How much help do you think the new beast tribe will be in leveling a crafting class?

Read that in patch 3.3 Moogles will be the new beast tribe
Where you can use them to level your crafting classes from 50 to 60

I leveled my first crafting class to 50 by using ixal quests only

So hoping the moogles can help me level that class to 60! :D

We have not seen a crafting centric bst questline in HW yet so I would say it is 50/50 in the fact that I think we are due for one but ARR has 4 fighting and 1 crafting so I don't know that we can say for sure. The quest line is also going to be revolving around moogles rebuilding so that is what we had to do for the other bsts as well. It is so hard to say.

What we do know is we are getting new crafting and gathering sets so it would be a good time for them to implement something like the ixal tokens from ARR and they do love us to put in a time sink!

I don't think that mog will be scaled on ixali (which could give you almost 1 to 3 level per day)
But they should be a powerful alternative/addition to rowena and GC turn in

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Originally Posted by Arduno

Read that in patch 3.3 Moogles will be the new beast tribe
Where you can use them to level your crafting classes from 50 to 60

I leveled my first crafting class to 50 by using ixal quests only

So hoping the moogles can help me level that class to 60! :D

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Only one. I leveled all of my Crafters from 15-51 with Ixal alone.

I was pissed when ixal came out
Because it was right when I finished farming leves for days to be 50 all
I think that I was 50 on everything except Alc and arm which both needed 10 to 15 level each
Which was done in less than a week

If its anything similar to the Ixali then the powerleveling will be real. I'm just going to assume that they won't give crazy rates of exp like the Ixali.

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Originally Posted by Swaggins

If its anything similar to the Ixali then the powerleveling will be real. I'm just going to assume that they won't give crazy rates of exp like the Ixali.

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It'll be enough if it's custom recipes and ingredients.

I can't wait to see the awful buff we will get
50% CP
No cross no spec

Oh will we get some moogle glove like the ixali one ?
Or a hat ?
I'm waiting for this thing !

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Originally Posted by Nekotee

I can't wait to see the awful buff we will get
50% CP
No cross no spec

Oh will we get some moogle glove like the ixali one ?
Or a hat ?
I'm waiting for this thing !

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Wait for it, specialist only skills recipe incoming.

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Originally Posted by ChameleonMS

Wait for it, specialist only skills recipe incoming.

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Oh god, yeah I didn't think of that But SE will probably force us to use their stupid specialist skills in these moogle quests :(

No i don't think they will force us to use specialist skill
Since mog are design to be 50 to 60
And specialist don't come until 55 plus specialist is not a mandatory thing to do as Crafter

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Oh god, yeah I didn't think of that But SE will probably force us to use their stupid specialist skills in these moogle quests :(

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That's fine, I've already been using them. Whistle and nymeias are great in most rotations.

Anyway, I'm rather disappointed if they are crafting. I've had everything at 60 for an age and a half at this point.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

That's fine, I've already been using them. Whistle and nymeias are great in most rotations.

Anyway, I'm rather disappointed if they are crafting. I've had everything at 60 for an age and a half at this point.

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Why would you be disappointed if they are a crafting beast tribe (which they are, confirmed in the recent live letter), simply because you won't be getting exp? If the official live letter translation is anything to go by, then I'm actually glad I'll be able to do those quests at 60.

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Similar to the Ixal quests, these new quests will be crafting-focused quests. They will be quests that you can level from 50 to 60, and you’ll get the materials during the quests. If you’ve already reached level 60, you will be able to earn grade V materia.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3706279

Yeah i agree i don't mind having everything full already if it help to gather materia for the new crafting set !

Which also mean that high end recipe will require some high cap of stat

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Why would you be disappointed if they are a crafting beast tribe (which they are, confirmed in the recent live letter), simply because you won't be getting exp? If the official live letter translation is anything to go by, then I'm actually glad I'll be able to do those quests at 60.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3706279

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Missed that, but I also don't need materia anymore so it's just kinda eh for me.

I guess I'll make some more gil.

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Originally Posted by Nekotee

Yeah i agree i don't mind having everything full already if it help to gather materia for the new crafting set !

Which also mean that high end recipe will require some high cap of stat

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Don't they always?

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Missed that, but I also don't need materia anymore so it's just kinda eh for me.

I guess I'll make some more gil.

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You'll still have to meld the new 3.3 DoH set though, unless you're not planning to do any 4-star crafting in 3.4.

We can earn Grade V materia from doing the Moogle Quest!? Does that mean Grade V crafting materia?

If so, I'm really glad I could sell my grade V crafting materia for lots of gil before this was announced!

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Don't they always?

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True fact it's kind of silly what i said...
But i mean that will be god level of impossible high at first look
Then when you get into it it's not that even hard (like always)

What i wonder is... will they add some 3* craft that will help us reach new cap then we will be able to craft more 4* to enhance our stat
(Like they did back at 50 with the 3* off hand that allow us to do the 4*)

Or if they will force us to take the ugly red script stuff to do the crafted stuff T.T

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

You'll still have to meld the new 3.3 DoH set though, unless you're not planning to do any 4-star crafting in 3.4.

