Can more SE affiliated Music Composers contribute with music to this game?

I was going through the game now enjoying alot of Sokens work and even the other composers who are currently involved working on this project.

It hit me that it would really be amazing to have multiple composers to give their wonderful touch to this game. Composers from FFXI, Nier or how about Yasunori Mitsuda contributing with something? =)

Is is the price that they charge thats preventing them or Yoshi P really wants a close circle? Different composers can give a different feel and touch to the game.

Just random thoughts in my head. I wonder if this can even be possible?

Soken is currently not only the only composer, but also the Sound Director. He may be working himself gaunt with the amount of work a solo composer has on a project like this, but my understanding is that if he wanted to, he could reach out to other S-E composers like he did for the 1.X soundtrack. He's done a pretty good job keeping things varied on his own so far, though. Maybe he's enjoying himself?

I dunno. I think he did an amazing job with Heavensward imo. It wouldnt hurt to see what others can contribute with aswell thats all. Many SE music composers are amazing so having their touch to contribute with a song or two wouldnt hurt :)

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Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Composers from FFXI, Nier or how about Yasunori Mitsuda contributing with something? =)

Is is the price that they charge thats preventing them or Yoshi P really wants a close circle? Different composers can give a different feel and touch to the game.

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The only FFXI composer who actually hasn't already contributed to FFXIV's OST is Kumi Tanoika, as both Nobuo Uematsu and Naoshi Mizuta have worked on numerous tracks for FFXIV already. SOken might be the Sound Director, but he's not the sole composer for the game - SE haven't had a FF title that has a soundtrack solely composed by one composer for years (spin offs don't count).

Really though, it's apples and oranges here - as you said Uematsu and Soken's compositions for FFXIV is perfect enough, and having other composers contribute just 'spoils the broth with too many cooks' so to speak, as the soundtrack loses cohesion. But that is just my own opinion as they say.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Soken might be the Sound Director, but he's not the sole composer for the game

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He is and he isn't. 1.0 was originally scored solely by Nobuo Uematsu, making it his first solo project in the series since FFIX. When the meteor hit, Masayoshi Soken was brought on as sound director and composer, with a number of other S-E composers contributing in places as well, but never more than one or two songs. While most songs from 1.X did end up reused in 2.X, the composition of new music specifically for A Realm Reborn was handled entirely by Soken.

Likewise, with Heavensward, the theme song is by Uematsu, but the new score itself is entirely by Soken, occasionally borrowing melodies from Dragonsong but otherwise sticking to his own compositions. So while some tracks in-game were contributed by other composers, the only active composer assigned to Final Fantasy XIV is Masayoshi Soken.

Probably, but that'll be far too expensive in the long haul hiring so many big-named composers to work on tracks from time to time. Instead, I can see them at least doing that for important trailers and/or one main theme like Nobuo's "Dragonsong"

According to the credits for Before Meteor it seems Soken scored a number of tracks for 1.0 even before Tanaka's departure from the development team and Yoshi taking over (March of the Moogles, a track that played during a cutscene in the original Gridanian storyline, was one of them), and that is not including the tracks Ryo Yamazaki also supplied, although to be fair those were added after the staff change in the development team.

But you are right about Soken being the main staff composer - Uematsu's contributions were done under contract, given the fact he's no longer directly employed by SE and is a freelance composer.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

According to the credits for Before Meteor it seems Soken scored a number of tracks for 1.0 even before Tanaka's departure from the development team and Yoshi taking over (March of the Moogles, a track that played during a cutscene in the original Gridanian storyline, was one of them).

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Actually, that is one of a small number of tracks that were added to the 1.0 cutscenes after Tanaka left. The same patch also added and/or swapped in different tracks for the field music in a number of locations (most notably La Noscea and the Black Shroud), as well as replacing the battle theme that played in open-world dungeons. None of those added tracks were present in the original 1.0 release files.

