Will Que as multiple job ever be implemented?

I think this will fixed the slow and awful Que time, especially for low level Contents if we are able to Que as multiple Job. EG; Que as both Tank, Healer, or all Job Tank, Healer, DPS.

This will not only fixed the shorted of Tank and Healer, but it also speed up the Que time. In a game such as Final Fantasy where the key Features is level multiple job as once, but not able to Que as multiple job is really dissatisfying. I know many people who can play multiple job real well, such a shame they cannot que for multiple job at once.


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As nice as it would be, I honestly see it being terribly abused by people who when the queue pops on a role they don't want, they go in and instantly exit or troll, or if it's not properly implemented you get a MNK showing up in a tank slot.

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Originally Posted by ForsakenScholar

As nice as it would be, I honestly see it being terribly abused by people who when the queue pops on a role they don't want, they go in and instantly exit or troll, or if it's not properly implemented you get a MNK showing up in a tank slot.

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They'd merely have to implement a lock that won't allow you to accept the queue until you're on the class/role it's selected for you to enter as.
Many other MMO's have this set up already; WoW, Tera, Rift, and RO2 to name a few off the top of my head. :)

I'd definitely be for this, cause it wouldn't lock me out of being able to still focus on a particular class if I'm levelling that one. Just give me more options when I'm running for the roulettes.

I surely hope so. I've been trying to level LNC for its cross-class abilities, but the DPS queues are long. I'm also finishing off AST and trying to go back into old content as a level 60 MCH...needless to say, I can only do one at a time. It would be helpful if I could queue for my low-level dungeon as LNC, HW dungeons as AST and a tome-grinding dungeon as MCH and just take whichever pops first. As of now, I have to just decide whether or not my LNC queue time justifies what I'm trying to do with it, or if I want to just finish leveling a class I actually like and get my skills later.

Er, no offense to those that love LNC.

Not asking for super complicated, but like Kalsam mention work like Rift where you can Que for an Instance with Multiple Job. Like I want to que for CT with Tank, DPS, and Healer at once and whatever it pop, you have to switch to that job in need. Would drastically help the que time. SE forcing people to do low level content is just a temporarily band aids and won't work well in the long run.

So.. queue as tank, healer or dps... isn't that the same as Queue as Tank? xD.

And for the Need to change to certain role as you queue, well that's already in the game with jobs, if you queue as Dragoon and do fates with WHM when it pops you need to change to Dragoon again to enter.

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Originally Posted by Kathyz

So.. queue as tank, healer or dps... isn't that the same as Queue as Tank? xD.

And for the Need to change to certain role as you queue, well that's already in the game with jobs, if you queue as Dragoon and do fates with WHM when it pops you need to change to Dragoon again to enter.

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No, it's not the same. Like an example I want to Que for a Dungeon as a Tank, DPS, and Healer Role because I can play all this Job. And whatever job in need it will pop, then I will switch to that Job and get me in the Instances.

Right now, for all Contents you can only Que as a Tank, DPS, or Healer. You cannot Que for it as multiple job.

I support this.

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Originally Posted by Tisharu

No, it's not the same. Like an example I want to Que for a Dungeon as a Tank, DPS, and Healer Role because I can play all this Job. And whatever job in need it will pop, then I will switch to that Job and get me in the Instances.

Right now, for all Contents you can only Que as a Tank, DPS, or Healer. You cannot Que for it as multiple job.

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I think what Kathyz is trying to say is that if you queue for all jobs you're more than likely just going to have to tank it. Just like now, where if you want a fast queue then you'll queue as tank.

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Originally Posted by coldheart21

I think what Kathyz is trying to say is that if you queue for all jobs you're more than likely just going to have to tank it. Just like now, where if you want a fast queue then you'll queue as tank.

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You... i like you for that xD

Yeah, I totally support this. It happens so many times that I see the tank AiN and queue as tank but nothing starts then I change healer and it pops instantly.

