Why are houses so expensive :(

I wanna say big thank you to everyone that gave me advice in here. I was able to reach 1,659,569 Gill yeasterday. Thank you so much gonna continue using the great advice I was given.

I deleted the Original post, why? because even with me stating at the end a few days ago "edited I want to say thank you". People were still more focused on my rant and the negative stuff when leaving comments. O well that's life on the forums.

Anyway a big thank you to everyone again that gave me amazing advice you guys are fantastic and to everyone else.

Eat some ice cream drink plenty of water summer is coming.

Houses are not that expensive, they actually gone down in price a lot. A small house is almost dirt cheap as 3.7 million is very easy to make in the game. If person has crafting/gathering leveled up could make that in a month with little effort or less them a week with effort.

I still haven't found reliable way to make Gil myself, so I'm usually making several million during launch week and then live with it until next patch. Tho, I'm happy that now I can very easily level-up my crafting jobs to 60 with Moogle daily-quests.. before I was scared about the high cost/effort of going from 50 to 60.

Had 6.5 million before patch day, managed to grab myself 5th grade house and dropped to 2.4 million.. and now I'm back to 4 million.

I am in agreeance that housing itself is not really that expensive but I find that this is beyond the point.

Housing needs to be available to all players and not the handfull who are allowed to get a open plot. Personal Housing needs to be a seperate system from Company housing it's how it always should have been and seemed to be on course to be until someone flipped a switch and decided this was the "Easier" way to implement the system that has now cost them god knows how much money trying to rectify and bandaid the terrible system they now insist on keeping in place.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Houses are not that expensive, they actually gone down in price a lot. A small house is almost dirt cheap as 3.7 million is very easy to make in the game. If person has crafting/gathering leveled up could make that in a month with little effort or less them a week with effort.

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Dirt cheap 3.7 mil that is expensive not dirt cheap and not everyone has the focus to get all garthering/crafting to level 60. My highest crafting is cooking, can't spell the game term for it, and that's only at level 45. Just getting to level 45 was a chore in its self. I made the money I have so far from manly that crafting job. No matter what Small should be free. Why you have to by them makes no sense to me at all.

Step 1: Level WVR/GSM/LTW/ARM with levequests to 50 (if you have a full time job and no time to play, you likely have 100 allowances).
Step 2: Make your retainers get you glamour crystal materials.
Step 3: Make and sell glamour crystals.
Step 4: Profit.

During busy times like these the prices can go up to 20k per piece if demand is not met for a certain type of crystal. Check sales on login, logout and between dungeons. You can also sell emperor's new gear (buy from mor dhona). When you have more money, buy mats and craft some lvl 50 (and below) housing items, level 50 relic weapon bases and glamour. They are going like beer in a pool party atm. Another steady source of income is low level leve items in HQ and crafting quest items.

I made about 10 mil in the 2 weeks before patch because I decided to buy a medium house and I can tell you 4 mil does not require any crafters at 60, high quality crafting, gathering or mass production of items. It may require you to level crafting a little though.

You can literally earn Gil hand over fist if you do just about anything. Fight the Primals for their material drops, sell them on the Market Board. Do coils and sell the High Allagan tomestones. Buy materials with Esoterics and put those on the Market Board. Send your retainer out on Ventures, quick or otherwise, sell that stuff on the Market Board. Literally they're throwing Gil at you just for playing the game through the Challenge Log. 3 million is extremely cheap. Housing is a feature you're complaining about because you don't have it. The system currently sucks because it is limited in supply, not because of price. Your primary problem is that you somehow don't know how to make Gil. Ask for suggestions and solutions instead of whining. It works wonders.

Depends on how you obtain your income. How do you obtain your gil primarily?

Is it through dungeons only? And how long have you been saving for a house? Also keep in mind Ishgard apartments are coming in 3.4

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

Dirt cheap 3.7 mil that is expensive not dirt cheap and not everyone has the focus to get all garthering/crafting to level 60. My highest crafting is cooking, can't spell the game term for it, and that's only at level 45. Just getting to level 45 was a chore in its self. I made the money I have so far from manly that crafting job. No matter what Small should be free. Why you have to by them makes no sense to me at all.

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c'mon it's 'culinarian' -- just a fancy word for cook.

I actually only have the single crafter leveled up (CUL) and specifically avoided most of the 'omni-crafter' focused advice and made my own path. It's surprisingly easy to find niches that are profitable as you're leveling. Try taking a look at the Leves from 10-50 and you might be surprised to see how much money you can make from the turn-in rewards alone, let alone by selling the item rewards you can get. Gathering is the same way, this game has a big trade-off (in my opinion) between really fast but gil-intensive leveling options, and slower casual ones that can end up generating a lot of money in the long term.

just some wandering advice from a fellow cook!

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

that is expensive not dirt cheap and not everyone has the focus to get all garthering/crafting to level 60.

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Purely battle class characters can make plenty of money themselves. You are just blind to the avenues available to you, available to everyone is the two free retainers and even as battle classes they can litteraly generate money hand over fist for you without lifting a finger.

Hate to break it to you, but in this market 3.7 mil for a house IS dirt cheap. My small house cost 6+mil, I bought it the first time they added subdivisions. There is no free housing, nothing in this game is obtained for free unless it's your inn room. Frankly, nothing in life is free (but that's another lesson).

FC rooms cost 300k if you just want something to decorate. Heck, we got flower pots now. And I doubt Ishgard will be free either.
If you REALLY want a house, start using that crafter. Or farm some primal for crafting drops and sell em. The primal crafted weapons need items that only come from the fight! You can even look at the MB to see what is selling, then search the actual recipe to see what is needed so you can kill beasties for the ingredients. And send your retainer out for MORE of those ingredients. Possibilities! \o/
The price of the plots will slowly go down as they remain vacant, but the reality is, you won't buy a house for anything less than a mil.

They're not only not expensive, they're far too cheap.

You can easily make gil without crafting or gathering. Retainer ventures, esoterics, weekly Mhach, and now Aquapolis. These are just the ones off the top of my head.

Why are houses so cheap is what I want to know.

One thing I started doing when I began playing this game about 6 months ago was saving up for a house.
I had enough, but there weren't enough houses. Was so excited about the housing update because I'd have the chance to use the money I had saved just for this occasion.

But all of the houses were gone in less than 5 minutes.

If you think not having enough money is the problem, you'll be surprised. Saving up enough money is something only you can control.
Finding an empty house...that is the REAL challenge because there is pretty much nothing you can do to find one. It's all about luck.

I'm just waiting for Personal Apartments now since I gave up on Personal housing. Also Personal Apartment will be instanced and unlimited in supply.

It does not remove the Personal/FC Housing issue but at least there is a alternative that can be obtained by all players if they want to put their gil into it.

WOW 3.7 Mill gil? In December I got my house for 2.1 mill, and that's just after it was put on the market.

They are a luxury.

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Originally Posted by Powe

WOW 3.7 Mill gil? In December I got my house for 2.1 mill, and that's just after it was put on the market.

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Depends what server your on. House prices are in three world tiers depending on how much gil is on that server.

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Originally Posted by Derio

Depends on how you obtain your income. How do you obtain your gil primarily?

Is it through dungeons only? And how long have you been saving for a house? Also keep in mind Ishgard apartments are coming in 3.4

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I've been trying to save for a house since last year. And I have calunairy at level 45, Boternist at 16, mining at 16, archmist sorry about spelling I can't remember the spelling and what level it is. I l try to make my money from food but it's like no one buys food any more.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

I've been trying to save for a house since last year. And I have calunairy at level 45, Boternist at 16, mining at 16, archmist sorry about spelling I can't remember the spelling and what level it is. I l try to make my money from food but it's like no one buys food any more.

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No one buys the food you able to make anymore, otherwise people still buy food.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

I've been trying to save for a house since last year. And I have calunairy at level 45, Boternist at 16, mining at 16, archmist sorry about spelling I can't remember the spelling and what level it is. I l try to make my money from food but it's like no one buys food any more.

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They won't be buying lvl 45 food. Lvl 50-60 would be your best bet. Crafting/Gathering food is what I would focus on. Any battle class at 50, will most likely buy HQ 1-3 star food. Same with Lvl 60.

If you get your culinarian to 50, you can take up the glamour quest in mor dhona. (I think you can do this quest on culinarian, some one correct me if not). Then you could get weaver or leatherworker to 30, you could make glamour prisms and probably make some real good money. Alchemist, Carpenter, Blacksmith, Goldsmith, and Armorsmith make them as well, but weaver and leatherworker are the most popular prisms. They just require a clear prism that you buy for like 200g and two class specific items.

People who keep saying 3.million is dirt cheap god you guys are rich.

