So, what's everyone's take on this?
I for one, am very sad to see that they will essentially be axing the current plot in it's entirety as of version 2.0 with no way to replay it. At the same time I understand why, and even look forward to it - but I will still deeply miss the current world that Komoto and Tanaka envisioned.
As my highest rank is only 15 GLA/LNC (for combat), I guess it's time to just stop crafting and bust my butt leveling or something. I really, really want to see how this story arc plays out before they scrap it. Plus I'm going to remake my character as a Miqo'te Male when 2.0 comes out and start over with my friends I guess - maybe keep my current as a mule? Of course, that's provided I can get my buddies who are waiting on the updates to come to figaro...
So what's everyone else's feelings on this then? Personally, I would like it if SE could maybe release a DVD or something showing off the entire plot of this era, or otherwise include a way of viewing it in 2.0 without actually participating.
I'm also bothered by the recent changes to the music in the areas as well - why did they feel the need to just spit on Nobuo's hard work? I like the new Ul'dah theme, but I much prefer LL's old one, and a lot of the music in general - I felt that was one of the few areas they really got right and it seriously meant a great deal to me, as a long time FF Fan, to finally have Nobuo at the helm again.
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10-16-2011, 03:57 PMNefGPThe Seventh Umbral Era
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10-16-2011, 04:10 PMwhoopeeragon
Regarding music; It's merely the event that's running for the grand companies. It ends in two days times, so then (hopefully) the old music comes back in. I love the music as well, but again, this is all situational at the moment. Once it gets back to being usual stuff (i.e. events are relatively toned down) then the normal themes will be back. :D
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10-16-2011, 04:12 PMPlatinumstorm
World ends and you wake up from an "Echo".
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10-16-2011, 04:17 PMAnonymoose
You should know that very few of the "new" songs are actually new. Most of them are BY Nobuo Uematsu and have been in the game since the very first data mine back in Alpha. Recently, they've just radically changed when and where the music plays. Most of the songs were only heard once or twice EVER; during quests and inside certain instances.
If you feel that a lot of the music pales in comparison to Nobuo Uematsu's standard, it may just be that he's past his prime (DEARGODDON'THITME). -
10-16-2011, 04:19 PMquantumsaint
You know, I had very few qualms about the game originally. The UI lag and the non-searchable MW were the only things that bugged me. All I wanted was more content. Now this game is very different, and despite Yoshida saying he wouldn't do a wipe, making all our gear dated and removing physical levels was pretty much a rollback. I don't even want to know how many hours the people that developed the original crafting and repair systems put in, striving to make it as realistic as possible, only to have their work rendered pointless by replacing them with dark matter and nonsensical synths. Now it looks like it's going to be the same way for the story. What's the point of all the development done so far if it just gets wiped away? Seems kind of pointless to me. The past few days I've been trying to collect nodes I didn't have yet, but what's the point if they're just going to be gone in a year as well? I want to see the rest of the story, too. I got to rank - sorry, I mean level - 42 last night so I could see the second-to-last mission. I could have played all day today but since the v.2.0 announcement, my motivation to play has kind of waned. Sorry for the longish rant that really didn't go anywhere. Suffice it to say I'm going to miss Eorzea classic, hopefully someday we can have private servers or a time-progression server that lets people play the game as it was originally conceived.
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10-16-2011, 04:57 PMMicahZerrshia
Well I for one and glad I get to experience something that will never again happen in the game. My only concern is I wont be able to experience it all. I dropped my ls due to a combo of the group always being on vent, even when we are just standing around, and worse...drunk and on vent, and a lack of any activities so I have been stuck soloing my pug and con up via leves. With the search function broken for now and the severe lack of any /sh I find myself doing little to nothing, /sigh I hope I dont miss out
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10-17-2011, 02:57 AMNefGP
Again, I rather liked the original game as well, and feel like it just needed more time. It's got to be devastating to K&T, to see their vision, their baby, basically scrapped and completely remodeled.
