Female Sundrop Dance

Why is the female sundrop dance so modest? The male version is very involved, gets the legs moving and everything. The female version barely moves at all, no leg movement, doesn't seem to be any resemblance to the male intensity. Please change the female version to be more intense like the male.

Many people agree with you, but I highly doubt things will change. Here's some fun reading for you!

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Sundrop-Dance

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ed-for-Females

This basically got discussed to death a few months back. The long and short of it is that it's based on the haka, a real life dance from New Zealand with somewhat differing versions for each gender. It most likely isn't going to be changed.

Seems like the fair solution would be to make both versions of the dance available and let the player pick which to use. ...my character looks completely wrong using the female version and would look perfectly right using the male version.

TL;DR: skirts, dresses, hairstyles, and now dances. Oh and forgot the bunny ears/sick pumps/bustiers.

If you want male Sundrop Dance, just go Fantasia to males. We don't even get bunny ears for males so no same sundrop dance for you.

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Originally Posted by Nyu_Maimhov

TL;DR: skirts, dresses, hairstyles, and now dances.

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TL;DR for a 4 sentence post?

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Seems like the fair solution would be to make both versions of the dance available and let the player pick which to use. ...my character looks completely wrong using the female version and would look perfectly right using the male version.

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Gender disparities like these don't seem to be high on SE's list of priorities. For example, your hairstyle is decidedly gender neutral but males don't have it as an option. Don't worry, female characters are still light years ahead overall with all their exclusive glamours. You get one derpy dance. We get a metric butt-ton of female + unisex glamour options and only a handful of male only ones.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

For example, your hairstyle is decidedly gender neutral but males don't have it as an option.

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I want long curley "female" (lol, I have curley long hair) hair for my male. Males have so many 'joke' hairstyles and less then females.

Yep...

I recently swapped from male Lala to female Roe in game, so - yeah, I have some familiarity in the glamour differences between the two. The glamour game on female characters is worlds different than male. But then there's the dance. Some of these gender differences are absolutely ridiculous (bunny ears gender locked? SERIOUSLY?) and while I can respect the desire to create an accurate representation of a real world counterpart, limiting player options is a terrible idea. I can rearrange 99% of my HUD in game but can't have a choice between versions of a dance on my gender ambiguous Roegadyn.

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Originally Posted by aesteval

on my gender ambiguous Roegadyn.

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I loled at this XD

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Originally Posted by AriaEnia

I loled at this XD

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Yeah... there's really not any such thing, lol. That's like saying 'gender ambiguous Au Ra'.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

TL;DR for a 4 sentence post?

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Some people are just that lazy. :)

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Yeah... there's really not any such thing, lol. That's like saying 'gender ambiguous Au Ra'.

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I identify as an attack helicopter.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

The long and short of it is that it's based on the haka, a real life dance from New Zealand with somewhat differing versions for each gender. It most likely isn't going to be changed.

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Amazing that they thought about this... when it comes to glamour and fluff, they go all out on it. :b

Personally I like it how it is, plus having variety.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Yeah... there's really not any such thing, lol. That's like saying 'gender ambiguous Au Ra'.

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I've just seen Female Elezen that really looks like male with low bust size and short hair. Looks more handsome than our current male Elezen :eek:

I don't mind that the female dance is different. I only wish it wasn't so "cutesy". When you look at the Haka, the female dance might be more subdued, but it gives an impression of haughtiness, and is, in its own way, just as agressive as the male version. The female Sundrop however is just cutesy and looks like "aww look at her trying to be all tough like her big brother" which is not at all the same. The male Sundrop moves are, besides being bigger, clean and decisive and powerful. The female Sundrop moves are not, especially the latter part where she moves both arms together. The arms are wobbly and the elbows go in towards the body and as a result it just doesn't look powerful at all.

Who cares really? There are better things to be bothered by/worried about.

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Originally Posted by Eul

If you want male Sundrop Dance, just go Fantasia to males. We don't even get bunny ears for males so no same sundrop dance for you.

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Well played, sir... well played. On the other hand I like the female version, and if you really want the male version, just do what this guy suggests. It works 100% ;)

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

This basically got discussed to death a few months back. The long and short of it is that it's based on the haka, a real life dance from New Zealand with somewhat differing versions for each gender. It most likely isn't going to be changed.

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not just new zealand alot of countries do the haka or somethin very similar tonga/fiji/samoa places like that

This again. Good god get over it.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Yeah... there's really not any such thing, lol. That's like saying 'gender ambiguous Au Ra'.

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http://i.imgur.com/DuJqO2k.jpg
Ahuehuehue

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Originally Posted by AnaviAnael

I identify as an attack helicopter.

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Hey when I was about 5 I wanted to be a helicopter when I grew up... not a helicopter pilot but a helicopter - in particular a Chinook I think...
I was an odd child...

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Originally Posted by ChandraNoctis

Hey when I was about 5 I wanted to be a helicopter when I grew up... not a helicopter pilot but a helicopter - in particular a Chinook I think...
I was an odd child...

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oh my god. imagine meeting you here my love <3

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Originally Posted by ChandraNoctis

Hey when I was about 5 I wanted to be a helicopter when I grew up... not a helicopter pilot but a helicopter - in particular a Chinook I think...
I was an odd child...