Been trying to to level DOL and DOH but it becomes boaring and a chore and I lose interest.
I'm not gonna get angry I knew I was gonna get all the rich people in the game that probably own small or Medium house and have like 6 mil or 10 mil in their pocket leaving a comment in this thread.

O well that's life.

And I have made a thread in the past asking for help when it comes to making money and levelling these jobs.

But I wanted to vent and let out steam I have every right to.

You have just recently hit level 60 a few weeks ago and you expect to just have the money to buy the house after being inactive for a year?

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Originally Posted by DisFlavored

They won't be buying lvl 45 food. Lvl 50-60 would be your best bet. Crafting/Gathering food is what I would focus on. Any battle class at 50, will most likely buy HQ 1-3 star food. Same with Lvl 60.

If you get your culinarian to 50, you can take up the glamour quest in mor dhona. (I think you can do this quest on culinarian, some one correct me if not). Then you could get weaver or leatherworker to 30, you could make glamour prisms and probably make some real good money. Alchemist, Carpenter, Blacksmith, Goldsmith, and Armorsmith make them as well, but weaver and leatherworker are the most popular prisms. They just require a clear prism that you buy for like 200g and two class specific items.

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Thank you for the advice Disflavored.

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Originally Posted by DisFlavored

They just require a clear prism that you buy for like 200g and two class specific items.

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LOL, you don't even have to buy them anymore. They drop like candy from all of the dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

People who keep saying 3.million is dirt cheap god you guys are rich.

Been trying to to level DOL and DOH but it becomes boaring and a chore and I lose interest.
I'm not gonna get angry I knew I was gonna get all the rich people in the game that probably own small or Medium house and have like 6 mil or 10 mil in their pocket leaving a comment in this thread.

O well that's life.

And I have made a thread in the past asking for help when it comes to making money and levelling these jobs.

But I wanted to vent and let out steam I have every right to.

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To be honest, 3 million gil isn't very much. I made 1 million in the past 24 hours just crafting and selling things, and I'm not even a high-tier crafter with the best equipment. Plus, I didn't devote my day to making money so it was all done between dungeons and other things, and I'm sure others make more on a daily basis.

That said, feel free to vent. It can be frustrating when you don't know what to do or understand the market.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

LOL, you don't even have to buy them anymore. They drop like candy from all of the dungeons.

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I'm a glamour fiend, I run out :P

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Originally Posted by Flares117

You have just recently hit level 60 a few weeks ago and you expect to just have the money to buy the house after being inactive for a year?

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May of been inactive for a year which is because I moved to Japan. Had to sort my life out. Get a full time job. I'm 31 not a student I do not live at home with perants. I'm not at uni studying. I'm an English teacher in Japan in an elementary school. But before I became inactive I had saved 457,679 Gill. Since you went and looked at my profile noisey I might as well tell you everything so you have the full facts.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

May of been inactive for a year which is because I moved to Japan. Had to sort my life out. Get a full time job. I'm 31 not a student I do not live at home with perants. I'm not at uni studying. I'm an English teacher in Japan in an elementary school. But before I became inactive I had saved 457,679 Gill. Since you went and looked at my profile noisey I might as well tell you everything so you have the full facts.

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That seems kind of insulting, are you implying anyone that spends time on the game and has their crafts leveled and has a lot of gil are just students or people that live with their parents?

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

Been trying to to level DOL and DOH but it becomes boaring and a chore and I lose interest.

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As I and others already told you, you don't need crafting and gathering to make gil.

OP, I get what you're saying. I'm in the same situation like you but for me, it's down to pure laziness. Here's what I did, that weekly drop from Void Ark? I used it for Materia and sold the materia. That is how I got my house today. Before then, I miss the opportunity to farm T4 for Allagan items to sell. Everyone is right tho, there's many ways to make gil. Some faster than others. They just recently increased the gil amount from the daily challenges. Just doing your dailies can net you some nice gil.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

That seems kind of insulting, are you implying anyone that spends time on the game and has their crafts leveled and has a lot of gil are just students or people that live with their parents?

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It is insulting. I have a full time job that I've been at for 10 years, live in my own home, have family and friends and still have all my crafters and miner/botanist at 60. I went from never having much gil to saving up 7.5 million before the patch hit. I actually spent 4,250,000 on my plot (on one that opened up the day before the servers went down) to avoid the Black Friday that I knew would happen (and it did).

