Galvanize question

Hey everyone, I was just wondering how or when to use Adlo vs Succor because Adlo is 300 potency but Succor is 150. So before a pull or whatever if I cast a Succor should I wait for it to be used on the tank before using Adlo on him? Or same in the reverse is more my question, if I have Adlo on the tank and then want to cast Succor, will it overwrite the Adlo with a weaker shield instead? Thanks!

Galvanize vs Galvanize, the largest shield wins. Typically I will Adlo the tank then succor the party, since the tank's shield will fall quickly, but the party has up to 30 seconds to benefit from it. Adlo will also deteriorate before stoneskin, so if you can get it back up before stoneskin breaks, you've got even more time. Deployment Tactics + Adlo work well on a Warrior in defiance if you know your party will be taking heavy damage immediately.

When working with a Nocturnal stance Astrologian your shields will be interchangeable. Whoever casts theirs last, no matter how small, overwrites the other.

Great thanks so much for the quick reply that's good to know!

Largest shield wins. But also be aware that the way crit functions with adlo and succor is different. Crit adlo = 2x crit value of shield. Crit succor = crit value of shield. So adlo that crits for 1000 will shield for 2000, succor crits for 1000 it shields for 1000 (figures chosen for clear demonstrative purpose, not reality).

Also as said above, Noct.AST shields will overwrite and galvanise effects. However if you are on SCH and you have a Noct.AST healing partner, well that one hell of a stupid ass AST. Slap them and tell them to stop being stupid. Noct.AST does not synergise with SCH at all and they should be in Diurnal sect.

Edit: ignore the stupid on succor overwriting adlo :) (was thinking about those silly astrologians always overwriting galvanise)

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Largest shield wins. But also be aware that the way crit functions with adlo and succor is different. Crit adlo = 2x crit value of shield. Crit succor = crit value of shield. So adlo that crits for 1000 will shield for 2000, succor crits for 1000 it shields for 1000 (figures chosen for clear demonstrative purpose, not reality). So this being the case, when you crit on an adlo, you do not want to overwrite it with succor. Basically you dont want to be overwriting adlo with succor at all if you can help it.

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It's literally impossible to override an adlo with a succor unless you were in cleric stance when you casted adlo or something, the bigger shield always stays. Good post otherwise though.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

It's literally impossible to override an adlo with a succor unless you were in cleric stance when you casted adlo or something, the bigger shield always stays. Good post otherwise though.

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Bleh brain fart, boxing day posting and alcohol O.o.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

It's literally impossible to override an adlo with a succor unless you were in cleric stance when you casted adlo or something, the bigger shield always stays. Good post otherwise though.

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Well, just to be contrary, (namely because it's at that point in the night where my brain is tired enough it wishes to point out random facts), you COULD override Aldo if it's taken enough damage that the Succor shield will be enough to be considered more than the remaining Aldo. From a fresh start on the other hand, it MIGHT be possible to use a Crit-Succor to override a non-crit Aldo if there is some sort of healing potency up on the target that got activated after the Aldo, but before the Succor......

Hey everyone, what's the protocol for being with another scholar, or is there any? How does Galvanize work in that case, like if I do Adlo on someone and Deployment Tactics, if the other SCH does Succor right after, would it overwrite my Adlo on everyone or same rule apply? Same with just regular Succor, if I apply it, and 5 seconds later another SCH does as well, does it restart the timer or how does that work? I haven't had any issues being with other Scholars but just curious. Thanks.

It will only overwrite if it's stronger. It will not renew the duration unless it's stronger, also.

Great thanks, what about overwriting my own Succor, does it have to be at a certain number before I can? Because I'll have 10 seconds left on Galvanize after doing Succor and I can recast it and I'm pretty sure it still applies to the people. Seems like only if Adlo is on someone, or if I've just done Succor then it won't. I was thinking maybe it had to be under 15 seconds left before it would renew the duration but haven't really tested it a ton. SCH is a lot more fun than I thought. I think it seems the hardest of the 3 healers as you have powerful healing when under Aetherflow but waste those 3 stacks and things can be pretty hard on yourself until they come back! (I just hit 58 so definitely better now).

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Originally Posted by 416to305

Great thanks, what about overwriting my own Succor, does it have to be at a certain number before I can? Because I'll have 10 seconds left on Galvanize after doing Succor and I can recast it and I'm pretty sure it still applies to the people. Seems like only if Adlo is on someone, or if I've just done Succor then it won't. I was thinking maybe it had to be under 15 seconds left before it would renew the duration but haven't really tested it a ton.

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You could have just tried it yourself in game or drawn the conclusion based on an earlier post that pretty much described the only rule tied to Galvanized effects:

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Largest shield wins.

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

You could have just tried it yourself in game or drawn the conclusion based on an earlier post that pretty much described the only rule tied to Galvanized effects:

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Hi there, I was actually replying to whiskeybravo.

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Originally Posted by 416to305

Hi there, I was actually replying to whiskeybravo.

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Oh, sorry I missed that. Nothing matters but the strength of the shield. Granted, I'm not exactly sure how ast/sch shields mix (I know they both don't stack, I assume though, that if an ast shield is stronger then it will overwrite sch shield and vice-versa).

The reason you sometimes see the shield overwrite and sometimes not is exactly because of the shield strength. There is like a 5% variation on heals/damage, so from time to time you may have a stronger shield on one person but a little bit less on someone else, when you recast Succor it overwrites the weaker shields but not the stronger ones, regardless of duration left on the original shield.

try to remain cool and collected if the tank pulls 3 seconds before your shield falls off also lmao.

especially when its an adlo crit. T_T

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Originally Posted by BlackenedTiamat

try to remain cool and collected if the tank pulls 3 seconds before your shield falls off also lmao.

especially when its an adlo crit. T_T

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You forgot adding when it is deployed too.

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(I just hit 58 so definitely better now).

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It has nothing to do with time left at all. And if you're having problem with healing without Aetherflow, you're not using Rouse enough and/or using any Fey abilities at all.

Galvanize gets re-/applied if there's no currently active Galvanize status to check, or if a Galvanize-applying heal has a larger amount of shielding to add than the currently active. If you use Adloquium and heal 1500 on a target with no Galvanize status, they gain Galvanize. If you use Adloquium on the same target with Galvanize still in effect and heal any amount over 1500, they gain a renewed Galvanize with the new amount overwriting the old amount. The same goes for Succor, except a critical heal with Succor does not double the shielding the healed target(s) gain(s).