The reason people don't queue as tanks isn't because they can't queue as multiple jobs, but rather the risk vs. reward isn't worth it. It's stressful as a tank and to motivate people to queue despite that, there need to be rewards to tip the scales of the risk/reward ratio.

I think this feature is a great idea and I would use it for sure, but I don't think in and of itself it will help much with the tank shortage. Players with access to tanks who don't queue as them will keep not queuing as them despite this system, unless there is something to motivate them otherwise.

I would say, if this feature was added, that a role roulette feature also be included, with bonus tomestones rewarded at the end of the duty. This would motivate more of those with tanks to use them, as the extra rewards would be worth the added stress of the role (mind you, the adventurer in need could also be adjusted to do something similar. If it rewarded a good amount of extra tomestones instead of gil, I would tank in duties almost exclusively. As it is now, my mch gets all my time).

Semi-related, but I kind of wish we could queue for multiple roulettes at once >_> as in, queue for trials, expert and high level and get whichever pops first.

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Originally Posted by Tisharu

No, it's not the same. Like an example I want to Que for a Dungeon as a Tank, DPS, and Healer Role because I can play all this Job. And whatever job in need it will pop, then I will switch to that Job and get me in the Instances.

Right now, for all Contents you can only Que as a Tank, DPS, or Healer. You cannot Que for it as multiple job.

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Yes, but the role that pop up first will be to 95% a tank. So just queue as a tank will give the same result.

Would definitely want this, don't think it'd be that difficult to implement either besides the HUD.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Yes, but the role that pop up first will be to 95% a tank. So just queue as a tank will give the same result.

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Exactly, THIS.
Because even if you have the option to chose, 80% of the player will still only list themself as DD to the que.
In WoW:WoD i played Warrior and leveled him from 1-100 as Tank and DD. Well I'd say, 99% of the invites has been as Tank. I could just have let the DD part unchecked, you won't get an invite as DD as long as you have Tank chosen.

Agree with Kathyz, haha. But to queue as multiple job is still necessary for people who don't play tank.
By the way I want to queue while my chocobo is summoned ; ;

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Originally Posted by Kalsam

They'd merely have to implement a lock that won't allow you to accept the queue until you're on the class/role it's selected for you to enter as.
Many other MMO's have this set up already; WoW, Tera, Rift, and RO2 to name a few off the top of my head. :)

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But with RIFT you could switch after entering the dungeon. Take the support role, support was not needed in 5 mans, in fact it made the run slower and harder. So you queued as support and instantly switched to a DPS soul after entering. You were expected to.

I wouldn't be against it but I also don't see it picking up the wait time cus those who do not wish to tank will just not tick the tank option, myself included. We have no incentive really at the risk of being yelled at or made fun of, even kicked for a simple mistake. At least as a dps/healer a mistake is not as noticeable.

I agree that just adding the system to choose a class to enter as wouldn't be enough, but a Role Roulette would probably make it worth it, and that Roulette would give an additional bonus for going. Like for example it becomes a checkmark on Levelling Roulette and you get a bonus of tomes AND XP no matter what class and dungeon is chosen (even if it's not a level-cap class, which is the usual requirement) OR by doing Role Roulette, you'd get an experience reward on all similar unlocked classes (so say I queue in and I get in as my Level 60 WHM for say a trial roulette. Because I still need to level SCH and AST, I'd get a token amount of XP for those roles as well.) Probably wouldn't be so simple to implement and balance, but something like that would be awesome... I hate having to choose between advancing end game and levelling, particularly with the Relic steps... I'd much prefer to being able to level up an alt class while also progressing with end game stuff - even if they do it at a reduced rate from using your main class.

