Are there diminishing returns or some kind of soft cap on the Gathering stat?
I've been slowly gearing up my miner through Red Scrips. It's a bit of a slog, yes, but it'll get me to a good place, where I'll be able to supply myself anything I need for ARM and BSM (until I need cloth or leather...I digress). I've also been making good amounts of Gil farming Adamantite Ore, but have had that 5% miss chance hit me more frequently than I'd like.
I've been saving red tokens for a couple weeks now, and yesterday was finally able to buy the 180 chest (which was a huge jump over the 130 blue scrip chest I was using to get by). Port back to Helix, wait for the next spawn of Adamantite, aaaaand...I'm still at only 95%. +30 Gathering over my old chest, and I'm still at 95%. It's a little frustrating, to say the least, when I was able to get 100% gathering unbuffed on at-level nodes while I was leveling up.
Is there a cap specific to unspoiled nodes that prevents a native gathering rate higher than 95% (I'm pretty sure there's something like that for Perception)? Is my only way to get 100% collection rate to spend 50GP every time?
Diminishing Returns in Gathering? A Miner Conundrum
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05-25-2016, 11:52 PMJpec07Diminishing Returns in Gathering? A Miner Conundrum
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05-25-2016, 11:57 PMStouterTaru
The cap is 95% for anything your level, and 1-star and higher still count as level 60, they just require more gathering to reach the cap.
1 level below you caps at 96%, and so on, leaving things 5 or more levels below you capping at 100%. -
05-26-2016, 12:07 AMJpec07Well I feel like a derpus now. Could have sworn I got to 100% at-level in ARR, but I guess I was mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by StouterTaru
I really should start doing mining favors and legendary/folklore nodes to take advantage of all this gear I'm getting. -
05-26-2016, 12:08 AMNekotee
By the way red script stuff is not mandatory
Ilevel 150
White stuff with one or 2 meld is enough
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And I second that
Back in ARR every star gathering were 95% cap
Only now with HW this cap has been remove -
05-26-2016, 12:50 AMNorthernLadMSP
I have the full red scrip set, including the main hand and the HQ crafted off hand and I'm still at a 95%. Luckily, I was able to meld enough GP that with the cheap Antelope Soup, gives me 660 GP so that I no longer ever miss.
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05-26-2016, 12:01 PMRoth_Trailfinder
I'd have to agree with what NorthernLad suggested. Get enough GP that with a cheap food you have at least 650 GP. That 5% gathering chance skill at 50 GP is a sanity-saver!
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05-27-2016, 08:59 PMpanderinAt this point if you aren't sitting pretty with some red script stuff I would be in a tizzy to get some. It will be almost assuredly needed to gather the new stuff in 3.3 I would be SO SURPRISED if it isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nekotee
Best to be overdone than half done and looking for an expensive food to round out your stats. -
05-28-2016, 07:25 AMCulfinrandirUnless they make the new universal DoL gear available with red scrips, in which case gearing up now would be folly. There's new main hands coming too, I imagine they'll be what requires the higher level token gathered items. I can't imagine the new universal gear being better than the current individual job gear. More likely it will be slightly lower but could be meld-able.Quote:
Originally Posted by panderin
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05-30-2016, 12:15 PMShadygrove
95%? Oh boo hoo. On some legendary nodes I get 88%. That's where running all BIS comes in. 703 GPs with cheap vendor food. SVII, KY II, +10% to HQ.
And they didn't remove the cap on the ARR nodes. They removed the cap on us. Stouter has it right. -
06-02-2016, 04:10 AMJpec07I get the rest of what you're saying, but is this part really necessary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadygrove
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06-04-2016, 10:57 AMMorzy
Such baby gatherers <_<.
Yush the 95% sucks. If you make enough n invest in 650 or 700 GP u can avoid that and guess what I didn't have that option in ARR -
06-04-2016, 09:16 PMRoth_TrailfinderNo, we did not. Welcome to HW!Quote:
Originally Posted by Morzy
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06-07-2016, 02:50 AMTango185You sound like the old man telling young whiper-snappers about how you didn't have buses to get to school but instead had to walk five miles, through the snow, barefoot, and uphill both ways everyday. HAHAHA!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Morzy
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06-07-2016, 02:55 AMStouterTaruYou whipper snappers have it good these days, back when I was a young gatherer we started out with 0 GP when changing from a DoW/DoM job, and your chocobo couldn't fly to gathering points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango185
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06-08-2016, 05:23 AMMariaNyan
"Cap" aka 85% for legendary nodes right now is 723/714, preferably 650GP. source (https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...akpoints_data/)
perception is hardcapped at 714 with 10%, while gathering is softcapped only. Since legendary nodes have a chance to reduce GP, 650GP right now is golden, whether with food or not up to you, i have it without food so i dont need to bother with it. -
06-09-2016, 11:56 PMFince
HQ rates on legendary nodes don't hard-cap at 10%. i regularly see 11%.
i understand the virtue of not raising gathering stat beyond that required to get 85% success rate but best not call that a "Cap" either. -
06-10-2016, 12:23 AMStouterTaru
Yeah, those "caps" aren't hard caps. I think what was meant is that at 10% HQ rate, your appraisals are capped on collectibles.
At 85% success rate and 650 GP, you can spend 600, get your 50+ GP bonus, and have enough GP to get up to 100%. But it's not a "cap" when you get a -200 GP bonus on one of the first two swings, and can use an extra Single Mind, leaving only enough GP for +5% gathering rate.