Add storm eye debuff on plunge

The title say it all so guys what you think?
I mean we have reprisal as path but it proc & ogcd.
So i was thinking why not Plunge could be good candidate.

It would help with PLD/DRK comp & ninja complaints.
And maybe make war to using a lot bb as ot lol... :mad:

Cannot tell if that's the best thing to do, but DRK definitely needs some utility to help it present itself a bit better with the current PLD buffs.

Gonna post my wishlist soon of "if DRK was better then it is."

But I wouldn't mind it if it got that effect if you DA enhance it.

DRK skill changes:

Unleash - Potency doubled on Unmend proc.

Blood Weapon - Duration needs to be either a few seconds longer or on par with Bloodshower.

Power Slash - Have it mirror Rage of Halone and apply INT down. How often are you actually using this weaponskill? Not much.

Shadow Skin/Wall - boosted mitigation with Dark Arts enhancement

Delirium - Replaces Int Down with Magic Vulnerability up. Increases magic attacks on target by 10%. Mirrors Storm's Eye/Dancing Edge but for magic casters.

Living Dead - Healing requirements reduced to 50% of max HP total. Soul Eater potency doubled under Living and Walking Dead.

Walking Dead - All MP related skills cost 0 MP. Dark Arts still costs MP. Phys/Mag vulnerability down.(20% damage reduction) All attacks you inflict generate HP returns. Effect is not dispelled until timer elapses. At the end of your timer you will die if you did not receive 50% healing. If you live damage reduction and enhanced bonuses to stats and potency increases disappear.

Salted Earth - Scourge DoT effectiveness is doubled while in circle. DA enhancement employs a passive Blind in the same vein as a SMN's SF's Slow.

Sole Survivor - DA enhancement adds a 10% TP restore in addition to the existing 20% HP/MP restore.


Just some of my ideas. Fret not most of them are pretty horrible.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Power Slash - Have it mirror Rage of Halone and apply INT down. How often are you actually using this weaponskill? Not much.

Shadow Skin/Wall - boosted mitigation with Dark Arts enhancement

Delirium - Replaces Int Down with Magic Vulnerability up. Increases magic attacks on target by 10%. Mirrors Storm's Eye/Dancing Edge but for magic casters.

Living Dead - Healing requirements reduced to 50% of max HP total. Soul Eater potency doubled under Living and Walking Dead.

Walking Dead - All MP related skills cost 0 MP. Dark Arts still costs MP. Phys/Mag vulnerability down.(20% damage reduction) All attacks you inflict generate HP returns. Effect is not dispelled until timer elapses. At the end of your timer you will die if you did not receive 50% healing. If you live damage reduction and enhanced bonuses to stats and potency increases disappear.

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I personally like these.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Power Slash - Have it mirror Rage of Halone and apply INT down. How often are you actually using this weaponskill? Not much.

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Please no, either don't do that, or apply the INT debuff only if you combo it off Syphon Strike.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Gonna post my wishlist soon of "if DRK was better then it is."

But I wouldn't mind it if it got that effect if you DA enhance it.

DRK skill changes:

Power Slash - Have it mirror Rage of Halone and apply INT down. How often are you actually using this weaponskill? Not much.

Delirium - Replaces Int Down with Magic Vulnerability up. Increases magic attacks on target by 10%. Mirrors Storm's Eye/Dancing Edge but for magic casters.

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that is the only 2 I can get behide on changes everything else just over kill

Do people really want to skip a Syphon Strike that much to add an INT down? I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by Tanathya

Do people really want to skip a Syphon Strike that much to add an INT down? I don't get it.

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right now with Monks overwriting our Delirium we can't really use it

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Originally Posted by GundamAxelWing

right now with Monks overwriting our Delirium we can't really use it

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That's unrelated to what I said.

Reprisal is fine as it is imo. Sure WAR can have Path up 100% of the time, but do they? Probably not. If you use Dark Dance a bit before whatever you're looking to mitigate you can pretty much always manage to get a proc. And the gap-closing aspect of Plunge already sets us apart from the other tanks, no need to give it an added effect.

Some of these threads are just plain ridiculous. I'm sorry, but you can't have a version of what everyone else has. The whole point of having multiple tank jobs is to have separate play styles. People are so concerned with bringing every possible utility to raid but aren't willing to adjust comps. If you want to use Paladin/Dark Knight go for it! Want a slash debuff? Bring a Ninja. Do you want to run Warrior/Paladin? Sweet! Do it! Better bring that Monk for INT down. And I know this will blow your mind but do you want to keep doing EXACTLY what everyone has been already with Dark Knight/Warrior? Nobody is stopping you. I'll say it again. Not everyone needs access to everything. There are eight spots to fill in a raid and there is not a single god comp to solve all problems in all fights. Be fluid and adjust. Be glad Paladin got a bit of potency love. Be glad Dark Knight got TP reductions. Rejoice that Warrior didn't get a nerf bat to the face.

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change sole survivor to restore TP when placed with each attack then we're

I had suggested this in the PLD thread:

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

As far as DRK utility, it doesn't even need new or different abilities, it could work with added Dark Arts effects.

Dark Arts + Salted Earth:
Adds vulnerability to damage over time effects. DoTs deal 10% more damage to any targets within the Salted Earth area. This is a unique effect that doesn't conflict with any other jobs, but does provide support to the group.

