diurnal sect or nocturnal sect which do you like better

just curious what other ast players like

Noct! I live in Noct unless a SCH is present in full party formations

Diurnal is the superior Sect by far for most situations.

With that being said I prefer to play in Nocturnal since it tends to allow the AST to get around derpy players in random DFs.

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Originally Posted by Laurima

Noct! I live in Noct unless a SCH is present in full party formations

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i use diurnal because i dont understand how nocturnal works. when i give to someone a second later it is gone why

I prefer Diurnal; the regen feels like it covers the scenarios better. The barriers just don't have the same feeling as SCH's, although I can recall micromanaging Eos to heal almost immediately after they're put up.

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Originally Posted by KoroushSensei

i use diurnal because i dont understand how nocturnal works. when i give to someone a second later it is gone why

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Probably because they took damage. Nocturnal sect works much like Scholars' Galvanize.

Diurnal for me. My main is SCH so if I want to shield I'll just that. I'll play Noct if I have to though.

I use noct during trash pulls and diurnal for bosses. When paired with a sch I'll be on diurnal, when with a whm it depends, if it's a healing heavy fight I'll stay on diurnal after nocting the party pre-pull, if not I stay noct throughout. I used to prefer diurnal full stop. But I learned a lot and now maining ast, I've come to combine both sects as I see fit. I don't prefer one to the other anymore. I bery comfy with both ^_^

I usually prefer noct for trash since it can heavily negate a lot of damage on the tank, combined with SS and help surviving in most cases.

During bosses I -usually- go for Diurnal since sometimes the damage isn't in a wide area and overall it helps me to keep up everyone more than a rough shield.

But overall, I do prefer noct. I like them shields more than regen.

Diurnal. It has a better potency, making it a technically superior skill, plus I prefer the spell speed boost over the healing potency boost.. Nocturnal is great to put up inbetween trash pulls, or in PvP though.

Diurnal. It's synergy with time dilation and celestial opposition, coupled with the fact that regens have higher overall potency make it a nice choice. Instant cast 130% shields are sexy though. :)

I have gear sets for both in case I need to play one or the other, but I greatly prefer diurnal. 1300ish per tick regen? Yes please.

I like both, diurnal is for fast cast and nocturnal is for big heal potency. But for dungeon I prefer diurnal.

Diurnal is superior in nearly all situations aside from when another AST is present... The regen is far more efficient than the shield, you don't have to reapply it as much either since it's not constantly being absorbed, so you're saving a ton of MP not reapplying it.

However i did just have an encounter the other day in which my AST cohealer in A8 didn't choose a sect until after combat started. She chose diurnal, while i was already diurnal...

We survived, but both of us in diurnal made things awkward. We were about 25% less effective by my estimates.

It's a toss up for me. Diurnal is amazing and the vast amount of healing that it can pump out is insane. Aspected Benefic > Asp. Helios > Collective Unconscious > Celestial Opposition + Time Dilation just so good even on big pulls if you can find the time to squeeze it in. Nocturnal was my preferred for quite sometime but kinda with what has been said the it doesnt last long where as the regens are the gift that keep giving. However in PvP Noct is still king for me, I still have to have at least 3-4 people hammering on me to even break me and if I still have Essential Dignity when they do finally get me close I start to laugh at the feeble attempts cus by then they are either FAR away from where they should be or I am back with my allies.

Diurnal because I'm a regen whore
and the only time I get to use it on SCH is with Whispering Dawn (which is very nice but has a cooldown..sob)

Regen is love, regen is life
and if I wanted shield I'd just play my SCH.

Diurnal all the way. What's annoying about the Astrologian is that our regens can't stack with a White Mage, yet two White Mages can stack regens without issues. The system is basically forcing players to swap depending on the other team members.

Still, Diurnal is still the clear winner in this fight. Aside from those few times you're working with another Astro or a White Mage, this is the stance any Astrologian worth her salt should be using. Regens are vastly superior to shields in just about every conceivable way.

Diurnal > Nocturnal

Diurnal for the simple fact that AST own skill set works better with Diurnal. Time dilation and celestial opposition work with regens from diurnal, they dont work well with nocturnal.

I actually like both, it's a shame that Noct doesn't work with any of our extension skills but, the MP changes greatly helped this stance I haven't done any of the alex savage yet, but I really like it in Midas normal.

Diurnal for PvE and Nocturnal for PvP

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

Diurnal all the way. What's annoying about the Astrologian is that our regens can't stack with a White Mage, yet two White Mages can stack regens without issues. The system is basically forcing players to swap depending on the other team members.

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Um, they do stack? Or am I brainfarting? As far as I see our regens do stack with a whm, it's just with another ast that they don't.