Yeah it was kind of a pain carrying around so many items for repairs, but I liked the sort of realism it brought - along with the extra dependence on DoH & DoL classes, keeping them just as relevant as the DoW & DoM.
Honestly, I'm somewhat surprised they aren't going to just rollback our characters completely. It's going to be similar to FFXI all over again, when the JP had a 2-year head start on us NA players. It just seems so wrong, given the dramatic changes that are going to occur. I mean, what the hell? We're starting fresh in a new world - but with pre-leveled characters? What?
On the flipside, a wipe would really piss a lot of us off. I'm already kind of miffed that I'll be axing my character (largely because I can FINALLY play a Male kitty, something I've been waiting for since XI came out) though that doesn't bug me too much so long as I can transfer my gil etc etc (so I'd make a mule then delete the original character I guess idk). Never mind the effects this could have on the economy, though pre-established prices & standards could be a good thing.
It's all just a bit much to absorb at the moment. -
10-17-2011, 03:16 AMAlaltus
Just so people know cus its seems some missed this:
Its sad to see, but i'm looking forward to the new changes coming.Quote:
The new graphics engine will cause certain objects to display differently than they do in the current version. Because of this, we will allow all current players the opportunity to re-customize the race, gender, and appearance of their characters upon the implementation of the new engine.
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10-17-2011, 03:18 AMAntonnMore time to what, go bottom up?Quote:
Originally Posted by NefGP
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10-17-2011, 03:26 AMArk_mage2This would be amazing. It would actually explain a lot of new players, and allow for an amount of time to elapse between the seventh umbral era and whenever 2.0 takes place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinumstorm
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10-17-2011, 04:28 AMPowercowSo 2.0 would literally be waking up from a bad dream. An... interesting coincidence, if nothing else. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Platinumstorm
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10-17-2011, 04:37 AMPicoman
We will be experiencing the full story you are wanting.
Ever since Yoshi-P posted that poem everything to do with archons and umbral era has been to get to v2.0.
The end of that storyline is the beginning of v2.0. :D -
10-17-2011, 04:42 AMRazorNo, you wake up on an Imperial Juggernaut flying at a Mothership fighting dragon and.. oh wait. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Powercow
Until I hear an official announcement they are scrapping the entire storyline, I'm not going to be freaking out of my loins. It was to my understanding that the only "unrepeatable" part would be from here until 2.0 when the world undergoes ridiculous geographical changes. Of course I could be blind and completely confused on the storyline matter, that's entirely possible.
THAT BLOODY RED MOON DID THIS. -
10-17-2011, 05:05 AMNefGP
wait wait wait...
So I'll be able to completely remake my character and keep all my gear and stats? "Nefertina" isn't exactly a guy's name lol, but if I can change that along with gender etc etc... that's terrific! I don't have to restart at all then! -
10-17-2011, 08:40 AMGath
I just can't wait till Sephiroth throws Meteor at Gridania...
My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil. -
10-17-2011, 09:44 AMEmeraldHillSephrorith can't cast meteor, please try againQuote:
Originally Posted by Gath
My level 50 is worth more than you level 50. -
10-17-2011, 09:50 AMBadJoeRed
It was my understanding they were going to incorporate the new story with our old dying world. They mentioned that before 2.0 hits, we will be able to witness strange things happening to the world that will be exclusive to us PC players. I'm pretty sure the questlines/story will flow into one another.
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10-17-2011, 10:08 AMgrandm
from what i understand. the story that is released in the next patches leading up to 2.0 will only be playable by any1 that subscribes. i guess its a kind of insentive or treat for paying players. i for one am glad and can't wait to find out how the world ends. i also have my money on sephiroth. hey we have materia if any gets any black materia. don't give it to a strange man with a black cape and a very long sword :D
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10-17-2011, 11:03 AMAionAnyone saw FF XIV V2 comin on this question? and the Doomsday of Eorzea?Quote:
the last question of the Player’s Poll asks whether players would accept changes that “drastically alter the way we know Eorzea.”