Dark Arts + Blood Weapon:
Weapon skills add a debuff to the target lasting 4 seconds that causes any hits from anyone in the party to drain a small amount of health. The debuff is refreshed each time a weaponskill is used while under the effect of Blood Weapon. This would be a small aid that could be used in situations where there is consistent raid-wide damage to help take a little pressure off of the healers (think Drain Samba for anyone familiar with FFXI).

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...but it seems more appropriate here. I'm not sure Plunge needs yet another slashing debuff, we already have 2 jobs that offer that and it becomes redundant. If DRK gets added utility, I think it needs something unique. The INT debuff already conflicts with Monk.

Just adding Blunt resist down to Delirium or making Delirium and Dragon Kick neither stack with nor override each other would improve DRK-MNK compositions. At least then they add something to Monk just as WAR adds something to NIN. The only real issue remains that no WAR = mandatory NIN. Given how good a NIN's raid dps contribution is already though, that issue is neither new or entirely unique. It's just large; at this point those two seem about as essential as MCH/BRD, if not more so when neither MP restoration nor Rain of Death is needed, and Foe/Hypercharge would give relatively little contribution over time.

(Except where hard swaps bring out the worst of PLD lacking MDef or DRK reprisal being locked to MT. Then the other two tanks still have additional parity issues that go well beyond QoL.)

I've said all I have to say on these topics. So I'll spitball some more ideas here. Just for fun.

Sole Survivor - Places buff Sole Survivor on the target. MP refresh for 24s with a potency of 40. Grit Effect: Marks the target with the status Another Victim. If that target should be KO'd in battle, 20% of your maximum HP and MP will be restored. Duration: 15s

What it does for raids:
In a group with a NIN, you now have MP/TP recovery at no cost to DPS in exchange for being single-target only. This opens up the possibility of compositions without BRD/MCH and by extension those without DRG, so you can bring a MNK and/or two casters. SMN/BLM not competing as much for raid slots. BRD/MCH comps still viable because of the raid-wide utility on no cooldown.

*OR*

Sole Survivor - Marks the target with the status Another Victim. For the next 15 seconds, 20% of the damage dealt by the target is compiled and converted into magical and physical shields for all party members in range. Effect capped at 30% of party members' maximum HP. Grit Effect: Marks the target with the status Another Victim. If that target should be KO'd in battle, 20% of your maximum HP and MP will be restored. Duration: 15s

What it does for raids:
Acts like a reverse Wildfire and Divine Veil combined, but slightly different. You put it on the boss during a high damage phase. Boss deals a crapton of damage and then you get two separate shields for 20% of the separate, compiled amounts of physical and magical damage the boss dealt in that time. The shields cannot absorb more than 30% of a given party member's maximum HP. Different from DV in that it allows huge damage to happen but in exchange you get a powerful Stoneskin effect afterwards.

*OR*

Transfix - Delivers an attack with a potency of 210. Can only be used immediately after dealing critical damage. Additional Effect: Target suffers critical damage from all attacks for 2 seconds. Recast time: 100s. Grit Effect: Reprisal - Delivers an attack with a potency of 210. Can only be used immediately after parrying an attack. Additional Effect: Lowers target's damage dealt by 10% Duration: 20s Recast time: 30s.

What it does for raids:
Reprisal turns into Transfix when you turn Grit off. This provides DPS utility while OTing. Does not compete with other raid DPS utilities and provides a DPS increase for PLD/DRK tank compositions.

*OR*

Salted Earth - Creates a patch of salted earth, dealing unaspected damage with a potency of 75 to any enemies who enter. Duration: 21s. Dark Arts Effect: Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 65 to any enemies who enter. Party members that enter gain the effect of certain Darkside abilities.

What it does for raids:
Raid mitigation utility at an appropriate cost to DPS a la WAR with Storm's Path. Party members standing in the AoE receive slightly weaker versions of Dark Dance and Dark Mind (+15% parry rate, -10% magic vulnerability). Again, does not compete with other raid mitigation utilities. The effect is directed at party members only; the DRK does not benefit from standing in the AoE.

*OR*

Delirium - Reduces magic resistance of target by 10% for 20s. Effect does not stack with Foe Requiem or Bishop Hypercharge. Grit Effect: Reduces target's INT by 10%. Duration: 20s

What it does for raids: Similar to the Sole Survivor change at the top, it provides an alternative to BRD for caster-heavy compositions. Effect still stacks with Rook Hypercharge so MCH (and DRG for MCH) are still valued. In a group without a BRD you have increased caster DPS at no cost to personal DPS, in exchange for being single-target only.

I'd like to see DRK's abilities tied more to grit and dark arts, to make grit feel more like a tank stance and make abilities feel useful even when not getting hit, much like how WAR can use its abilities to build wrath when it's not using them as defensive cooldowns.

For example: dark dance- increases parry by 30%, dark arts effect: adds evasion down to attacks. Grit: changes dark arts effect to increase evasion by 20%.
Plunge- dark arts adds slashing resistance down, Grit: changes dark arts to increases range to 25y.
Dark mind- dark arts retaliates with a 20 potency attack upon receiving magic damage. Grit changes dark arts effect to increase damage reduction to 30%.