Can we stop forming mobs and hunting people before all the facts are known.

Today there was a video posted on reddit of a supposed "Speedhacker" in Feast who covers a large distance in an instant.

The thing is, anyone that looked for more than 15s could easily see that the bard used blast shot to knock back the person. Knockbacks combined with the server latency creates really strange looking movements that other people see.

So instead of crucifying people can we all just chill and take the time to actually analyze things. I'm starting to see this mob mentality leaking onto these forums and elsewhere and would rather the PvP community not gut itself from the inside. No this "blast shot" ordeal isn't what's going on in every situation I've seen but the reaction to it was disgusting

This player is better than me?

Speed hack.

Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here... Maybe, if speedhacking and match throwing weren't running so rampant, and SE actually banned people... Then maybe, just maybe, people wouldn't be so sick of seeing it that they report anything suspicious.

You guys get way to bent out of shape over these supposed "Witch hunts".

Players can't ban other players. It's the job of the GM's to investigate our reports and determine if someone is hacking.

Accusing someone of something doesn't make them guilty, it also doesn't make them innocent.

People are gonna report people for hacking, even when they aren't hacking, especially in competitive online games. This is nothing new. If you feel like a player should feel bad because a couple of random players on reddit said they were speed hacking then that's a bigger problem.

If the player in question knows they don't hack, they have nothing to worry about from a GM investigation, and with so many players hacking a lot of people do need to be investigated.

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Originally Posted by Cynric

You guys get way to bent out of shape over these supposed "Witch hunts".

Players can't ban other players. It's the job of the GM's to investigate our reports and determine if someone is hacking.

Accusing someone of something doesn't make them guilty, it also doesn't make them innocent.

People are gonna report people for hacking, even when they aren't hacking, especially in competitive online games. This is nothing new. If you feel like a player should feel bad because a couple of random players on reddit said they were speed hacking then that's a bigger problem.

If the player in question knows they don't hack, they have nothing to worry about from a GM investigation, and with so many players hacking a lot of people do need to be investigated.

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So basically let people be cancerous within the community and it will grow and be healthy. Alright then that doesn't make any sense thanks for your input. It's not just a small minority jumping people it's a pretty significant portion

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Originally Posted by Exira

So basically let people be cancerous within the community and it will grow and be healthy. Alright then that doesn't make any sense thanks for your input. It's not just a small minority jumping people it's a pretty significant portion

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Welcome to PvP, enjoy your stay and be mindful of the salt avalanches.

Agreed. Good players are being accused of hacking just for being good, mixed with the fact that the accusers simply don't understand what they're looking at when provided "evidence".

I feel like more often than not people are correct about the accusations. I didn't see the "blast shot" one but it might be an anomaly from someone who doesn't know what to look for. One bad call doesn't mean people should stop being aware.

Plus, we really only see the most obvious ones. Most people would turn it up to 5% or 10% extra to get the edge and you'd never know.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Plus, we really only see the most obvious ones. Most people would turn it up to 5% or 10% extra to get the edge and you'd never know.

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How do you even know all that? <.<

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Originally Posted by BunnyChain

How do you even know all that? <.<

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It's common sense >.>

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Originally Posted by Exira

Today there was a video posted on reddit of a supposed "Speedhacker" in Feast who covers a large distance in an instant.

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There's the problem. Reddit is probably worse than here with the amount of toxicity due to the stronger anonymity of posters relative to the OF.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

There's the problem. Reddit is probably worse than here with the amount of toxicity due to the stronger anonymity of posters relative to the OF.

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Yea except I could pick out 5-6 people that use the same account name on both doing the said posting. Their posting on here is just more PG

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Originally Posted by Exira

So basically let people be cancerous within the community and it will grow and be healthy. Alright then that doesn't make any sense thanks for your input. It's not just a small minority jumping people it's a pretty significant portion

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You can't change people. It's been like this forever and is a problem with the English speaking audience on multiple games. Our community will always be toxic, especially in PvP.

Now our choices are to either be hurt by it or not. Reddit isn't even policed by our moderators so what do you hope to accomplish with this? There's literally zero we can do about this unless said harassment happens in the game.

Reporting someone for suspected hacking or illicit activities is not really a legitimate problem. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here, but SE does not slap people with bans and suspensions just because someone cried in the playground. They simply open an investigation to determine the viability of the complaint. If the person is found guilty, then they get the ban hammer. If they haven't done anything wrong, however, then they have nothing to fear.

Speed hacking, on the other hand, is a legitimate problem. Face target exploits using third party software is also a legitimate problem. These are serious threats to the game mode, and need to be addressed. That means that they need to be reported. The simple fact is that if you see someone who you suspect is using such methods to gain an unfair advantage, it is your responsibility to report them. SE has actually requested that we do so in certain cases, because it violates their terms of service and harms the game mode. I'm not saying that some people don't take it a bit too far. It's the internet; so, that kind of lynching is to be expected (if not also widely ignored), but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be reporting something they see as suspicious. It's not like we can open our own independent investigations and build a case before submitting a grief report. All we can do is leave it to the moderators to handle it.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

It's common sense >.>

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Obvi a speedhacker <.<