NEED TIPS/HELP WITH PERCEPTION

I tried to find out what I am looking for but frankly the information are...well confusing..

I am 60 on both MIN and BTN, my perception though is ...479. How the heck do you increase this ? I mean the gears I wear are lvl 55 is the only one I could find the highest I could find.

As it looks I need scripts, but I cant get scripts beacuse my perception isnt high enough I reach barely 300, instead of the 450 needed, even 400 I cant get. How the heck do you increase it ? do I miss something somewhere.

I dont have problem on all my crafters to get scripts and they are lvl 57, but on my gatherers no way I can....Does HQing all of the gears lvl 55, and some accessories, cover the gap ? ..

Well anything that can help me is more then welcomed...thank you in advance

There is the L60 Serpentskin set that will help you, or the L58 (I think) blue scrip gear - though that's pretty trash.

This is from the MB....which it looks like you didn't check I L55 is the highest you can find.

The gating on the scrip system and the barrier to entry is quite frankly stupid, in my opinion - so OP, I feel your pain. It was designed around players coming out of 2.55 after a full expansion's worth of progression, and offers nothing to help new players get enough of the stats that matter to actually start getting gear. There is almost no way to get the collectibility of an item high enough to turn in without 600GP, which is a very difficult threshold to meet.

OP, what I'll suggest you do is upgrade your jewelry from the market board, and consider upgrading your MH and OH tools as well. That will give you more GP, and may put you in range of 600 to be able to use food to get there. The level 58 gear you get from blue scrips is going to be slightly better than the level 60 MB gear by default, but the MB gear has materia slots, and can be HQ, which will also give you more stats.

I believe gathering temple leves in Ishgard may also provide an avenue for getting better jewelry, but I never looked into it, as they are cumbersome, and the MB is faster.

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Originally Posted by Jpec07

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this is dumb ! how are we supposed to get there ? lol...I mean if to get the gears I need I need to be geared, and I acnt get geared without getting scripts that require to be geared, might as well stop MIN + BOT ...this is ridiculous....there must be a way somewhere hidden...

Thanks for the info !

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

this is dumb ! how are we supposed to get there ? lol...I mean if to get the gears I need I need to be geared, and I acnt get geared without getting scripts that require to be geared, might as well stop MIN + BOT ...this is ridiculous....there must be a way somewhere hidden...

Thanks for the info !

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If you were on Famfrit, I'd offer to try to make some of it for you. I was finally able to break through the gearing threshold for 1* recipes, and can make sledgehammers, pickaxes, scythes, and hatchets pretty easily. :(

Grab the HQ main and offhand tools...then slowly start getting your blue gear, if you still cant find crafted sixty gear. That'll be enough to reach red scrips, then you can start the real farming.

Or you can... ask any crafter... takes 30secondes to craft. Just give them a tip, I'm sure they'd do it for free.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

I am 60 on both MIN and BTN, my perception though is ...479. How the heck do you increase this ? I mean the gears I wear are lvl 55 is the only one I could find the highest I could find.

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You have to craft, or buy off the board, the level 60 i150 left side gear. Similarly, you have to craft, or buy off the board, the Hallowed Chestnut accessories.


You should be able to, using the level 55 stuff you bought in Moghome along with some level 51-55ish jewelry, be able to gather BLUE scrips. However, the level 57 stuff is not really worthwhile as a stopping point - better to just get the level 60, i150 stuff. That stuff, melded, will let you start gathering the RED scrips.

You can, however, buy NQ tools off of vendors. Azys Lla has a vendor that sells level 60 weapons and tools. There's a certain cave you visited in the Hinterlands that has a vendor that sells the level 59 OH tools.

If you were rolling in the Gil, I'd suggest buying the i170 OH tool, and jewelry/accessories, off the Marketboard. Unfortunately, at a probable cost of over 2.5 million Gil per item, plus the cost of melding, that is probably out of the question for you. So, get the Hallowed Chestnut level accessories instead.

Without master3 or any fancy mats you should still be able to craft a set to reach 597 if everything's HQ. Stick a materia III on one of these temporary accessories to hit the magic 600.

Even with that it's still just the start of a painful grind tho.

You could also use food to get extra gp. Normal quality beef stew gives 24 gp, and that's not top tier.

Getting the i150 left side and offhands are your best bet with only a couple melds you can do all rotations except for legendary nodes. The accessories can even be the dodore ones as long as you are at 600 gp. If you don't have money grab a few stacks of hard silver ore and autumn regis sand. (Birch logs etc see what is selling) than buy the gear you need and get working on scrips. It's not that bad. :)

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Originally Posted by MeridaQ

Getting the i150 left side and offhands are your best bet with only a couple melds you can do all rotations except for legendary nodes. The accessories can even be the dodore ones as long as you are at 600 gp. If you don't have money grab a few stacks of hard silver ore and autumn regis sand. (Birch logs etc see what is selling) than buy the gear you need and get working on scrips. It's not that bad. :)

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thank you everyone I will try this, I just dont manage to get the collectible all I reach as a level is 300....I probably must do something wrong...thanks alot everyone for your time and infos...I will ask in-game for the proper rotation and see if I manage something, it just drives me nuts not to be able to do it. I dont mind to get few blue scripts at a time slow grind is not a problem but nothing at all THAT is a problem..

smooches thank you

The two main rotations are pretty simple.

2 Collects:
Reveal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Collect
Collect

If you don't quite have the Perception you can do 1 collect

Reveal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Utmost Caution
Methodical Appraisal
Utmost Caution
Methodical Appraisal
Collect

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Originally Posted by Deshavi

The two main rotations are pretty simple.