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10-17-2011, 11:07 AMNarikoStarSeriously. I would lul so hardcore. +1 for best idea LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinumstorm
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10-17-2011, 11:50 AMNuruElezen Male: "Don't keep us in suspense, do tell us what may have happened?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Powercow
Hyur Male: "Whew, okay, okay... so get this.. at first, there were these squirrels, small as the eye can see! I could not seem to hit them at all! Miss, miss, miss, miss, and then whenever I finally landed a blow, i would get xp but wouldn't actually get it until the end of the battle!"
Miqo'te Female: "Ugh that sounds horrible! Like that blasted skill-up system in FFXI!"
Elezen Male: "Ah yes, indeed that does sound quite horrible, but DO go on.."
Hyur Male: "alright, so then the world started changing a bit, started noticing some new trends, and these coatees that were revealing when worn by females, Miqo'tes especially loved to flaunt them. I also noticed that I was able to land my attacks with much ease, and I would earn a set amount of xp per mob now."
Elezen Male: "That doesn't sound too bad.."
Hyur Male: "Forgot to tell you that I had to wait a few second after selecting a command, due to the horrible UI."
Female Miqo'te: "What the heck are you talking about?"
Hyur Male: "Something you are lucky never to have experienced. Imagine having a stamina bar that slowly refills and having to wait to use certain actions, even the basic attacks. I found myself waiting for a good 5 seconds one time for an opening to use a basic attack, just for the stamina to drop and have to wait even more."
Elezen Male: "I have heard of this before, how dreadful it must have been."
Hyur Male: "Yeah, and then after a few short months, I started attacking on my own! Uncontrollably! Best part is that I could use my skills whenever I wanted though, because there was no stamina bar! and then these instanced dungeons opened up around the same time.
Female Miqo'te: "That sounds strange, the world seems to be changing at an incredible rate it seems."
Hyur Male: "Oh heavens no, every day felt like a week, and every week felt like a month, every month felt like a year. Fellow adventurers all over the land would get feisty and threaten to (leave this world), The Twelve knows what they meant, but heaven forbid they were to leave, I wouldn't have minded too much."
Elezen Male: "Sounds like that time when the Empire wanted us to pay for every month we wanted to live."
Hyur Male: "Exactly! wait.. that was also part of the leve.. or.. dream. Whatever, that was when things were getting enjoyable! From that point on, it was great! I got the chance to experience something that this young lady will NEVER. GET. TO. :D"
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10-17-2011, 12:12 PMGathNever said Sephiroth could cast Meteor.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmeraldHill
My life is worth more than your life. -
10-18-2011, 02:39 AMDelmontyb
Back when I got into XIV (closed beta > open beta > live beta) I always had this feeling (at the world was very peaceful, there wasn't much sense of danger) that there was going to be a day when us old timers will talk about "remember the old eorzea"... I never expected the news last Friday, but I'm super excited. I've already started to see bits and pieces of the world start to change around me, and as time goes on I believe this will become more apparent. :)
I'm excited to be able to witness the destruction of Eorzea. :) -
10-18-2011, 02:50 AMStarlordExactly, This is the Prologue of how it all began, We witnessed it, we played it, and it seemed very peaceful. When you get to the R46 Mission you start actually seeing the Empire and now as the patches move onward they become more Violent, when they been quite for over 20 years. WHat have they been planning? Are they the Real Threat? NO sir they are not.. Primals hold the Enegry to which Eorzea holds this world afloat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delmontyb
This is like FF7 all over again with the Mako Reactors Drawling the life out of the Planet. This is the same Situation, only difference is the Empire is after it. As you witnessed, After the Ifrit Battle (easy mode) is the Empire's Judge ( what Im calling him lol) Says his Speech and destroys the Aether in which holds the Energy of the Primal. With that Disconnected from the world a part of the world is now Damaged.
Will we be able to stop them from destroying our Source that keeps us on this World?
Ready your arms men, Its time for War! Grand Companies Unite to Protect Eorzea! Protect our Land!