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I want to be a Hind D, like in Metal Gear Solid.

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Originally Posted by Nyu_Maimhov

TL;DR: skirts, dresses, hairstyles, and now dances. Oh and forgot the bunny ears/sick pumps/bustiers.

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Yes, let's blur the genders and do away with all differences. Uniformity for the Win!

Why in hell can't people celebrate the diversity and difference of gender instead of whining about it being unfair that one gender has something the other lacks. What's next? demanding that female players gain a package and male characters gain breasts?

Celebrate the differences, and stick with the race and gender you prefer. The reason you prefer it is because of the differences.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Yes, let's blur the genders and do away with all differences. Uniformity for the Win!

Why in hell can't people celebrate the diversity and difference of gender instead of whining about it being unfair that one gender has something the other lacks. What's next? demanding that female players gain a package and male characters gain breasts?

Celebrate the differences, and stick with the race and gender you prefer. The reason you prefer it is because of the differences.

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I often totally dissagree with you, pretty much opposites, but you are totally right here.

Variety is the spice of life and the like.

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Originally Posted by Krissey

oh my god. imagine meeting you here my love <3

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Hey - what's a nice lala like you doing in a place like this ;)

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom

I often totally dissagree with you, pretty much opposites, but you are totally right here.

Variety is the spice of life and the like.

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If we didn't disagree on some things, it would be boring. :)

Think about it this way, you and I have disagreed and debated many different issues, and despite knowing that we are unlikely to change each others mind. But, we still respond to each other. Maybe we just enjoy it? ;)

I have to say that I don't always have the time in my evenings to play much right now, but I can post to the forums while at work or away from my console. Debating things with yourself and others here helps me feel that I am still a part of Eorzea and the community, even when I can't play much. So, thank you for disagreeing (and on occasion, agreeing) with me, I appreciate the time you put into the discussions, and enjoy having to think when replying.

One more thing. The strength with which you argue your points, the enthusiasm you show for the game and the time you put into the discussions all go to the commitment you show to the game. I'd much rather spend time with someone as committed to Eorzea as you are than with 10 people who are all fluff and excitement and stick around for 3 months.

p.s. feel free to remind me of this the next time I get all vitriolic in a discussion...

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Originally Posted by ChandraNoctis

Hey - what's a nice lala like you doing in a place like this ;)

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Just wandering around, seeing the sites ;D You look lovely with those flower earrings. I got my Carpenter to 50 last night after like 6 hours of farming mahogany and such.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Yes, let's blur the genders and do away with all differences. Uniformity for the Win!

Why in hell can't people celebrate the diversity and difference of gender instead of whining about it being unfair that one gender has something the other lacks. What's next? demanding that female players gain a package and male characters gain breasts?

Celebrate the differences, and stick with the race and gender you prefer. The reason you prefer it is because of the differences.

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Stop oppressing me with your gender-norm narrative. It's a social construct. Our true selves look like pudding. We should all play pudding.

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/3/3/334...fee9050e95.jpg

This is our true form! Won't I like cute in all those male and/or female glamours? :D

I bet that female sundrop looks pretty awful on fem roe.. lol :)

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Originally Posted by Blacksail

I bet that female sundrop looks pretty awful on fem roe.. lol :)

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Looks awful on all female races, but SE is following the real life version and I can accept that.

I always use the skip option for the cutscene of doing sundrop dance in vanu quests because it looks so very lame on my character, lol

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Originally Posted by Maero

I always use the skip option for the cutscene of doing sundrop dance in vanu quests because it looks so very lame on my character, lol

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To be fair, I skip them too and my character is a dude. I can only watch that goofy dance so many times.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Yes, let's blur the genders and do away with all differences. Uniformity for the Win!

Why in hell can't people celebrate the diversity and difference of gender instead of whining about it being unfair that one gender has something the other lacks. What's next? demanding that female players gain a package and male characters gain breasts?

Celebrate the differences, and stick with the race and gender you prefer. The reason you prefer it is because of the differences.

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inb4 "I'm not paying this for female's bunny ears"

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Originally Posted by ChandraNoctis

Hey when I was about 5 I wanted to be a helicopter when I grew up... not a helicopter pilot but a helicopter - in particular a Chinook I think...
I was an odd child...

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I remember when I was little, I broke my dad's Apache attack helicopter model that he built for days. He said it was okay, he could build another one, but I knew he was totally sad that it was broken. I miss my dad.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Why in hell can't people celebrate the diversity and difference of gender instead of whining about it being unfair that one gender has something the other lacks. What's next? demanding that female players gain a package and male characters gain breasts?

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http://i.imgur.com/YEjPkvH.png

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Originally Posted by Laerune

Looks awful on all female races, but SE is following the real life version and I can accept that.

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Idk I'm pretty fine with how it is on my fem Lala

I think the reason for the dance to be bad for the female is because of gender issue the female has to bend their legs it will make them look weird and some player will find it offensive to female

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

What's next? demanding that female players gain a package and male characters gain breasts?

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Our male characters don't even really have packages, though. xD