For the TL;DR:Our Mission: As many of you have noticed, the economy is FFXIV has been absolutely horrific and continues to grow more so with this new patch. This is especially bad for new players which are now arriving in truck loads. If we want the community to grow we need to take care of our new players. By working together, as a linkshell and by combining efforts with other communities, we can make the wards work for us and the new comers.
To join forces and fix Besaid Economy.
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What we need: At a minimum we need 3 volunteers from each Disciple of the Hand and Disciple of the Land professions to pioneer efforts in each city-state. We will work together to come up with appropriate and affordable prices for each crafted tool and gathered item. If you’re interested in joining us, please send an email to contactus@sanctusrefero.com
In order for this to work properly, we need to be in open communication to agree on what to sell and how much to sell it for. We can do this folks!
~*If you are in another LS or another Group within FFXIV, please spread this among them*~
See: Kara Mishtan’s Growing list of revised recipe’s and items. [link forthcoming]
Special Thanks to: Galvadan and Kara
Current Participants
Melchar Asbrand
ARM•GLD•MIN•BTN
Galvadan Edgecrusher
BSM
Kara Mishtan
WVR
Sterne Evans
CUL•BTN
Collan Rosvenir
CRP • BSM •ARM•GLD•TAN•WVR•ALC•MIN•BTN
Kai Faust
CRP•ARM
Thevedis Foxbat
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Garento Barueto
CRP• BSM• ARM• GLD•TAN• WVR•ALC•MIN•BTN
Nanami Takanaru
CRP•GLD•ALC•MIN•BTN•FSH
Arnoulf Fanghorn
MIN•BTN•FSH
Chloe Ardarose
CUL•BTN
Alona Rhys
CRP•BSM•GLD•WVR•ALC•CUL•MIN•BTN•FSH
Swanson Wyversbane
BSM•ARM•WVR•ALC•MIN•BTN•FSH
Aerath Ineya
CRP•BSM•ARM•GLD•TAN•ALC
Nayade Valefor
CRP•BSM•ARM•GLD•TAN•WVR•ALC•CUL
Ezrail Asura
WVR•BTN•FSH
Dow Support
Esk Ntania
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How we can fix the Economy
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10-12-2011, 01:17 AMSterneHow we can fix the Economy
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10-12-2011, 09:55 AMTheVedis
Im willing to help with whatever
im already massively undercutting everything in the market cuz lets face it
PRICES RIGHT NOW ARE TOTALY RETARDED
just fyi, im 50 everything but fishing(which is 47) and i do a bit of everything so im pretty involved in it all -
10-12-2011, 12:42 PMThatch
Well, that sounds like a great idea. I just came back from a long hiatus, and only have 17 CRP and 14 ARM, but would be glad to make as much low level items as I can to support the higher level crafters. I'm also planning on leveling CRP up rather quickly a long with botanist.
EDIT: Kai Faust is my character :) -
10-13-2011, 01:16 AMSterne
Thank you guys so much! I'll add your names to the official listing once I get back home this afternoon.
Once we have enough people to make an impact, we'll start organizing all of our efforts! Hopefully together we can make some changes. :D -
10-13-2011, 01:37 AMAamesxDavid
I <3 Sterne. That is all.
Wait, that's not all.
- CRP 28
- BSM 27
- ARM 27
- GLD 26
- TAN 27
- WVR 28
- ACL 25
- MIN 33
- BTN 33
I've been making all the new tools for mid-level DoH/DoL. I've been putting the mid-20 tools up for 20k in the Ul'dah wards, which I think is way under what most people seem to be charging for new things.. but if anyone needs anything specific, just let me know. Unless they're super rare, I don't care if you have the materials, and I don't need money for them. Just want to level my crafts and help others do so. :) -
10-13-2011, 02:51 AMEsk
Prices are starting to Drop, but are ridicules atm, but i'm not a crafter at all so, I'm happy to collect items for people if needed.
Not exactly the same as helping with the market, but if something is lala price but dropped by a sub Lv40 mob (if you don't know just ask) and don't have the mindset/time to farm I can look into helping people and setting a more sensible price arranged or something like that.
I dont play a huge amount but still.. its an offer.
As it might help newer people looking to help bring market prices down to a sensible level.
Contact Via: http://caramel.enjin.com/profile/204851 -
10-14-2011, 12:30 AMSterne
I've just moved back to my folks home and my internet card pretty much died last night and, of course, parental enmity (lmao). There should be a new one in the mail today, so I will definitely follow up on those who volunteered and the one dude who messaged me in game while I was dying to the Ogre O:
<3 You all. -
10-15-2011, 10:02 AMEdgecrusher
I hope alot of the people of besaid's server really get on board with this...as for myself i'm going to try as best i can to rank blacksmithing to a higher level and be of better benefit.
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10-15-2011, 11:29 PMSterne
Changed around the format to reflect the disciples our volunteers are capable of working with.