What will the Future be like... 11 months from now?..... Prepare yourself for the Darkness ahead... Twelve Speed be with you all.. -
10-18-2011, 02:59 AMCycloptichornUm. No, not so much.Quote:
Now this game is very different, and despite Yoshida saying he wouldn't do a wipe, making all our gear dated and removing physical levels was pretty much a rollback.
I thought removal of physical levels would piss me off, but it turns out that my guy is an unstoppable engine of doom now. -
10-18-2011, 03:14 AMquantumsaintI used to be able to solo NMs. Now I can't even take 1 hit from a leve mob on 5 stars. I went from an unstoppable engine of doom to a weak mage that can't even cure a party member once without being one-shotted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn
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10-18-2011, 03:21 AMCycloptichornYeah, that's pretty appropriate. Did you not realize that you're playing a Squishy? You're not supposed to be taking big hits as a mage. Not only that, but 5-star leves are meant to be done as a group - you aren't supposed to be doing them solo, so it's not surprising to hear that you are having a hard time dealing with the damage output.Quote:
Originally Posted by quantumsaint
I think what you're really complaining about is the removal of a broken and illogical system, and the implementation of a functional and logical system. -
10-18-2011, 03:32 AMUmJammerSully
I think the story and lore has some really cool elements but the method of storytelling is a complete wreck which ended up making it just tedious and for the first game in my entire life, I actually skip some paragraphs of dialogue because I have no idea what they're talking about.
The new devs are doing a better job but the material they were left to work with is almost unsalvagable. So I'm cautiously optimistic with how V2 will pan out story-wise and I'm glad it's getting a fresh start. The inclusion of more voice-acting has me very excited too, assuming they actually use half-decent VA's this time... -
10-18-2011, 03:44 AMquantumsaintI said I was in a party. And whether it was broken or not is a matter of debate, I think all they needed to do was remember your stat allocations when you changed classes. As for logic, tell me how it's more logical. To me, it seems like if you're swinging a sword all day, when you switch to a staff, you're naturally going to be stronger. If anything, the new system is more illogical. Where does all that progress we've made go when we switch between classes? Why am I able to deftly wield a sword and tank monsters one minute, but when I switch to a staff, I'm suddenly a weakling? That doesn't make any sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn
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10-18-2011, 04:01 AMCycloptichornPretty sure that's coming for 1.20.Quote:
I think all they needed to do was remember your stat allocations when you changed classes.
It's the tradeoff for being able to wield magic, which does tremendous damage and is really flexible. You shouldn't have both high HP and strength and be able to do so simultaneously; I even question allowing them to carry a shield, that sure as hell doesn't fit in with most rule sets.Quote:
Why am I able to deftly wield a sword and tank monsters one minute, but when I switch to a staff, I'm suddenly a weakling? That doesn't make any sense.
I guess the only other alternative would be to propose a system in which you couldn't change stats or jobs at all. Doesn't sound like much fun. That being the case, a system in which your stats adjust to the job you have at the moment is the most logical one. I would also point out that the stats were in large part broken before the last patch; also, are you putting materia in your armor to give yourself added defense or evasion, extra hp or vitality? Are you using Defender or Aegis Boon or Sentinel before popping your spells off? There are a lot of tricks for getting around big damage, if you use them... -
10-18-2011, 04:06 AMquantumsaint
I've been working on converting all my old gear into materia, not quite there yet. I appreciate your suggestions ^^ and respect your right to disagree with me, but since we've both been off-topic for a minute I'm going to stop now.
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10-18-2011, 04:10 AMMolly_Millions
Well once you get your good gear all slotted up with materia, you'll be almost unstoppable. It makes a HUGE difference. :P
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10-18-2011, 04:15 AMCycloptichorn
Yup, it does make a huge difference.
Re: the new storyline, and ending of the old one, I'm personally very excited to hear this. It means a gigantic chunk of new content! -
10-18-2011, 04:18 AMArcheustheWiseReminds me of chrono cross in a way. Lol.. Just.. in reverse. And your one of the few that remembers it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Powercow
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10-18-2011, 04:42 AMColdbrand
Here's hoping the new story involves a portal to Ivalice and Vana'Diel.