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You're right about the changed zone music (I got annoyed when On Windy Meadows was replaced with the lackluster Freedom as the 'base' La Noscea track for instance), however, March of the Moogles was in the game from the very beginning - it played during the scene where the player and Yda and Papalymo are chased by a treant, and they freeze in midair - the track is the musical cacophony played by the moogles in that scene, and the way the scene is, there is no way that music was 'added into it in a patch - it was an integral part of that scene (that scene was the first real clue to the player something strange was going on - unaware at that time that they were actually in an Echo vision of course). ;)

The main thing is, that scene (and music) was in version 1.0 from the very start of service and wasn't added in later on. (I'm sorry for derailing your thread Skizzle - and I hope I haven't come across as nasty Fenral, I guess I'm just as passionate about FF music as you are. :D).

Eh, while Mitsuda used to be my favorite, he hasn't really done anything amazing in about 10 years. He's also independent now, he's not affiliated with SE.

That being said, I wouldn't mind Sakimoto for a few field tracks. But again, independent, not affiliated with SE.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

The main thing is, that scene (and music) was in version 1.0 from the very start of service and wasn't added in later on. (I'm sorry for derailing your thread Skizzle - and I hope I haven't come across as nasty Fenral, I guess I'm just as passionate about FF music as you are. :D).

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I don't take this sort of thing personally, and it may simply be that my memory is foggy and the entire thing was so forgettable that the tracks on Before Meteor sounded like they weren't in-game before. The OST rip from Alpha not including those songs may simply be because they were stored as cutscene-use voice files and not BGM. Pretty sure I remember being struck at the time by the basically silent moogles, though, just like I was when the Songstress of Ul'dah didn't actually sing.

It's not really important either way. Enough derailing.

Would really love some Hitoshi Sakimoto. Maybe if an expansion where we invade Garlean soil probably and they have Sakimoto contribute some tunes... i would die happy.

I honestly would like to see more outside musical input in ffxiv. I like Soken I guess but I think there's a such thing as too much Soken at times. My final tipping point was the library.. I dont know what it is about the music in there it makes me feel sick when I hear it. I have to turn off the sound down.

Especialy with the primals of 2.0. Where the songs were mostly *heavy rock* SIT DOWN (Derogatory name beast guys have for you)*Rock*(Insert primal's name)x8

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Originally Posted by Chiapet

I honestly would like to see more outside musical input in ffxiv. I like Soken I guess but I think there's a such thing as too much Soken at times. My final tipping point was the library.. I dont know what it is about the music in there it makes me feel sick when I hear it. I have to turn off the sound down.

Especialy with the primals of 2.0. Where the songs were mostly *heavy rock* SIT DOWN (Derogatory name beast guys have for you)*Rock*(Insert primal's name)x8

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That was one song. One.

More nobuo uematsu please

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Originally Posted by Chiapet

I dont know what it is about the music in there it makes me feel sick when I hear it. I have to turn off the sound down.

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B-but the smooth jazz is just so nice..

Also IDK I see a lot of "hate" for the rock themes... though I won't talk about that since I'm heavily biased for hard rock/metal.

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Originally Posted by denbox1

More nobuo uematsu please

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I respectfully disagree, he is well past his prime. I'd rather see new composers.

Enkidoh: I don't mind at all. It is refreshing to read everyones opinions here with 0 trolling and white knight behavior.
Like you I'm a FF fanboy but I can't accept everything eventhough Soken did a good job on heavensward the reality is that its pretty much just replaying the main theme tune in different instruments and tempo pretty much not that its bad but it can get a bit repetative. In my personal opinion I really don't think rock music and chanting goes with everything either. Almost all primal fights are rock music based atleast the majority of them. Many tracks from 1.0 should have been left alone also imo. Uldah music from 1.0 is a masterpiece. Limsa Lominsa world map theme from 1.0 is way better than what we have now and is remixed in aleport wich is kinda meh.
Twilight over Thanalan was also removed wich i kinda don't get either.

I honestly don't beleive in Sokens theory that rock music goes with everything either. Alot of his tracks are really well composed and are of top notch sound and composition wise. If they fit into the envoirment is a different thing and sometimes stuff just feels like they are not meant to fit in here.

