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    Idea for 4.0 Healer Class

    <two post due to 1000 character limit>

    As we all know Yoshi P has stated he doesn't want to add classes mid x-pac again, and want to use classic jobs in new and interesting ways. So here is my idea for the next healing class

    Time Mage :O

    Yup a time mage would fit the bill (as Yoshi already did this for DRK and reserved former tank Samarai for a dps role). How you say? Well instead of healing like a White Mage or Scholar they would be 'healing' by reversing time to prevent that injury in the first place. This gives means two things. One their class special heal couldn't add regen or a shield effect (due to not actually healing) but their effect would be a temporal shift. This effect would cause the next hit to be a graze or glancing blow (next hit to be reduced by x% damage) due to the mob subconciously repeating the same portion of time.

    Time Mage would also be able to remove status effects like White Breath (same reason, reversing time to prevent it instead of healing it by removal). To OP you say, well not really. As a balance they could only remove an effect for a certain period of time. In game terms this means a White Mage / Scholar can remove poison from the whole party but not white breath, where a Time Mage could remove white breath but poison from only HALF of the party (as too much time has passed and they cant reach that far back in time).

    Their attack spell is already known I do believe, Water 1/2/3

    Thought? Comments? Also be sure to look out for my other two posts, the new 4.0 tank class RED MAGE and the first continental primal world boss fight.... DOOMTRAIN
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    Last edited by Thaeros; 10-27-2015 at 05:17 AM.

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    IMO it's too close to AST. I'd like a completely different healer like chemist or dancer.
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    so basically, you want a SCH? lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    IMO it's too close to AST. I'd like a completely different healer like chemist or dancer.
    Yeah, AST has the Time Mage theme over already. I'm in for a less ethereal healer, like dancer and so on.
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    I want a "physical" healer. Dunno, a chemist throwing syringes at other players (mostly instant skills) or a melee healer that has to run to other party members to heal them...let's call the latter a physical therapist. But please no more mages! Amaze me, SE!
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    You seem to be doing this an awful lot. Just thought to let you know you can edit your existing posts to circumvent the 1000 char limit.

    Time reversal and time magic isn't a new idea, but I'll ask you the same question as I did your RDM post. What is your idea of how it would fit in the current meta? The combination of hp buffers (with sch) and raw healing power (whm) was already augmented with a buff-focused and mobile (in a short burst) healer (AST). Even then, the AST still heals primarily through the SCH or WHM methods. I understand that you want a theme, and that it is more of a mitigation healer, but I don't know what hole it addresses.

    Also, melee healers are just not going to work. Can you imagine having to work around a melee healer when they're dealing with a Judgment Nisi mechanic (like in Alex 4)? That healer is going to get kicked at least 9/10 attempts. It could still be a TP healer though but one that switches between melee and ranged combat (possibly a dancer using chakrams or their oversized cousins, the wind-and-fire wheels).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anova View Post
    You seem to be doing this an awful lot. Just thought to let you know you can edit your existing posts to circumvent the 1000 char limit.

    Time reversal and time magic isn't a new idea, but I'll ask you the same question as I did your RDM post. What is your idea of how it would fit in the current meta? The combination of hp buffers (with sch) and raw healing power (whm) was already augmented with a buff-focused and mobile (in a short burst) healer (AST). Even then, the AST still heals primarily through the SCH or WHM methods. I understand that you want a theme, and that it is more of a mitigation healer, but I don't know what hole it addresses.

    Also, melee healers are just not going to work. Can you imagine having to work around a melee healer when they're dealing with a Judgment Nisi mechanic (like in Alex 4)? That healer is going to get kicked at least 9/10 attempts. It could still be a TP healer though but one that switches between melee and ranged combat (possibly a dancer using chakrams or their oversized cousins, the wind-and-fire wheels).
    thanks for the 1000 limit bypass. and honestly I never planned on posting these. a GM contacted me in game about another issue and this topic came up. They liked the idea and encouraged me to post it in this very area. The whole idea of these classes is to put them in new areas. As far as I know no healer can remove white breath. These guys could. White has regen, scholar shields, ast one of each (and cant remove white breath and has cards, maybe I dont play ast enough to see the time influence yet as their spells do heal and dont reverse it?), hense the "next attack does x% less damage" temporal healing effect. One very interesting (and very OP) talent they could have is this "-x%" buff could prevent a wipe, maybe as a consequence the time mage is dead for the rest of the fight (essentially granting the party a few vital seconds for the very close call fights?)

    <this class was my least developed idea and submission>
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    Olwen Mercier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    I want a "physical" healer. Dunno, a chemist throwing syringes at other players (mostly instant skills) or a melee healer that has to run to other party members to heal them...let's call the latter a physical therapist. But please no more mages! Amaze me, SE!
    I wouldn't mind Chemist doing it that way. Would dye my alt's hair blue and make her Valentine from Skullgirls :P



    A not mage healer would be great though. Really hoping if Dancer makes it into FFXIV that it's a healer with inspirations from FFXI's version of the job. I loved stabbing things and curing people, would be a pain to balance though. But it would be really fun to play if it happens.
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    I don't want to discourage these class idea posts, but like others have said, Time Mage is sort of already done under the guide of Astrologian. I would encourage tracking along one of the yet-to-be-done jobs for ideas.
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    Sora Kysuke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    I want a "physical" healer. Dunno, a chemist throwing syringes at other players (mostly instant skills) or a melee healer that has to run to other party members to heal them...let's call the latter a physical therapist. But please no more mages! Amaze me, SE!
    That would so remind me of Alchemist/Biochemist/Creator from Ragnarok Online. I would love that.
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