FFXIV donation instead of charging and loosing lots of players?

i know there is a lot of anger going around about charging us in a month or 2 to basically test the game until the huge changes in 2.0 (which itself look AMAZING to say the least)

Im personally upset about it and i know them charging early will pretty much garuntee a huge loss of players which in turn will make the servers feel really empty (and i really dont want that).

So SE, instead of saying "pay now for a new game next year", how about an optional donation system until 2.0 (which by then i will gladly pay) The people who truly support the game and its direction can pay using crysta any amount they want, whenever they want. This way the cough::beta testers::cough don't all leave the servers high and dry and you can still make money (though likey less of course).

anyone else agree? would you donate to the 2.0 cause?

i disagree, i'll pay for the subs.

Yeah, like,... because everybody would JUMP to be the first to pay money when they don't have to...

hell sure iam not gonna donate unless they implement faris wyvern that you can actually ride the sky and eat people who ride chocobo,s.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

i disagree, i'll pay for the subs.

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well thats fine, pay a subs amount if you want....thats the beauty of it. If you want to support them, more power to you, but if your like many of us on here, you dont think its smart to charge before a massive re-vamp, yet asking people to pay, they can stay in the game and be happy and pay when the time comes.

[SIZE="6"]LOSE. L-O-S-E![/SIZE]

Seriously, what is so difficult about spelling this word correctly? :mad:

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I plan on paying the subscription. I want Square-Enix to have money to make Version 2 the best it can be. If my money makes that possible, then that's what needs to be done.

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Originally Posted by Rinsui

Yeah, like,... because everybody would JUMP to be the first to pay money when they don't have to...

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Thats the thing, people wont, but their are people who will. WOuld they rather loose a huge portion of their playerbase and charge, or keep them all intrested until 2.0?

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

well thats fine, pay a subs amount if you want....thats the beauty of it. If you want to support them, more power to you, but if your like many of us on here, you dont think its smart to charge before a massive re-vamp, yet asking people to pay, they can stay in the game and be happy and pay when the time comes.

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i say it that way because of business point of view. is a business gaming industry, is not a permanent charity.

No. I think she means "loosing". Like in "loosening their chains that bind them to FFXIV". ^.^/

P.S.: So if you REALLY stayed around playing this broken, broken game as you claim it, simply because you are so charitable, SE offers you an excuse to finally rest your weary legs and leave.

Go now. You truly deserved a break.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

[SIZE="6"]LOSE. L-O-S-E![/SIZE]

Seriously, what is so difficult about spelling this word correctly? :mad:

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I plan on paying the subscription. I want Square-Enix to have money to make Version 2 the best it can be. If my money makes that possible, then that's what needs to be done.

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again, you can do that all you want without killing a good portion of the playerbase now. Pay as much as you want, when you want, or dont pay at all until 2.0. Keeps players in the game so they stay interested until them and people who really think they deserve the money can do so.

and yes, my bad on the lose/loose thing.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

i say it that way because of business point of view. is a business gaming industry, is not a permanent charity.

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what they are doing is having a large portion of their playerbase stop playing and possibly never come back after a year. Sounds like bad business to me when you have a good chunk still here and almost all willing to pay when its truly up to snuff in the 2.0

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

again, you can do that all you want without killing a good portion of the playerbase now. Pay as much as you want, when you want, or dont pay at all until 2.0. Keeps players in the game so they stay interested until them and people who really think they deserve the money can do so.

and yes, my bad on the lose/loose thing.

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so you';re expecting some fan to pay for you. that what i am looking at.

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Originally Posted by Zanfire

again, you can do that all you want without killing a good portion of the playerbase now. Pay as much as you want, when you want, or dont pay at all until 2.0. Keeps players in the game so they stay interested until them and people who really think they deserve the money can do so.

and yes, my bad on the lose/loose thing.

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The problem with that is that nobody is going to pay if you don't have to. Like, unless the people who pay get MASSIVE BENEFITS, not many people are going to be that caring. If they did this, it'd just a cash shop MMO, which I do not want at all. People initially bought this game expecting to pay a monthly fee, and were informed by the company that it would be free until further notice. This is that notice. We all knew it was coming. Honestly, whenever they decided to start charging, there would be people who had a problem with it.

And sorry if I came off as a dick about the lose/loose thing. For some reason, that stuff bothers me to no end.

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Originally Posted by neizero

So you want others to pay donations so you can play for free.

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noone should have to pay tbh, but giving an option for people who would does not sound as bad as losing a big portion of possible players because you wanted to charge while still in beta.

yea ok, i can see where this going anyway, and is not gonna happen.

they give us game and content,its up to us whether the fee is worth or not to experience the "unrepeateable" events in this game.

Wada said they have to charge now. Key word: "have."
So asking them to change it won't get anywhere.

What people don't seem to understand, at least from all the thread I've read is...

They are creating content between now and then to explain what happens to the world geographically when 2.0 hits.
This content will no longer be accessible after 2.0.
By paying the subscription fees between now and then, you are paying to, basically, play the prequel story line that most people will never get to experience themselves.

The devs do not have to spend their time and effort creating this content, which will never be accessible again, they could focus 100% on 2.0 and leave no logical explanation in-game of why the world changes. They have chosen to opt in favor of explaining the world changes with an in-game story, and THAT is what you will be paying a subscription fee for. The game system may be lackluster during this, but, again, you are paying to experience content that no one will ever experience again after 2.0.

I, personally, will be subscribed.

They should just sell vanity items like chocobo armor, mog hats ect till the game is ready to get some income.

Mathmatically it works out like this

X playerbase paying $0.00/mon= $0.00 income per month
(1/n)X playerbase paying $12.00/mo = $12.00(x/n) income per month

In conclusion: $12.00(x/n)/mo > $0.00/mo

No matter how drastically the playerbase falls, any number of subs paying > any number of subs not paying. Theyre planning on winning everyone back with 2.0 anyway so whats it matter. If zero people pay (wont happen) they can just close down the servers, save money, and put 2.0 out faster. For SE any outcome is a win.