Idea for 4.0 Healer Class

<two post due to 1000 character limit>

As we all know Yoshi P has stated he doesn't want to add classes mid x-pac again, and want to use classic jobs in new and interesting ways. So here is my idea for the next healing class

Time Mage :O

Yup a time mage would fit the bill (as Yoshi already did this for DRK and reserved former tank Samarai for a dps role). How you say? Well instead of healing like a White Mage or Scholar they would be 'healing' by reversing time to prevent that injury in the first place. This gives means two things. One their class special heal couldn't add regen or a shield effect (due to not actually healing) but their effect would be a temporal shift. This effect would cause the next hit to be a graze or glancing blow (next hit to be reduced by x% damage) due to the mob subconciously repeating the same portion of time.

Time Mage would also be able to remove status effects like White Breath (same reason, reversing time to prevent it instead of healing it by removal). To OP you say, well not really. As a balance they could only remove an effect for a certain period of time. In game terms this means a White Mage / Scholar can remove poison from the whole party but not white breath, where a Time Mage could remove white breath but poison from only HALF of the party (as too much time has passed and they cant reach that far back in time).

Their attack spell is already known I do believe, Water 1/2/3 :)

Thought? Comments? Also be sure to look out for my other two posts, the new 4.0 tank class RED MAGE :D:D:D and the first continental primal world boss fight.... DOOMTRAIN :D:D:D

IMO it's too close to AST. I'd like a completely different healer like chemist or dancer.

so basically, you want a SCH? lol.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

IMO it's too close to AST. I'd like a completely different healer like chemist or dancer.

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Yeah, AST has the Time Mage theme over already. I'm in for a less ethereal healer, like dancer and so on.

I want a "physical" healer. Dunno, a chemist throwing syringes at other players (mostly instant skills) or a melee healer that has to run to other party members to heal them...let's call the latter a physical therapist. But please no more mages! Amaze me, SE!

You seem to be doing this an awful lot. Just thought to let you know you can edit your existing posts to circumvent the 1000 char limit.

Time reversal and time magic isn't a new idea, but I'll ask you the same question as I did your RDM post. What is your idea of how it would fit in the current meta? The combination of hp buffers (with sch) and raw healing power (whm) was already augmented with a buff-focused and mobile (in a short burst) healer (AST). Even then, the AST still heals primarily through the SCH or WHM methods. I understand that you want a theme, and that it is more of a mitigation healer, but I don't know what hole it addresses.

Also, melee healers are just not going to work. Can you imagine having to work around a melee healer when they're dealing with a Judgment Nisi mechanic (like in Alex 4)? That healer is going to get kicked at least 9/10 attempts. It could still be a TP healer though but one that switches between melee and ranged combat (possibly a dancer using chakrams or their oversized cousins, the wind-and-fire wheels).

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Originally Posted by Anova

You seem to be doing this an awful lot. Just thought to let you know you can edit your existing posts to circumvent the 1000 char limit.

Time reversal and time magic isn't a new idea, but I'll ask you the same question as I did your RDM post. What is your idea of how it would fit in the current meta? The combination of hp buffers (with sch) and raw healing power (whm) was already augmented with a buff-focused and mobile (in a short burst) healer (AST). Even then, the AST still heals primarily through the SCH or WHM methods. I understand that you want a theme, and that it is more of a mitigation healer, but I don't know what hole it addresses.

Also, melee healers are just not going to work. Can you imagine having to work around a melee healer when they're dealing with a Judgment Nisi mechanic (like in Alex 4)? That healer is going to get kicked at least 9/10 attempts. It could still be a TP healer though but one that switches between melee and ranged combat (possibly a dancer using chakrams or their oversized cousins, the wind-and-fire wheels).

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thanks for the 1000 limit bypass. and honestly I never planned on posting these. a GM contacted me in game about another issue and this topic came up. They liked the idea and encouraged me to post it in this very area. The whole idea of these classes is to put them in new areas. As far as I know no healer can remove white breath. These guys could. White has regen, scholar shields, ast one of each (and cant remove white breath and has cards, maybe I dont play ast enough to see the time influence yet as their spells do heal and dont reverse it?), hense the "next attack does x% less damage" temporal healing effect. One very interesting (and very OP) talent they could have is this "-x%" buff could prevent a wipe, maybe as a consequence the time mage is dead for the rest of the fight (essentially granting the party a few vital seconds for the very close call fights?)

<this class was my least developed idea and submission>

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Originally Posted by Lastelli

I want a "physical" healer. Dunno, a chemist throwing syringes at other players (mostly instant skills) or a melee healer that has to run to other party members to heal them...let's call the latter a physical therapist. But please no more mages! Amaze me, SE!

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I wouldn't mind Chemist doing it that way. Would dye my alt's hair blue and make her Valentine from Skullgirls :P

http://i.imgur.com/zD6bZ85.gif

A not mage healer would be great though. Really hoping if Dancer makes it into FFXIV that it's a healer with inspirations from FFXI's version of the job. I loved stabbing things and curing people, would be a pain to balance though. But it would be really fun to play if it happens.

