Emperors Sword

I currently use emperors fists on my monk so it looks like i am literally fighting with my fists. I think SE should add emperors sword which would hide the blade and only show the hilt of the sword. it could look something similar to saber's sword Excalibur from fate/stay night series. the blade can have a blurry look

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Originally Posted by KoroushSensei

I currently use emperors fists on my monk so it looks like i am literally fighting with my fists. I think SE should add emperors sword which would hide the blade and only show the hilt of the sword. it could look something similar to saber's sword Excalibur from fate/stay night series. the blade can have a blurry look

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That would be a cool effect! It would be nice to see it in the game.

No, it's gonna break people's immersions.

is zantetsuken not good enough for that?

the only reason monk gets one is because they are punching anyways.

a guy making stabbing motions with no spear, or reading an imaginary book, or swinging a non-existent sword would all look ridiculously stupid

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Originally Posted by Nihility

is zantetsuken not good enough for that?

the only reason monk gets one is because they are punching anyways.

a guy making stabbing motions with no spear, or reading an imaginary book, or swinging a non-existent sword would all look ridiculously stupid

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Palm reading is a thing though.

but, they already stated they wouldn't make the emperor's shield because shield bashing without a shield makes no sense... so I guess there is an even lower chance to see something like this...

Honestly I prefer emperor's new shield..

I don't see anything wrong with invisible weapons, while it'll look strange, it's not *too* far out regarding lore. In the end, it's glamour; meaning, the base item is just taking up the appearance of ___ over it. The base item is still there ... just glamoured.

Unless I am mistaken in how glamour (in the world of FF14 not just glamour prisms) work.

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Originally Posted by myahele

I don't see anything wrong with invisible weapons, while it'll look strange, it's not *too* far out regarding lore. In the end, it's glamour; meaning, the base item is just taking up the appearance of ___ over it. The base item is still there ... just glamoured.

Unless I am mistaken in how glamour (in the world of FF14 not just glamour prisms) work.

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They would have to change some of the animations as they would look silly, i mean take a black mage for example.

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Originally Posted by myahele

The base item is still there ... just glamoured.

Unless I am mistaken in how glamour (in the world of FF14 not just glamour prisms) work.

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In a way, you're right. The whole glamour thing is just casting an illusion on the gear you're using to make it look like something else. Hence why bikini tanks can still take as much damage without going splat as a tincan tank. Does it look weird? Yes. Will it disturb people? Yes. Will it disturb the enemy, seeing their thrust to an "unprotected" belly go clank! and not even scratch the skin? Sadly no ;_; It should.

And from a combat standpoint, it would make equal sense to make your weapon invisible -- the enemy wouldn't be able to predict where the point of your weapon is unless they were really, really, really good.

To make this game more realistic (keeping the 'fantasy' setting in mind, of course) and immersive, ridiculous or half-naked glamours should give a bonus to attack and defence for the first X seconds of a fight, due to the enemy being so shocked at your appearance. And glamouring on an invisible weapon on a weapon with more reach than fists/knives should also provide a bonus to attack and parry (or block in case of shields), since the enemy wouldn't be able to predict its location as easily. To make things fair, it should also give a penalty to attack and defence to your team mates unless they also have the glamour buff, because they'll be equally distracted by your appearance, and/or worrying about your life and sanity.

Will we get that? No. Because it would be really, really tricky to program in a system that checks whether your glamour is 'appropriate' or not. And because everyone would utilize that in order to get the buff, which in a fairly short amount of time would lead to the enemies becoming immune to it because it's so commonplace.

And because most people don't seem to remember that your glamoured outfit is an illusion (based on the comments to "lightly clad" people in Coerthas/Snowcloak, and 'muh immersion' complaints regarding bikini/snowman tanks), SE will keep implementing glamour items and weapons based on how reasonable they would be as actual equipment, and not as illusions ^^;

(Thanks for reading my long ramble.)

I want emperor's new player to hide everyone.

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Originally Posted by KoroushSensei

I currently use emperors fists on my monk so it looks like i am literally fighting with my fists. I think SE should add emperors sword which would hide the blade and only show the hilt of the sword. it could look something similar to saber's sword Excalibur from fate/stay night series. the blade can have a blurry look

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i'd rather have an emperors shield that way the shield is hidden and it looks like pld's are fighting with just the one handed sword that would look kool not that i don't mind using shields but still something to think about SE.

I admit I would like more glamour stuff involving weapons. While I can see the reasoning on the whole "No emperor shield" they did mention they may create a very small one we can use in place. Though going back to FF7 and having weapons like an Umbrella or Baseball bat with nails, I think a few items just for fun can't hurt. Is it practical to swing a frozen fish as a sword? Nope but about as reasonable as someone running around in a chocobo suit or bikini fighting monsters. :3

Do you ever notice that in older FF games, no matter what you equip someone with they still look the same? Any reason Barret should be shirtless even though he's wearing armor? Well, obviously it's glamour!

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Do you ever notice that in older FF games, no matter what you equip someone with they still look the same? Any reason Barret should be shirtless even though he's wearing armor? Well, obviously it's glamour!

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NES/SNES/PS1/PS2 limitations

Sometimes I wish we could get an Emperor's New Scepter; I'd much rather cast with my hands than keep pretending Roegadyns actually use any appreciable amount of any low-level staff they wield.

