will be just change in color for Egi. One my Fc mates think this how the system is going be. I find this be waste of Devs talents if so. I love pets and Jobs that use them as you see i post alot ideal on pet jobs.
What will the glamour Egi look like
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05-22-2016, 09:33 AMSavagelfWhat will the glamour Egi look like
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05-22-2016, 09:46 AMRufalus
It's certainly going to be more than color swaps. The system they are planning is said to be quite resource intensive, causing it to take a long time to be implemented. So I would expect to see different 3D models and animations.
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05-22-2016, 09:47 AMgreyfurr
They way I understand it, if and when it happens, it will be more along the lines of if you are tired of Garuda you can glamour, say, Carbuncle over her.
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05-22-2016, 09:58 AMSavagelf
hmm, I see i loved to see the summoner pets get stronger and they use the form for games Iges have been in. In way Ige would be like evolve but not like pokemon but more like they become more like they primal selves. and Your control over them in grown stronger.
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05-22-2016, 10:50 AMmyahele
Didn't they say that they'll probably release carbuncles for the 1st set of egi glamour?
If so, it makes sense since topaz/emerald have the same moves (except of the enkindle) as their egi counter parts. They'll need to design animation for a ruby carbuncle if anything -
05-22-2016, 10:53 AMIromi
I'd rather have more pets like we were told :/ glamour has no substance and sounds very boring.
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05-22-2016, 10:54 AMalimdia
We'll likely get emerald, topaz and ruby carbuncles on summoner, replacing garuda, titan and ifrit, not sure if obsidian carbuncle will remain alphinaud's exclusive or we will also get it, work wise they only have to design animations for ruby, which is already partially done as alphinaud also has ruby carbuncle.
Other than that they said one egi per patch for the remaining primals.
It's too hard to maintain balance of an endless number of new egi skills, so new egis with the same skills is the best route to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iromi
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05-22-2016, 11:37 AMNatashioIn other words... Let's continue with the bland, but just put new make-up over it.Quote:
It's too hard to maintain balance of an endless number of new egi skills, so new egis with the same skills is the best route to go.
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05-22-2016, 12:39 PMIndictionYou got the same amount of skills as eveeeeeeeeerybody else, if not flashier :l you're getting something that's job exclusive to you and it doesn't seem any of the summoners are happy ffs :l As a scholar, I'd kill and be thankful for some faerie glamoursQuote:
Originally Posted by Natashio
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05-22-2016, 12:46 PMmadolyn
the egi being job exclusive isn't really a good argument because it is really just a dumbed down version of what summoner could be... not to mention the egi don't feel epic or even look good in any way. Ideally summoner should have a multitude of summon choices but instead we get restricted to three bare bones floating blobs. Even carbuncle looks better than an egi.
I am thankful for some kind of glamour system being implemented but I still don't get why they didn't just redo the models as well. And what ever happened to the whole "free-roaming primal that free companies can capture and summon" thing that was talked about a loooooooong time ago? -
05-22-2016, 12:47 PMRethDaronXIV isn't like XI. XIV is more like WoW where every class has to have around the same amount of skills and gameplay elements, there's nothing really unique that sets them apart (like the BLU system of equipping skills/PUP changing Automaton attachments in XI). Not sure why we should expect different this far in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natashio
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05-22-2016, 01:11 PMalimdiaSummoner already has more skills than any other class because of pet skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natashio
Look at it this way, the same team who would have to design unique skills and animation for every single new primal that would become an egi is the same team in charge of new skills for existing jobs and new jobs, creating new skills for all 3 carbuncles, ramuh, shiva, levi, moogle, bis, ravana, thor, seph [insert all future primals until XIV closes] is a much higher workload than making new classes, and all that work just for one class, for summoner, that already has their own new skills being added with expansions?
Just for the sake of keeping things balanced between the classes, new egis and new animations with the same 4 skill functions per type of egi is pretty good. -
05-22-2016, 02:15 PMArikDimasBit curious as to where that bit was mentioned, especially since it seems to go against the established lore we know about primals.Quote:
Originally Posted by madolyn
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05-22-2016, 02:21 PMMagiusNecros
They gave up on the free roam and went with the hunt system instead. And they worked the lore and basic main scenario of WoL hunting Summon Beasts AKA Primals because they suck up Aether like a vacuum to live and doing that is bad for the huge rock goddess.
