Dalamud's effects on Dravania

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03-14-2016, 10:28 AM
Zohar_Lahar

Dalamud's effects on Dravania

While it wasn't as drastically affected as greater Eorzea, the Calamity left some marks in Dravania:

-Parts of abandoned Sharlayan's infrastructure was apparently damaged because of the Calamity (not Alexander). Idyllshire is still cleaning up the Collecter's Quarter.

-One of Bahmut's neurolinks fell into the Aery. No wonder Nidhogg woke up so soon after Ferndale.

-Evidence of impact events in the Forelands and Churning Mists.

Anyone think that glowing light underneath the Churning Mists might be a piece of Dalamud too?
03-14-2016, 11:28 AM
Frederick22

what impacts on forelands and churing mists? I did not see anything there that shows that was dalamud or bahamut, could have happened long before the calamity.
03-14-2016, 12:14 PM
Kaiser-Ace

I don't believe any Allagan artifact in The Churning Mists or Sea of Cloud's would be related to Dalamuld as Dalamuld's Altitude was only a few thousand feet when Bahamut was unleased. But The Mists and Sea of clouds seem to be tens of thousands of feet up since only ways up there are flight or a very precarious path way in The Churning Mist's case.

I still Say That Nuro Link was ON Nidhogg (Heck it might have been on Ratatoskr or Hraysvelgr and Nidhogg helped remove it) but that was an unmistakable Allagan Nerolink Collar not a Dalamuld fragment. And a fun fact about explosions, they're subject to gravity too. If it would have blasted fragments that far and that high the explosion would have reduced Cartenoue, Bahamut, and everything else in the vacenity to atoms. (Or Aether in this case)
03-14-2016, 12:45 PM
Frederick22

I still dont believe that the neurolink on Nidhogg's lair is part of dalamud. Even what SE said, I think is just a cover up.
03-14-2016, 02:27 PM
PArcher

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

Anyone think that glowing light underneath the Churning Mists might be a piece of Dalamud too?

These lights?

http://i.imgur.com/p56CoZ4.jpg

That's just Void Ark.
03-15-2016, 05:07 PM
ruskie

Didn't someone mention that there actually are bits of dalamud in Aery?
03-16-2016, 01:57 AM
FJerome

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

what impacts on forelands and churing mists? I did not see anything there that shows that was dalamud or bahamut, could have happened long before the calamity.

There's craters all over the Hissing Wastes in the Forelands, I assumed those were Dalamud's fault.
03-16-2016, 02:40 AM
Kaiser-Ace

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Originally Posted by ruskie

Didn't someone mention that there actually are bits of dalamud in Aery?

Fern said the Allagan tech in Aery was a Dalamuld fragment. Which call BS on because that was an Allagan Nerolink.

An Allagan Nero Link doesn't just fall from Dalamuld with no other Dalamuld fragments.
03-16-2016, 03:14 AM
Frederick22

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Originally Posted by FJerome

There's craters all over the Hissing Wastes in the Forelands, I assumed those were Dalamud's fault.

You right but, there are always pieces of dalamud or corrupt cristal, and there is anothing. Or thats how I assue it should be based on ARR?
03-16-2016, 08:32 AM
finiteHP

Unless I'm remembering the quote wrong, there isn't anything saying that it couldn't be a Dalamud remnant that Nidhogg brought to the Aery as a reminder of why the spoken races must be killed off (not that he needs anything to fuel his hatred). From Dalamud doesn't have to mean it crashed there from the explosion.
03-16-2016, 11:30 AM
Kaiser-Ace

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Originally Posted by finiteHP

Unless I'm remembering the quote wrong, there isn't anything saying that it couldn't be a Dalamud remnant that Nidhogg brought to the Aery as a reminder of why the spoken races must be killed off (not that he needs anything to fuel his hatred). From Dalamud doesn't have to mean it crashed there from the explosion.

That's reaching for justification imo. Dragons are Immortal with long memories so to Nidhogg, Ratatoskr's death is still a very recent occurrence. He wouldn't need a "reminder" considering his memory, blood lust, and the fact he just litterally declared war on his Brother Hraysvelgr and Hraysvelgr's Brood for seeking peace with the Ishguardians.
03-16-2016, 12:42 PM
Rocl

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

You right but, there are always pieces of dalamud or corrupt cristal, and there is anothing. Or thats how I assue it should be based on ARR?

Ah, yes and no? I believe both the Nail and Boulder Downs are canonically referred to as Dalamud impact sites but they don't have the standard "corrupted crystal" bit around them (and to a point, neither does Fallgourd Float). Now it could be we don't get close enough to the Nail and Boulder Downs' peculiar dark matter is supposed to be their corrupted crystal but it isn't a 1:1 thing imo

Singing Shards, Castrum Occidens, Salt Strand, the unnamed Shroud formation seen from Amdapor/South Shroud, Burning Wall all do though; and Fallgourd Float does once the tracking in our aether VCR calibrates or whatever at the beginning of Dalamud's Shadow.
03-16-2016, 12:48 PM
Frederick22

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Originally Posted by Rocl

Ah, yes and no? I believe both the Nail and Boulder Downs are canonically referred to as Dalamud impact sites but they don't have the standard "corrupted crystal" bit around them (and to a point, neither does Fallgourd Float). Now it could be we don't get close enough to the Nail and Boulder Downs' peculiar dark matter is supposed to be their corrupted crystal but it isn't a 1:1 thing imo

Singing Shards, Castrum Occidens, Salt Strand, the unnamed Shroud formation seen from Amdapor/South Shroud, Burning Wall all do though; and Fallgourd Float does once the tracking in our aether VCR calibrates or whatever at the beginning of Dalamud's Shadow.

anyway, based on what we saw, there not proof, favour or against, That there were collisions on dravania or churing mists.

PD: rember I said pieces of Dalamuh ( allagan stuff ) or corrupted cristals. Non of those we see on Dravania.
03-16-2016, 02:30 PM
finiteHP

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

That's reaching for justification imo. Dragons are Immortal with long memories so to Nidhogg, Ratatoskr's death is still a very recent occurrence. He wouldn't need a "reminder" considering his memory, blood lust, and the fact he just litterally declared war on his Brother Hraysvelgr and Hraysvelgr's Brood for seeking peace with the Ishguardians.

I was thinking more of a reminder to his brood than to himself. Many in his brood would probably be a lot younger than the fall of the Allagan Empire. His hatred would be enough to force them to fight the war, but a 'see! The squishy races have always sought to do us harm' would help to fan their own hatred even above the actions of Ishgard. You are right that it is a reach though. But the way I see it, there are three possibilities from what Ferne said. The neuro link got there directly from Dalamud exploding, it was brought there purposely after the fact, or Ferne is lying to us. I say lying instead of misleading because all the instances I can remember where he didn't want to, or wasn't allowed to, give us the story behind something, he phrased the answer as a 'we aren't ready to tell you about that'. I remember reading this one as a 'yeah, we're probably not going to talk about it ingame, so I can tell you it's from Dalamud.' I'd like to reread Ferne's quote to see if I still get that feeling from it. Can I get a reminder as to where it was said?
03-16-2016, 11:23 PM
Kaiser-Ace

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Originally Posted by finiteHP

I remember reading this one as a 'yeah, we're probably not going to talk about it ingame, so I can tell you it's from Dalamud.' I'd like to reread Ferne's quote to see if I still get that feeling from it. Can I get a reminder as to where it was said?

As I recall, it was the 3.1 live letter. The transcript should be available on the developer's forum.