Dear devs,
Tempered Will doesn't remove Forgotten Wisent's heavy in The Diadem. It's even called "heavy." I know you like to break skills in raid content, but I would appreciate it if they worked in zerg content.
Love,
William "Oh no not this guy again" Brannigan
Tempered Won't
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11-26-2015, 04:45 AMBranniganTempered Won't
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11-26-2015, 04:57 AMFreyyy
Laughed at the pun
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11-26-2015, 05:03 AMBrannigan
Three minute cooldown
At last, a chance to use it!
Still moving slowly... -
11-26-2015, 08:08 AMFebrusThis all made me chuckle, including your signature lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brannigan
You're right though. It is a notoriously long CD with next to no utility (most Pld's get more use out of it in PvP than they ever do in PvE), so breaking it even further in specific instances seems ridiculous. It's like SE has written off the move or something. Like, "Meh, no one uses it anyway, so we'll just ignore it for future mechs." Not cool, SE. Not cool. -
11-26-2015, 09:06 AMRawrz
Can't be esuna'ed, leech'ed, exalted detriment'ed, fey caressed, nor prevented by wanderers paean. Not just a pally issue. #otherclassesthanjustpallygetscrewedbyirksomedebuffs
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11-26-2015, 11:38 PMSwordCoheir
I think the only time I've ever seen tempered will as useful, is for it's anti-knockback ability more than it's anti-heavy ability. Even then it's exceedingly situational as Leviathan and A3 N/S are the only instances I ever found it useful. Honestly though, I've noticed it's anti-heavy effects have become resisted more and more in later content similar to Shield Swipes pacification effect, unlike Pacification though, anti-heavy effects wouldn't be OP in any point of the game considering it's long cooldown.
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11-27-2015, 01:57 AMKhalitharYou can also use it on occasion to remove that stupid heavy effect some monsters put on you when you're running away from them while mounted. That really needs to be gone in the first place, but I digress.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwordCoheir
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11-27-2015, 02:35 AMReynhartBy the time you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalithar
- Dismount
- Use Tempered Will
- Kill the monster
- Wait for the game to register you're out of combat
- Summon your mount
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11-27-2015, 03:21 AMKabooaIt can be aetherial manip'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawrz
Like it doesn't remove it, but I still go the voom. -
11-27-2015, 03:26 AMMagiusNecrosHeavy don't mean crap because:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabooa
Rush To A Target Party Member's Side. Unable To Cast If Bound. -
11-27-2015, 03:50 AMKhalitharNot really. I just keep running, usually by the time the monster leashes and leave me alone I have 10-15 seconds left on the heavy and I'm out of combat. That's when I pop TW, remount, and go back on my way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reynhart
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11-27-2015, 08:03 AMSevyrr
"Removes Bind and Heavy"
...... about the only Bind that I've seen it get rid of at 50+ is the one from the Marlboro Alexandrite map. -
11-27-2015, 08:30 AMYonanja
Why can anyone still be surprised that the PLD skills don't actually do what the tooltips say they do?
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12-01-2015, 08:50 PMMrThermKill the monster...? If your on a mount, your going somewhere. Dont bother killing the mob, just temp will and pop sprint till it deaggros and pretend like it never happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reynhart
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12-02-2015, 04:09 PMSynestraIts not only TW that gets used alot in PvP compared to PvE, all PLD utilities shines in PvP even things like pasification from SS(well it got nerfed in pvp after patch due CD, rip 12s melee "silence" locking). Sometimes it feels that PLD is made more for PvP than PvE, i guess it makes sense as you start out as an gladiator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Februs
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12-03-2015, 10:15 AMSevyrr
... that is such a good point.
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12-03-2015, 12:54 PMSwordCoheir
That's because jobs have a much wider range of abilities that PLD can counter than most enemies you encounter in any raid. Most jobs have at least one form of stun and bind/heavy/slow that they will use regularly, players can be pacified/stunned/blinded constantly unlike 95% of raid mobs, and there's more targets and no threat management so PLD can actually utilize cover effectively. I mean that's over half our abilities right there and PLD barely get's to effectively use them in content.
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12-03-2015, 04:58 PMMaethusXionReminds me of the stupidity of paralysis being able to esuna'd/etc, but not pot'd off... seriously? Also, what's the use of an HQ pot, it does nothing? Unless I'm missing a reuse timer reduction...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawrz
Also Neverreap final boss, I use(d) it there the first time he does the knockbackQuote:
Originally Posted by SwordCoheir
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12-03-2015, 06:17 PMReynhartWith precise timing you can achieve the same effect as a DRK with...Plunge...and for each knockback...with added damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaethusXion
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12-04-2015, 02:09 AMRhajaIts one of the many reasons I decided to keep DRK as my main tank class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reynhart
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12-04-2015, 02:50 AMReynhartThat's also the proof that they could have given PLD approximately the same ability to counter knockback, but in a much more effective it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhaja
The tricky part is that Plunge needs a target, so, each time they would like to negate "Tempered Will", they could simply make you unable to select a target, instead of just bypassing the effect.
They could replace Tempered Will with the gap closer from the 1st boss of the Vault, Shield Bash included. -
12-05-2015, 08:13 PMBrannigan
I can see it now - Shield Charge: Closes the gap to your target and stuns them for 2s. 15 yalm range. Drains all TP. 7 minute cooldown.
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12-05-2015, 08:54 PMMagiusNecrosSounds like a horrible version of the Monk's Shoulder Tackle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brannigan
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12-05-2015, 10:50 PMTam_HawkinsQuote:
Originally Posted by Brannigan
= It will never be usedQuote:
Drains all TP
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12-06-2015, 01:55 AMKabooa
That's the joke guys.
That's the joke. -
12-06-2015, 03:02 AMLambdafishIt was the best thing ever in Titan (it works against landslide)Quote:
Originally Posted by SwordCoheir
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12-06-2015, 04:25 AMBrannigan
You know what else works against landslide? Stepping to the right. That doesn't even have a 3 min cooldown, you can do it as often as you want.
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12-07-2015, 05:14 AMSevyrr
The downside to stepping to the right comes into play with lag / bad play / panic / slow-as-hell reactions.
Tempered Will can help at least eliminate the middle, for one landslide. -
09-20-2016, 07:30 PMBrannigan
Hey this doesn't remove Brute Justice's bind either. I kept forgetting to test it out but last week I didn't use it on land mines and remembered. Pretty rude of you to lie to me like that devs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09-20-2016, 09:09 PMLyth
Looks like TW is going to be making a comeback in the next primal fight.
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09-20-2016, 11:02 PMLambdafishIf the boss isn't immune to itQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyth
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09-21-2016, 12:08 AMLyth
Given that TW is a self-target, I'm not really sure how boss immunity plays into it.
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09-21-2016, 03:15 AMUltimatecaliburIts more the various debuffs being immune to being cleansed by character abilities. Tempered Will and Elusive Jump are basically cleanses that only effect Bind/Heavy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyth
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09-21-2016, 03:57 AMLythAh. I wasn't referring to the cleanse effect, as I don't see that as the primary function. TW is the only way to negate knockback/draw-in effects without a target present on the battlefield. Everyone else is in for some sliding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur
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09-21-2016, 06:44 PMReynhartYou still have some knockback that can bypass Tempered WillQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyth