't agree with them is automatically a troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinko
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11-07-2011, 03:19 AMApplePie
This whole thread is trolling :/ inb4troll