Would also be nice if we could pick a specific job for each instance we checkmark. For example, at the beginning of the week I toss A1-A4 into queue all at once, and since my main is tank that's usually what I play. However, A2 is just a shitfest for tanks (and really fun for DPS) so I'd rather queue dps for that. So my duty finder would look like this:
Fist of the Father (DRK), Cuff of the Father (SMN), Arm of the Father (DRK), Burden of the Father (DRK).

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

But with RIFT you could switch after entering the dungeon. Take the support role, support was not needed in 5 mans, in fact it made the run slower and harder. So you queued as support and instantly switched to a DPS soul after entering. You were expected to.

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We don't have a support role, and currently cannot change jobs while in a dungeon, so that is kind of a moot point. :P
But I agree that it is done in Rift, a lot. Unless the Support is a new player and doesn't have other souls set up. But that's typically only seen in the really low levels.

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Originally Posted by ArcticFang

Would also be nice if we could pick a specific job for each instance we checkmark. For example, at the beginning of the week I toss A1-A4 into queue all at once, and since my main is tank that's usually what I play. However, A2 is just a shitfest for tanks (and really fun for DPS) so I'd rather queue dps for that. So my duty finder would look like this:
Fist of the Father (DRK), Cuff of the Father (SMN), Arm of the Father (DRK), Burden of the Father (DRK).

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Would be too complicated to code. It'd be nice, but I'd rather not overwork the system with that regardless.


Many keep thinking that it wouldn't really work cause those whom queued as Tank would just get that. But as one person pointed out, even with the AiN as tank... they'd get a faster queue on healer.

If you're levelling, chances are you're actually queuing specifically. As the chance of getting something like Satasha or Tam Tara for levelling roulette is too high. Which isn't worth it if you're grinding via dungeons. (Which only those who are tired of FATEs will do, on a DPS class anyway. Queue times are fast enough to make it worth dungeon grinding for tanks and healers.)

This really only impacts the ROULETTE... which is fine, imo. Cause if you're running roulette, more often than not you're running it for the rewards, not the experience. And having multiple people queuing for multiple roles will actually bring down the percentage of the time it ends up being tank. Many times I'd queue as Tank/Heal or Tank/DPS on my Paladin in WoW and it was about 50-50 on which I'd get. (But then, I played Horde on the highest population data center... which may have made a difference. But I cannot say for certain as I don't have any way to confirm.)

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Yes please, I'd love to see this implemented!

This might sound a bit silly, but personally I have a tough time forcing myself to queue as a tank specifically - my anxiety tends to get the best of me at times, so I sometimes just get intimidated and end up avoiding roulette-ing my tank altogether... Having a system where I can just toss in multiple jobs/roles and leave it up to chance would lift a bit of the pressure off for me, and certainly make me more likely to fill in as a tank (or occasionally something else) based on what's needed at the time.

I fail to see the point of this. If you queue for tank + dps, you're gonna tank. If you queue heal + dps, you're gonna heal. If you queue tank + heal, you're probably gonna tank.

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Originally Posted by pushin_tin

I fail to see the point of this. If you queue for tank + dps, you're gonna tank. If you queue heal + dps, you're gonna heal. If you queue tank + heal, you're probably gonna tank.

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That relates to what others were getting at earlier - by giving players the ability to queue as multiple (or all) roles, the chance of getting queued as a tank vs. other roles /could/ go some way to evening out more regularly. I'm not sure how much of an effect it would have in practice, since there's likely always going to be more tanks and heals in need than DDs, but it's likely to have some level of impact on who gets put where.

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Originally Posted by ArcticFang

Would also be nice if we could pick a specific job for each instance we checkmark. For example, at the beginning of the week I toss A1-A4 into queue all at once, and since my main is tank that's usually what I play. However, A2 is just a shitfest for tanks (and really fun for DPS) so I'd rather queue dps for that. So my duty finder would look like this:
Fist of the Father (DRK), Cuff of the Father (SMN), Arm of the Father (DRK), Burden of the Father (DRK).

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You would probably never see A2 until you finished the other three.