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Are we sure they aren't just the same as the specific sets, just with the benefit of being omni?

I know they said 'item level increase'...but the omni artisan set in 2.0 was technically an item level increase as well and they were barely any better than the specific sets when melded.

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Originally Posted by FinaSel

We can earn Grade V materia from doing the Moogle Quest!? Does that mean Grade V crafting materia?

If so, I'm really glad I could sell my grade V crafting materia for lots of gil before this was announced!

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lol. I've still never even seen one. Goblin lottery is lame.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Are we sure they aren't just the same as the specific sets, just with the benefit of being omni?

I know they said 'item level increase'...but the omni artisan set in 2.0 was technically an item level increase as well and they were barely any better than the specific sets when melded.

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From the Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXX Digest, posted yesterday:

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There are two types of equipment, one which can be crafted and shared across all classes, and another which can be exchanged with red scrips and are class-specific. The item level for the red scrips version is set higher; however, players may utilize advanced materia melding on the crafted pieces, which can prove advantageous in the long run. In Patch 3.3, we'll introduce every piece of equipment for the crafted version, but for red scrips version, the secondary tool, belt, and accessories will be added later in Patch 3.4.

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In order for the new the crafted set to even be competitive with the new class-specific red scrips sets (which will obviously be >i180), never mind "advantageous", it will need to be higher item level than our existing sets.

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Originally Posted by Ibi

From the Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXX Digest, posted yesterday:



In order for the new the crafted set to even be competitive with the new class-specific red scrips sets (which will obviously be >i180), never mind "advantageous", it will need to be higher item level than our existing sets.

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Looks like its going to be ilvl 170 from the patch notes -> Ironworks Apron of Crafting Body Item Level: 170 / Equipment Level: 60
And the traded version will be ilvl170.

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Originally Posted by MysteryNotes

Looks like its going to be ilvl 170 from the patch notes -> Ironworks Apron of Crafting Body Item Level: 170 / Equipment Level: 60
And the traded version will be ilvl170.

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The new endgame crafter gear is ilvl 195 (for tools) and ilvl 190 (for the rest).
The new trade-in gear is ilvl 200.

The ilvl 170 gear is just the "omni" equivalent to the existing ilvl 170 crafted gear.

I guess the names in the english patch notes are messed up. Ilvl 170 should be "carbonweave" and ilvl 190 should be "ironworks".

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Originally Posted by Seyb

The new endgame crafter gear is ilvl 195 (for tools) and ilvl 190 (for the rest).
The new trade-in gear is ilvl 200.

The ilvl 170 gear is just the "omni" equivalent to the existing ilvl 170 crafted gear.

I guess the names in the english patch notes are messed up. Ilvl 170 should be "carbonweave" and ilvl 190 should be "ironworks".

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Made a mistake , meant to say that the traded items were 190 but i guess thats wrong too?

*edit*
Just saw the ones at the bottom.
So we'll have 2 craftable sets this round?
Ironworks of Crafting and Carbonweave of Crafting? hmm.

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Originally Posted by MysteryNotes

So we'll have 2 craftable sets this round?
Ironworks of Crafting and Carbonweave of Crafting? hmm.

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Yes, it seems so. Don't really know why they added omni ilvl170 gear, but that should spread the competition a bit (or maybe they are specialist locked anyway).
They will probably be a lot more avalaible than the ilvl190 gear (thus cheaper).

I find it interesting that the crafted tools are ilvl 195 and the trade-in only 200. I wonder what the stat differences are.

In the end, I'm quite disappointed by the amount of EXP given by these quests. Granted it's only the beginning, but I don't see them giving a lot more as we increase ranks.
I mean... The EXP per quests in itself is fine, but only 3 quests per day makes it roughly the same as a starred daily turn in for your Grand Company... but only on one class.

Obviously, I won't spit on free EXP, but with all the catch up gear we got, I was expecting a bit more more from the leveling process side of things.

I'd guess they added omnicraft i170 gear so the Favors would not be so discouraging to people.

I think they're quite helpful for the amount of exp they give vs the amount of effort/time required. I'm currently leveling weaver with them, I was only a bit in to 56 on patch day and now I'm going to hit level 58 tomorrow using no exp besides dailies, at level 57 with rank 3 rep, the three dailies altogether yield roughly 840k exp not counting the exp you gain from crafting the actual quest items. Plus there is also the fact that when you hit a new rep milestone you get three extra bonus dailies, so I don't think it will take long to get weaver to 60. With the vendor having crafting gear you can just buy will allow you to get gear as well when you reach the appropriate levels.

I love the rep milestones.

I like the new moogles quests. While they are a little weaker in terms of experience than ixali, they are also a great deal easier so far. Also while nice I think we can all agree the ixali quests experience levels were way over tuned. They gave ludicrous amounts of experience.