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Originally Posted by Bebekurenai

Um, they do stack? Or am I brainfarting? As far as I see our regens do stack with a whm, it's just with another ast that they don't.

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Yes it stacks, even I've paired with WHM I usually change to diurnal at Void Ark 3rd boss for bigger regen.

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Originally Posted by Bebekurenai

Um, they do stack? Or am I brainfarting? As far as I see our regens do stack with a whm, it's just with another ast that they don't.

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Yeah, I mis-typed. I meant Astro. Again though, two white mages can stack regens (even more than that), yet we can't? Seems a bit unfair.

That is so true, together with the noct/adlo conflict. But hey, we needed something "bad" since this job is so awesome ;)

Depends on the content and wether or not I have another healer and what job they are. In 4 man dungeons with longer pulls I will use diurnal, but in 4 mans where trash tends to die rather easily I will use nocturnal. If I have a drk tank I'm also more likely to stay in diurnal as well. In 8 mans I will always choose the sect that gives opposite effects of my other healer. If I don't know the content very well I will use diurnal, but I prefer nocturnal though tbh, especially in PvP.

I could never get the hang of noctural sect shielding, I always stuck to Diurnal. But that was prior to the major AST buffs so I always felt like I needed the added healing from the Diurnal HoT's.

I like noct way more! Almost insta shield ftw!

It depends on which class the other player is and some fights its better to have one sect over the other. In the Void Ark (unless run with another AST) its better to use Diurnal Sect at the poison boss. So to answer your question, I do not have a favourite, because I switch between sects depending on the situation.

Both have their applications, it depends on the situation. Aside from the obvious what healer I'm paired with in 8man content, it usually comes down to length of fight, if 4man content. longer boss fights I go diurnal, but short trash packs, or if a squishy, non-CD-using tank, nocturnal

I only go Nocturnal when I'm paired with a white mage another AST (or playing pvp.) Sheilds seem to get eaten too fast to be worth it when I could instead cast a regen and then use single normal heal spells. I was looking forward to the sheilding since I'm a scholar main, but not having a fairy or a regen to pair with the shields make them feel lackluster.

to me, it dépends on the circumstances. If I am with a WHM I use NOCT. If I am with a SCH I use DIUR and if I am with an AST I will use the opposite of what that AST uses.

If I am alone, it dépends the dungeon, and the boss. Sohm Al I will do the whole dungeon in DIUR EXCEPT final boss I will switch to NOCT, my preference.

To me is situational and circumstancial.

Just me though

I prefer Nocturnal when I'm enabled to use it. I like the higher healing it offers compared to Diurnal's speed. Nocturnal Sect's shields also suit my style more. Sadly, in raids, many White Mages aren't comfortable with an Astrologian doing their thing while they brutally impale enemies on stones.

Nocturnal if I can trust the tank to not be a tryhard or a hot dog. I like it very much when a White Mage is present and uses Stoneskin and Medica II on tanks. It makes things go so much more smoothly.

Nocturnal for me. I dont have to keep track of when everyones regen is aabout to wear off and i can focus more on the cards.

Nocturnal is for putting up a shield in between pulls.

Paired with a whm? Go diurnal anyway, your regens stack. Unless you're doing a fight with a prey mechanic that needs shielding.

Paired with a sch? Go nocturnal...if you want them to get mad at you, and want to not really contribute.

Part of why AST is so bad is when you give players choices they often pick the wrong ones, like all the nocturnal fans here.

Mostly Diurnal for the passive haste. Just seems a lot more efficient to me. Although there are notable fights where I go Nocturnal like Chrysalis. (unless there's a Scholar ofc)

diurnal. AST shield is trash compared to sch.

When playing AST, in a Dungeon I'll pop into Noct before a pull, throw aspected bene on the tank, then return to diurnal, the aspected bene in dirunal + aspected helios in diurnal allow me to do much much much more dps than being in noct.
I constantly remain dps'ing as AST.
And then it repeats, after that group is dead > noct > aspected bene > back to diurnal.
Raid wise it's as most people do, if it's a SCH, obv, go Diurnal, if it's a WHM it as well depends, and if it's another AST it depends as well.
There's been multiple times I gave a WHM/Diurnal Sect AST the benefit of the doubt during a fight, to keep us up during heavy healing fights and have been let down.
So for fights such as the 3rd boss in Void Ark, Cuchulainn, I'll go Diurnal regardless of what the other healer is because I don't trust other healers.

Diurnal. It increases dps and the potency of the regen is superior to the shield version. (Noct AB is roughly the same potency as Ben II so what's the point?) I usually use Diurnal even with WHMs because I don't trust most of them to take care of aoe healing while I mitigate and react to spike damage as Noct. If the content requires shields, the other healer is Diurnal or instant heals help, I go Noct.