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05-22-2016, 03:02 PMCuteWhisperThis, I'd love to have some fairy glamours too! I know it was never mentionnd that SCH would get more but ffs, we only have 2 choices!Quote:
Originally Posted by Indiction
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05-22-2016, 05:44 PMNalien
I'm hoping they make use of the offhand slot for Summoner (and Scholar), then change Summon, Summon II, and Summon III to require an item in the offhand slot, sort of like how Shield Bash requires Paladin to have a Shield equipped.
Then, whatever item you have equipped in that offhand slot determines what you summon... So you equip the item that corresponds to Carbuncle, you'll summon Carbuncle... Equip the item that corresponds to Ifrit, you summon Ifrit-Egi, meaning you can have a tank or mage version of him... Would be a change to Arcanist, rather than Summoner, meaning it translates to Scholar as well for a healing Carbuncle, which is fine by me... Wouldn't mind more fairy options as well, which should actually be much simpler to do than new Egi, given how much more basic fairy animations are...
I don't expect that kind of quality from whatever SE has planned for Egi-Glamours though... I'ma be mighty disappointed... Probably just going to talk to a NPC to switch out what we summon and they'll cripple future Egi by only letting us swap say Garuda for Ramuh... -
05-22-2016, 07:42 PMSavagelf
I fearful for future Egi as well
also Ramur is lightning not wind they should allow him to be partof future Egi
my first mmo with pets was wow vanilla there also bug for pet there
but people cry on forum the pets where to powerful or to strong.
the big cats where able find rogue and stuff attack them when they sleath it remind me Drizzt panther that he had help him find Crystal tower in S.A salvotor book -
05-22-2016, 08:45 PMmadolynQuote:
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it was when 1.0 was still active and all we had for 2.0 was screen shots and roadmap / blog posts and plans. would have to do a lot of digging to find it. -
05-23-2016, 12:47 AMbass9020This is what I fear. If its certain skins for the 3 roles then the whole system is a wasted resource. The system should hopefully allow us to use ANY primal egi for any role. I don't personally like Titan but lets say they use Shiva as another tank egi, that would be pretty lame because I would never be able to use her. (Just as an example)Quote:
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Being able to choose freely which one we want is hopefully what they are planning. WE CAN HOPE! -
05-23-2016, 02:29 PMCuteWhisperI really hope Scholar get to glamour the fairies as well. I would love an healing carbuncle but at this point I don't thnk Scholars will get anything at all. If that happens, I am retiring my book once again. It would be really lame to be stuck with two fairies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalien
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05-23-2016, 05:53 PMKazrahTo be fair, it's actually one fairy, just with two different forms.Quote:
Originally Posted by CuteWhisper
What's funny is that summoners get pet glamours JUST FOR SUMMONERS AND NO ONE ELSE and still act like spoiled brats, while scholars are planned to get nothing even though there's more reason for them to get a third fairy as a damage/questing pet.
Mechanically speaking, there's no need for summoners to have more egis. What could they POSSIBLY do that would make them not just unique, but practical in multiple settings? An AoE pet won't happen since summoners not only have the best AoE damage in the game, but it'd just be easier to buff the baseline AoE skills of the other egis. No need for a crowd control egi since crowd control is only ever used on very few occassions, and even then, there are so many mobs in late game that are immune to CC skills such as Sleep that there would be no point for such a pet to exist. A debuffing egi may seem like a possibility until you realize that making it powerful enough to be of any use would risk making the two damage egis pointless, especially given the lack of summoners making use of both of the current damage egis rather than the more common playstyle of swearing by only one of them.
Summoners are getting egi glamours because devs know that this is the best way of giving new egis when crunching out ways making more actual summoner pets is a mechanically fruitless endeavor. Summoners will get egi glamours which, especially after going through this thread, is far more than what some of these crybaby summoners deserve. -
05-23-2016, 06:02 PMBlackcanaryThat just sounds stupid no offence. If the devs wanted to do it they would be able to do it and make it work. They just sound like they become lazy they made a be mistake with summoner and the pets and they know we know. And they just can't be assed to fix the job and the pets. They are more focused on giving us more flying mounts or turning normal mounts than giving us what we been asking since the ARR first came out new and improved Egi. Or just more Egi's in general and blance the attacks so it's not just Garuda being use. But this is to much work for them do we will never get it. *sigh*Quote:
Originally Posted by alimdia