.-. I want there Shields invisible!

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Originally Posted by Chimeric

Sometimes I wish we could get an Emperor's New Scepter; I'd much rather cast with my hands than keep pretending Roegadyns actually use any appreciable amount of any low-level staff they wield.

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Have you looked at the casting animation of Cure?
If it were not for the staff, the hand motion alone would look like you want to grope someone! (it already does look like that tho)

http://i.imgur.com/CqR5YO4.gif

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Originally Posted by Arkenne

Have you looked at the casting animation of Cure?
If it were not for the staff, the hand motion alone would look like you want to grope someone! (it already does look like that tho)

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If you do Cure or Stoneskin with AST, it still looks weird with your empty hand gripped around nothing; if the spell effect's centered on the hand, it should most likely obscure your weird empty crab claw.

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Originally Posted by Chimeric

If you do Cure or Stoneskin with AST, it still looks weird with your empty hand gripped around nothing; if the spell effect's centered on the hand, it should most likely obscure your weird empty crab claw.

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but that's not how glamour works, it would just be an invisible weapon.
black and white mages would look like they're being attacked by a swarm of bees while strange glowy orbs are swinging in arcs around them
astrologians would look like a cat chasing a laser pointer spot
scholars would just be constantly holding one hand flat while shaking a fist above it
dragoons would look like they're miming a janitor sweeping floors
machinists would apparently be the master pointer guy. point, point, spin point, kneel down point

it would look really really bad

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Originally Posted by KoroushSensei

the blade can have a blurry look

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Translucent? Sure, but flat out invisible?

Not something I would vote for.

WTB Emperor's New Hand Gun
It could TOTALLY work >_>

Emperors New Mount.

I want an invisible pony damn it!

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Originally Posted by KoroushSensei

http://i.imgur.com/CqR5YO4.gif

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If it looked like that, I would be all for it.

As for the hidden shield...it would require new animations or it would just look silly, as the left hand would still be miming like it was holding a shield, and with the current animation set if the effect wasn't similar to the above where you have a sort translucent effect (so graphically it appears during various ability animations) it would just end up looking silly instead of cool.

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Originally Posted by myahele

I don't see anything wrong with invisible weapons, while it'll look strange, it's not *too* far out regarding lore. In the end, it's glamour; meaning, the base item is just taking up the appearance of ___ over it. The base item is still there ... just glamoured.

Unless I am mistaken in how glamour (in the world of FF14 not just glamour prisms) work.

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I doubt it breaks immersion anyway, I personally wouldn't use any of them except Emperor New Fist but in FF12 International...the best weapons were entirely invisible xD

I want people to stop suggesting anime glamours.

Too much of a dream? Okay

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

I want people to stop suggesting anime glamours.

Too much of a dream? Okay

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That's like asking people to stop tanking the floor or to stop ignoring mechanics.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

That's like asking people to stop tanking the floor or to stop ignoring mechanics.

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Darn :'(

/10char

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Originally Posted by Berethos

If it looked like that, I would be all for it.

As for the hidden shield...it would require new animations or it would just look silly, as the left hand would still be miming like it was holding a shield, and with the current animation set if the effect wasn't similar to the above where you have a sort translucent effect (so graphically it appears during various ability animations) it would just end up looking silly instead of cool.

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Wouldn't it just look like a pimp slap





Gods I want an invisible shield Dx

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Originally Posted by KoroushSensei

http://i.imgur.com/CqR5YO4.gif

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This exactly!

See, I don't see where folks are getting that this will break immersion or look silly. No one is asking for the various sword related ability/spell effects to be invisible. As far as the actual blade, it could be translucent or blurry.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

I want people to stop suggesting anime glamours.

Too much of a dream? Okay

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*Sigh* Askaray, are you really complaining about people wanting anime glamours in a MMO where most of the game design is anime based?

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

*Sigh* Askaray, are you really complaining about people wanting anime glamours in a MMO where most of the game design is anime based?

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Yep
;)

/10char

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Yep
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/10char

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Hahahaha!

/hug :D

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

We don't have any plans to make all weapon types transparent; however, for monks, we are planning to release something once we look more into the concept of fighting with their own fists.

From a World setting and story perspective, not having a visible shield would mean that you couldn't use shield bash or shield lob, and as such we have no plans to introduce an "Emperor's New Shield." However, we may be able to make a small shield so that it doesn't stand out too much, so we will look into that.

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The shield has pretty much already been said 'no' to in one of the many other threads about it.

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Originally Posted by Nihility

is zantetsuken not good enough for that?

the only reason monk gets one is because they are punching anyways.

a guy making stabbing motions with no spear, or reading an imaginary book, or swinging a non-existent sword would all look ridiculously stupid

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And that's exactly why it should be a thing

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Originally Posted by Chimeric

If you do Cure or Stoneskin with AST, it still looks weird with your empty hand gripped around nothing; if the spell effect's centered on the hand, it should most likely obscure your weird empty crab claw.

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you should see lancer using cure it looks like they're spear is floating infront of them

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Originally Posted by Blackbird1

you should see lancer using cure it looks like they're spear is floating infront of them

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Even worse for an archer, their bow with a magical nocked arrow floats in front of them.