What is interesting to me is this poster is an English teacher, but cannot seem to write proper sentences.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Purely battle class characters can make plenty of money themselves. You are just blind to the avenues available to you, available to everyone is the two free retainers and even as battle classes they can litteraly generate money hand over fist for you without lifting a finger.

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Ok so please tell me what's would be the best plan for me I work from 8:45 am till 6pm Monday to Friday. By the time I get home it's like 7:30pm I have to eat dinner of course and I'm so tired from my students I can only play for about 1 hour to maybe 2. Because once it hits 10 I just wanna go to bed. Also keep in mind I some times have to work on Saturdays in Japan school are also opened on Saturdays. Then there is the time difference as well. I'm still playing on a UK server because I'm still learning Japanese. So with all this info what would all suggest would be the best way for me to make Gill with out losing interest and it becoming o feel like a chore. Where I am actually making back money that I might have to spend to buy the items I might need to craft something?

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

Ok so please tell me what's would be the best plan for me I work from 8:45 am till 6pm Monday to Friday. By the time I get home it's like 7:30pm I have to eat dinner of course and I'm so tired from my students I can only play for about 1 hour to maybe 2. Because once it hits 10 I just wanna go to bed. Also keep in mind I some times have to work on Saturdays in Japan school are also opened on Saturdays. Then there is the time difference as well. I'm still playing on a UK server because I'm still learning Japanese. So with all this info what would all suggest would be the best way for me to make Gill with out losing interest and it becoming o feel like a chore. Where I am actually making back money that I might have to spend to buy the items I might need to craft something?

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...you quoted the answer.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

That seems kind of insulting, are you implying anyone that spends time on the game and has their crafts leveled and has a lot of gil are just students or people that live with their parents?

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Know I'm not you reading to hard into it. I'm just explaining where I am coming from and giving more information about my life. Because they had decided to look at my profile. I Wasn't trying to offend anyone by my comment at all. So please do not be offened by it. Again I am sorry to any who has caught any feelings by what I said. I truly am. I didn't come on here to put people down or to offened anyone.

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

OP, I get what you're saying. I'm in the same situation like you but for me, it's down to pure laziness. Here's what I did, that weekly drop from Void Ark? I used it for Materia and sold the materia. That is how I got my house today. Before then, I miss the opportunity to farm T4 for Allagan items to sell. Everyone is right tho, there's many ways to make gil. Some faster than others. They just recently increased the gil amount from the daily challenges. Just doing your dailies can net you some nice gil.

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That's the thing though I'm actually not lazy at all it's just trying to finding the energy to do everything my students really do drain the life out of me. So I would love to have all my DOL/DOH at level 60. But sometimes I get so tired that I full asleep. seems like from what I have gathered from what people are stating is to ether get jobs to level 60 make glamour prism or like you said dungeons from daily rewards.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

Ok so please tell me what's would be the best plan for me I work from 8:45 am till 6pm Monday to Friday. By the time I get home it's like 7:30pm I have to eat dinner of course and I'm so tired from my students I can only play for about 1 hour to maybe 2.

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Have you been selling the materia V you can get from turning in mhach matter every week?

How about using your retainers to get stuff?

There is some money to be made in selling certain levequest rewards too.

If you ever decide to pick up gathering, there are lot of things you can get that you can sell for decent money too. I don't know about your server, but I can net ~70-80k just from selling a map each day. It's like 1-2 minutes of effort.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

...you quoted the answer.

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Wait what, so level my retainers as a battle class?

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

Have you been selling the materia V you can get from turning in mhach matter every week?

How about using your retainers to get stuff?

There is some money to be made in selling certain levequest rewards too.

If you ever decide to pick up gathering, there are lot of things you can get that you can sell for decent money too. I don't know about your server, but I can net ~70-80k just from selling a map each day. It's like 1-2 minutes of effort.

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Sorry what's a "map" and I'm on Odien my Botanist is level 16.

I am pretty sure I whined about the cost of housing on the forums two or so years ago as well.

I have no crafts leveled (6 CUL lol) but I finally managed to buy a small plot the other day.

Tank expert roulette everyday for that bonus, solo coils and extreme primals for items to sell, and send your retainers out on quick ventures often for more items to sell. It is going to take a while for the gil (over a year for me) to accumulate but it is not impossible to buy a house with no reliable source of income.

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Originally Posted by Blackcanary

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Sorry, I should've better phased it. I'm not saying you're lazy. I'm saying that I'm lazy. But yes, with Beastmen Dailies and Roulettes, and Leves, plenty of ways to level your Crafts and Jobs.