Since we are in the subject of getting new people in the picture the composer from Nier Keiichi Okabe has really climbed up on my top 10 list of music composers. Say what you want about Nier as a game but the Soundtrack itself can easily compete with the top tier ones.

They need to get Maaya Sakamoto to do vocals for one of the major theme songs, and maybe have Yoko Kanno compose it :)

OH WELL THEN if we're just saying which composers I'd like to see, we always need more Susumu Hirasawa.

Where in the game? I...don't know. But I'd listen to it that's for sure.

Proooobably not the best fit but I can dream

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

OH WELL THEN if we're just saying which composers I'd like to see, we always need more Susumu Hirasawa.

Where in the game? I...don't know. But I'd listen to it that's for sure.

Proooobably not the best fit but I can dream

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Well, to be fair, Square's already worked with Maaya Sakamoto before. She does the voices of Aerith (in Kingdom Hearts and Advent Children), Diva (Type-0) and Lightning :)

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Originally Posted by Millerna

Well, to be fair, Square's already worked with Maaya Sakamoto before. She does the voices of Aerith (in Kingdom Hearts and Advent Children), Diva (Type-0) and Lightning :)

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Ah ok, I knew I recognized that name from somewhere...that's probably where, haha.

Please someone just redo the Alexander music. Please. Or make future raid music less annoying. I am always listening to my MP3 library instead or Spotify.

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Originally Posted by melisande

Please someone just redo the Alexander music.

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You need to redo your brain. The Alexander music is fine. Any music on endless loop is going to grate at some point--it's just a matter of when.

Even now, I'd rather fall back right into the system than close my eyes.

Am I the only who one who just likes it more traditional FF music style? less rock less hard techno and more focus on actually sounding RPGish if you know what i mean?

I could be wrong too maybe its meant to be like this I dont know.

I've come to accept the blending of music genres where it comes to the Final Fantasy series. The music is never bad, but it is different. Back when I heard X's "Otherworld" the first time-- this was when Uematsu was experimenting with rock sound in his compositions (not to mention forming the "Black Mages")-- I didn't know what to think about it at all, to the point of disliking it. Fast forward to now? You have things like the Alexander songs and Under the Weight the latter being probably one of my favorite tracks of XIV) and they just *work* for me. Might be because I've matured a little but it is what it is.

Sakimoto's good, and might fit the "judge" like appearances of the Garleans, but I do find his instrumentation much too same-y after a while that I can guess within five seconds if it's him or not.

id like to have the ability to have an alternative say you were in titan and the music was too much you could switch to an alternative or a few alternatives id also like a jukebox where you can choose from previous final fantasies

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Originally Posted by SkizzleofRagnarok

Am I the only who one who just likes it more traditional FF music style? less rock less hard techno and more focus on actually sounding RPGish if you know what i mean?

I could be wrong too maybe its meant to be like this I dont know.

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i know and understand what you're saying, i also would prefer some old-school music, but as someone has already said it, that would disrupt the cohesion of FFXIVs musical direction.
as with FFXI & FFXIV, other games are born with a certain musical direction that they keep until the end.
and even with other composers that have worked on FFXIVs music like naoshi mizuta (the guy who is practically making almost all of FFXIs tracks) the musical direction is still the same.
sure, they leave their own notes that might remember you on songs from other games (naoshi for example made the Grand company track maelstorm command, and while they sound different from FFXI they sure have a few moments that sound like remastered FFXI music haha)

overall, the FFXIV ost is good, it's not my favorite, especially the reuse of some tracks and the open world battle tracks.
and i'd rather have them stick to music that focuses more on instruments than voice, like the titan or alexander song, but that is all up to the individuals taste in music.

my favorite tracks btw are white raven (that track really rocked in 1.0 with nael van darnus) and my most recent favorite from HW is the open field track of dravanian forelands.

BlackRose: thats kinda sad. Sorry for the delays. Ive been on a mini tour working. I wished it was more traditional. I just feel like if im playing an mmorpg that has magic dragons swords and shields the music should be more like that and not technoish rock tunes.