I don't want to discourage these class idea posts, but like others have said, Time Mage is sort of already done under the guide of Astrologian. I would encourage tracking along one of the yet-to-be-done jobs for ideas.

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Originally Posted by Lastelli

I want a "physical" healer. Dunno, a chemist throwing syringes at other players (mostly instant skills) or a melee healer that has to run to other party members to heal them...let's call the latter a physical therapist. But please no more mages! Amaze me, SE!

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That would so remind me of Alchemist/Biochemist/Creator from Ragnarok Online. I would love that.

Yeah at the moment the only thing we have are mage healers. So dancer and chemist come to mine maybe even necro/blood mage that it lol

Grabbed this from similar post in response to a "melee healer" xD

Maybe a melee healer with drg+ like defense. (Heal spells would still be ranged)
Ranged mode: below average Healer ranged dps using mp. Focus on single target healing bonus. Possibly less defense.

Melee: more potent dps form with attacks that use tp, focus on aoe healing bonus.


They could add a separate skill equivalent to cleric stance so whm wouldn't be a must for cross class and skills that drain tp for mp to heal with.

They would juggle mp/tp, ranged/melee stance, and a str/mind/(possibly int if the range stance swaps int/str.) cleric stance. :3 would be interesting

Yeah at the moment the only thing we have are mage healers. So dancer and chemist come to mind maybe even necro/blood mage that it. Lol the problem is the mechanics of gameplay not the lack of job and right now we really don't have much. Example we have white mage for raw healing, scholar that makes barriers, and Astro does both. We need a healer that uses TP to heal example Dancer or Chemist. We need a healer that heals using damage may something like Necro/Blood Mage use (Drain spells). And if square wants to be even more creative why not make a healer that has to attack party members to heal.( think of masures in Ff12) something like a Mathematecian) lore wise its already there ain't arcanima uses geometric shapes to use magice and geometry is math lol

A bard/machinist kind of healer throwing syringes at people would be just...just *dies*

Heals would be all instant but with less range so they would need to run around like crazy trowing syringes to heal people.
(Or maybe with less potency but more range?....no?.....ok)
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I like the idea of a melee healer. Something like an armored cleric smashing things with a mace and tossing out mitigation buffs, like a Paladin that focuses on heals rather than tanking. Give then stuns and interrupts to cover the utility the other healers lack.

If you want a new healing mechanic for tjis game EQ2 shamans specialty was reactive heals. In short youd place a buff with a short timer and a proc count (100% chance tho) that would go down every hit. So i.e. The adloq/aspected benefic slot heal would say apply a 10-30s buff that would heal for 150-200 potency heal for up to say 10-20 hits. Might be possible to use the concept with dancer.

Tho the syringe flinger sounds fun. Reminds me of the physician in rift, sryinge tipped arrows archer/healer... Mayble they could use a syringe launching crossbow! Also gives us another ranged weapon class...

Still kindof want dancer tho...

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Originally Posted by LegoTechnic

I like the idea of a melee healer. Something like an armored cleric smashing things with a mace and tossing out mitigation buffs, like a Paladin that focuses on heals rather than tanking. Give then stuns and interrupts to cover the utility the other healers lack.

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Like D&D/EQ Clerics and Warrior Priest from Warhammer. Me likes.

That physical healer has to be a hybrid and be able to go ranged or like someone says, something like judgement nise pops up and those kind of healers will be kicked 100% of the time.

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Originally Posted by Aomine1992

That physical healer has to be a hybrid and be able to go ranged or like someone says, something like judgement nise pops up and those kind of healers will be kicked 100% of the time.

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Maybe take the Wanderer's Minuet/Gauss Barrel mechanic and create a mode that adds a cast time to skills but turns off auto-attack. Have it turn skills ranged and you have another new mechanic made from a pre-existing one, though also penalize it by taking away a minor buff or something. It would be something new, versatile, and also slightly inferior to the class's melee game but not enough to discourage its use.

I'm also a fan of player-centric auras, which the game has only dabbled in. There are ground-targetted auras like Sacred Soil, but the only player aura is AST's and it's a channeled ability, so an actual aura mechanic would be similarly "fresh-but-not-really".

Though all I really want is to see a healer that can wear something other than cloth. >_>;

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Originally Posted by Muahbec

A bard/machinist kind of healer throwing syringes at people would be just...just *dies*

Heals would be all instant but with less range so they would need to run around like crazy trowing syringes to heal people.
(Or maybe with less potency but more range?....no?.....ok)
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So like the Chemist job in previous Final Fantasy games? :3

Time Mage should be caster dps. Rememeber in past FF games Time Mage had spells like Demi/Quake/Meteor/Gravity/Stop/Banish/X-Zone/Slip/Comet. they had some support spells too like Regen/Refresh/Haste/Slow, but those could be retooled to recover MP, and boost spellspeed or slow/gravity targets. Even Old, which could be like SMN's Virus. LB3 could be Time Compression (since BLM's have Meteor).


Just not sure what kind of weapon they'd use. I want to say maces/clubs but since mages don't melee in this game really, it wouldn't make a lot of sense. They would have to make a new type of Sundial/Hourglass/Chronometer something. They could use Astrolabes which are bit different than Starglobes.