only four out of six primal sets from lore gear?

So the Lore gear is all primal themed. Sure, There has been some concept art flying around since 2.0, bout time they did something with some of it. Great. I'm on board but....


Why is fending doubled up with striking with Ifrit
and why is healing and casting both Shiva themed?
Where are Titan and Ramuh represented?
What happened here? Were budget cuts that bad? Did we not have time to design anything else? This feels a bit lazy.

In 3.4 will we have Titan Ramuh Ravana and Bismark gear?

If I had to guess it probably has some connections to the amount of primal weapons that entered the game. You rarely see anyone use Titan weapons and until the unsync featured entered the game, few farmed Ramuh for anything other then ponies. So by using this data, maybe they thought few people would have any interest in Titan and Ramuh themed gear.

Just a theory anyway.

I still don't get why tanks and monk have the same look. I mean.. no, I just don't get it.

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Originally Posted by IzVale

I still don't get why tanks and monk have the same look. I mean.. no, I just don't get it.

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Or why BRD is Levi when Ramah is the primal associated with New Grid. It would have been 10x better if they just associated the starting class area with the Lore gear with some adjustments here and there on the sets.

The tank/monk duplication bothers me, but the healer and caster gear have been recolors for a very long time.

So for Lore we get: Ifrit, Garuda, Leviathan, and Shiva.

That leaves: Titan, Ramuh, Moggle Mog, Bismark, and Ravana as far as the story ones are concerned. Presuming that Moggle Mog will be skipped, that gives us another four primal armors for the next Tombstones if they so wish.

And I really want my Bettleborg armor.

To be fair I am nitpicking, I get if aiming/scouting doubled up on Leviathan, even healing and casting have shared gear types.

but fending and striking though?

Id even be amused if you switched it up and didn't make titan the obvious tank set and made titan scouting or something silly. Its just not fair dragoon gets a Garuda set all its own. Especially when you have two unused primals to make armor from.

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Originally Posted by OranKells

Its just not fair dragoon gets a Garuda set all its own. Especially when you have two unused primals to make armor from.

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I've been thinking this as well, why on earth do Dragoons get a primal just for them? Maybe they were the odd man out when it came to balance? I'm perturbed that my ninja shares with bard and machinist. I understand bard and machinist sharing, but ninja too? If they were going to be pairing, I'd think ninja would go with pugilist since they previously shared gear when the ninja was introduced.
When I get my full primal, I will be glamouring.

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Originally Posted by OranKells

Its just not fair dragoon gets a Garuda set all its own. Especially when you have two unused primals to make armor from.

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Because its still the Dragoon Expansion, even though we didn't get any buffs/nerfs this patch. Gave us something. :cool:

Not the first time different jobs share the same.

http://gamerescape.com/wp-content/up...pach3.1_15.png

There are 4 different looks shared here aswell and I didn't hear as much about it. I have not looked into the Primal sets myself, so I don't know if there are any differences in colors or not.
I do however know that just like the VA Fending gear, the primal one has more cloth on it than the DPS counterpart.

Four out of six?

Wouldn't it be four out of eight?

Or 13 if you want to count ultima, thordan, good king moogle and Odin and sephirot?

In my opinion:

Tanks should have gotten Titan.
DPS casters should have gotten Ramuh.
Mnk getting Ifrit, fine.
Dragoon should have gotten Leviathan.
Nin/Brd/Mch should have gotten Garuda.
Whm should have gotten Bismarck.
AST and SCH I'm not sure. Shiva is alright I guess.

Of course I'm open to alternatives, but you'll never convince tanks should have gotten anything but Titan!

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Originally Posted by Slappah

Four out of six?

Wouldn't it be four out of eight?

Or 13 if you want to count ultima, thordan, good king moogle and Odin and sephirot?

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Probably going off only 2.0 story primals and not counting Moggle Mog (He didn't get a pony either so makes sense we wouldn't get armor, though I could see it eventually).

Again as it goes, we have four right now, and counting just story primals overall we have 5 more primals for another tombstone set, 4 if we don't count Moggle Mog (Titan, Ramuh, Ravana, Bismark.)

And thats before getting into non-story primals. Odin and Bahamut may be out of the running due to actual gear associated with them already out there, but we still have Phoenix, the Warring Triad, and KotR (if they don't consider the last too similar to Alexander's "holy" style armor.) Hell, KotR pretty could just be used itself!

Tank : Titan/Sephirot
WHM : Moggle
SCH : Phoenix
AST : Valefor? (not yet released, but as been mention in the game by gagarua)
Monk : Ifrit
Dragoon : Leviathan
Nin : Ravana
Bard : Garuda
MCH : Bismark
Black Mage : Ramuh
SMN : Bahamut


That's my idea, Tank sharing titan/sephirot is mostly due to limitation with how many primals or elder primals we've encountered so far.

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Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle

Tank : Titan/Sephirot
WHM : Moggle
SCH : Phoenix
AST : Valefor? (not yet released, but as been mention in the game by gagarua)
Monk : Ifrit
Dragoon : Leviathan
Nin : Ravana
Bard : Garuda
MCH : Bismark
Black Mage : Ramuh
SMN : Bahamut


That's my idea, Tank sharing titan/sephirot is mostly due to limitation with how many primals or elder primals we've encountered so far.

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Valefor probably won't be a summon since it already appeared in the World of Darkness. Bahamut also probably won't be getting Tombstone armor since the Final Coil pretty much is Bahamut armor. Same with Alexander.

They are lacking of gears designer, for all I can make up excuses for them.

but... the official excuse :
Limitation of Memory, we can only have 4 out of these many primals.

W w w w w ....

new lore sets besides the dragoon and caster ones look absolutely hideous.

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Originally Posted by DukeGr

new lore sets besides the dragoon and caster ones look absolutely hideous.

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Really? I think the drg set looks extremely awkward, while the Levi bard/ninja looks pretty good.

Wait... DRG is Garuda? I thought it was Bismark?

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Originally Posted by Slappah

Really? I think the drg set looks extremely awkward, while the Levi bard/ninja looks pretty good.

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It all boils down to personal preference, moreover some sets look better in different races/genders. My point is that most of the new lore sets feel cheap, mediocre, underdeveloped and make no sense. For example why does the tank set look the same as the monk's set? I couldn't find any difference between them besides the chest piece being a bit more light on the monk. Why does the bard levi set have those red boots looking out of place. Why do the lore weapons have no animation except for the monk weapon(which is a reskin of monk's ifrit weapon with a cooler glow)?

I expect endgame gear to look endgame with all the bells and whistles, not thinking about how to glamour it before i even get it.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

So for Lore we get: Ifrit, Garuda, Leviathan, and Shiva.

That leaves: Titan, Ramuh, Moggle Mog, Bismark, and Ravana as far as the story ones are concerned. Presuming that Moggle Mog will be skipped, that gives us another four primal armors for the next Tombstones if they so wish.

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This is my thought on the next tomestone set as well, as well that the next PvP sets rounding out the rest of the Twelve

They are limiting the gear set designs due to limited development schedule and resources but still it's rather disappointing.

Honestly, I'm fine with it. If you use up everything you'll have nothing left. Primal theme gear for next Expansion.
The gear looks cool ( subjectively speaking ) and I'm personally content.