Thank you all for your support, but we still need more people to make an impact! Please spread the word! -
10-26-2011, 11:58 AMTheVedis
i worked at it a few days and purposely bombed the prices on felt so that its affordable
now got it going for 20k or so a piece instead of the 100k it was going for
it actualy costs more to make now(cuz of fleece prices which i refuse to farm) then it does to buy it -
10-26-2011, 12:55 PMGeesus
This is what the game needs more of! Our LS Otogi Bank has a ton of crafters and are already attempting to do this as well. I'm even putting Level 1-20 gear up for leses than the NPC Guild prices as even those are crazy high!
We have seen prices in quite a few things begin to drop and I'm using it to help low level players find gear at a decent price since most of the items don't exist or to bring the prices down.
Keep up the great work Besaid! -
10-27-2011, 03:45 PMYves
Try checking the LL wards for cheap gear as I will start churning out higher rank gear for cheap (along with lower gear on request.) I'm on-board with the movement but unionizing, while done with good intentions, ultimately creates a greater evil - history shows us this.
Great concept and keep an eye out in LL for shouts and cheap gear in the wards. -
10-27-2011, 04:08 PMJinrya-Geki
Boycott the Market Wards.
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10-30-2011, 10:01 PMKarleguarth
I'm very pleased to see such an act even though I'm not playing in your server. (I'm in Karnak)
And yes, we also have the problem of sellers setting prices which the players who use that gear/material at the specific rank cannot afford. Some are even ridiculously priced which is more expensive than NPC selling price.
In short, new players in our server will have to complete leves at least for 20 times to buy an single item, in case that he/she doesn't sell anything.
I'll certainly join this act if you're planning to make it game-wide.
I have every DoH classes except armoror at 31-40, DoHs at 40+
And my general rule for setting price for gears is level x 1000 of the item. -
11-02-2011, 07:45 AMYvesNo. OCCUPY Market Wards!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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11-02-2011, 07:51 AMirongripz
AH there i fixed it..
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11-02-2011, 08:54 AMEdgecrusherQuote:
Originally Posted by Karleguarth
If the same thing is going on on your or any other server for that matter...i say impliment it there as well. People should be picking servers imo for reasons such as "well i have a ton of friends on server X or Y" or "I hear besaid is an RP server i'd like to try RP out." Not "well i know a red colbalt cuirass is like 3 mil on server X...on Y it's half that." even trying to type that made me cringe. If alot of people on other servers started it too, who knows maybe a trend will start. the pricing on alot of the servers is just outlandish, and together let's say if people from the different servers got a dialouge going about what seems reasonable i'm sure the prices could be cost effective without killing new players and not encouraging new subs...or having people who have played for the past year from pouring out tons of money and thinking the only way to recoup is to price through the roof..and in essence continuing the cycle. i imagine we could even start a thread on it in general topics to keep in contact... -
11-02-2011, 03:32 PMTheVedis/facepalmQuote:
Originally Posted by Yves
we do not need an in game version of whats probly the MOST RETARDED protest in the history of the world.... -
11-02-2011, 03:50 PMYvesThank goodness somebody else agrees. As with all things, a great idea got screwed over by dirty hippies.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVedis
On-topic, I been driving down prices rapidly in Uldah and suggest we make a concerted effort to start stocking LL and Gridania. If we don't branch out our efforts, Uldah will continue to be absurdly overcrowded and overpriced.
Also very open to ideas on how to drive down materia prices, as well.
P.S. - Mel Gibson wants his nipples rubbed. -
11-02-2011, 04:16 PMBetelgeuzahThis is the funniest thing I've read in ages.Quote:
As many of you have noticed, the economy is FFXIV has been absolutely horrific and continues to grow more so with this new patch. This is especially bad for new players which are now arriving in truck loads.
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11-02-2011, 05:46 PMLebannen
I think ill suggest this in my LS. I dont craft much myself but others do. Im on another server but your idea is just as viable for the other servers.
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11-08-2011, 07:31 PMKRoseWhat's so funny about it? It's actually pretty accurate here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah
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11-08-2011, 10:15 PMirongripz
AH+mailbox=fixed
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11-08-2011, 10:20 PMBetelgeuzahThe economy is booming and full of opportunities to make profit. Consumables of all kind are filling the retainers ever since 1.19 and it's only going to get better. Only alchemy and cooking are in a bad condition still but that's because they aren't going to get fixed before 1.20.Quote:
Originally Posted by KRose
"What is there to fix?" would be my question here. -
11-09-2011, 04:26 AMKiranHow would an AH 'fix' anything? It wouldn't, there's your answer. The economy is player driven, prices are set at what the player base is willing to pay. If people weren't buying it at those prices, then prices would come down. Whether it's a market ward with search or an auction house, you can't 'fix' player greed by changing the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by irongripz