2 Collects:
Reveal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Collect
Collect

If you don't quite have the Perception you can do 1 collect

Reveal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Discerning Eye
Methodical Appraisal
Utmost Caution
Methodical Appraisal
Utmost Caution
Methodical Appraisal
Collect

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ohh this good I will keep it and try it when I am back home this evening...each time I try to hit the node more then 3 times it disappears....

THANK YOU !!!

I hope you the best of luck!!! If you have more questions just ask. ;)

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Originally Posted by MeridaQ

I hope you the best of luck!!! If you have more questions just ask. ;)

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yep I will....let me try that collect thing... maybe finally I can get some blue scripts to move forward.....*fingers crossed*

ok here is the deal..thanks to you all I managed FINALLY to get my first 10 blue scripts....I know is not much BUT is better then earlier...finally I can get some stuff....THANK YOU again guys and girls for your help

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

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Not the hallowed chestnut pieces. Those are for crafters. She wants the LW ones. Dragonskin or some such.

I think the real issue is the system was ultimately botched to begin with. The point of the Blue Scrip gear is to offer a non-crafted alternative in progression level 55 -> level 58. The fact that you can't get to that point without using crafted gear proves the system is flawed.

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Originally Posted by Velox

I think the real issue is the system was ultimately botched to begin with. The point of the Blue Scrip gear is to offer a non-crafted alternative in progression level 55 -> level 58. The fact that you can't get to that point without using crafted gear proves the system is flawed.

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I am totally in agreement with you, I was looking through all my crafters to see if I had miss a piece of gear, couldnt believe that between 55 and 60 there was nothing there that I could or could be crafted.

The option of 58 isnt bad, is just gated behind blue scripts which, once you know how to go about, isnt long to get, but it shouldnt be so, in my opinion.

I went from 50-60 on all 3 gathering skills pretty blind to the possibilities. It wasn't really clear what the 'scrip' system was all about. I managed to hit 60 without getting any scrips. At that point, the only way to get to the gathering/perception levels necessary to do the level 60 quests was to go out and purchase HQ gear all around. NOT optimal. Luckily, my rise to 60 was accompanied by a large number of MB sales of gathered items, so I could afford the gear. I don't know that this is possible anymore.

Gathering and crafting should come with manuals ... [yeah, I know about Caimie ... thankfully]

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to buy those gears it cost a FORTUNE, so if there is a way to make them I will take that road instead....hopefully somewhere there is a way to make them right?

I cant afoard to spend zillions just to gear up....that thought alone is just about silly...when my crafters are nearly all at 60. This game has it backwards,

You need to be geared to gear up; but to gear up, you need to have gears; to get the gears that will allow you to gear up, you need to get scripts but if you are not geared is hard to meet the breaking point...LOL..I got lost in my own explanation...

I got my gatherers to 60, without doing blue scrips... Mainly just doing GC turn ins, and getting stacks of what my crafter's needed. I then had an FC friend make the white gear set for me, after I gathered the mats. Did a few simple melds (all 100%) and I've been good for everything aside from HQ folklore. When my crafter's caught up to 60, they could easily make their own white gear. So I assume if you been cross leveling ask you could make your own gathering white gear.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

I managed to hit 60 without getting any scrips. At that point, the only way to get to the gathering/perception levels necessary to do the level 60 quests was to go out and purchase HQ gear all around. NOT optimal.

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That quest is actually difficult without the HQ gear, which means either buying stuff off the board or crafting it yourself. I was not able to meet the Perception requirement (I refused to meld the gear I was leveling up in) in the Blue Gathering Scrip gear.

For anyone who wants to start doing blue scrips (56) you can go to moghome and buy all the field gear (55 dhalmelskin) NQ and the main hand. Then with either the titanium or (mythrite) sledgehammer, 600 GP and perception/gp food you can begin gathering blue scrips. Your stats will be 462(548) gather 463(457) perp. To get blue you need 417/464 w/ rotation =DE-MA-DE-MA-UC-MA-UC-MA collect one. No crafted gear needed all from NPC or quests. Good luck!

One more thing full trailblazer (blue scrip gear) plus dragonskin belt w/ HQ adamantite MH + OH will make you well above necessary requirements for red scrips! So any melds/food can help you if you don't have those tools (melds in your accessories/belt)

MeiUshu:

It wasn't too bad at the time (around November of last year, lots of crafters around selling items at some reasonable prices). If you have LTW and BSM at 60 and can afford to work until you've crafted the HQ main-hand and second-hand, plus most of the left-side gear, you should be fine. The right side accessories only grant you GP, and you don't need them to do the level 60 quests. For scrips, however, that GP is really necessary as you need to get to at least 600 GP to 'collect' with any proper rotation.

One of the nice things about leveling crafting from 50-60 is that you don't need to be a max level gaherer to get most of the materials -- even the adamant[ite?] ore can be gotten for recipes while in sub-60 gathering gear. Just not the collectibles.

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yes, I was able to craft my gears myself including the right hand tool.. the main hand is sitll lvl 55, might make it at a later stage. I have reached the level where I cna get basic blue scripts those that give 10, but is good I have time.

For the other, slowly but surely...I will get there too.. Now that I started FINALLY, I can move forward...I will come back though to you people when I am stuck again which will happen surely

The quickest, one piece way to add perception.

HQ serpentskin bush hat. Perception +116. Meld in two Gatherer's Guile IV for another +12.

Also Dzemael au Gratin is both GP and perception food. It can be bought cheaply from an NPC in the Jeweled Crozier.