Dev Request: Crystal Tower clear required for new 24-man raid

At the moment very few people queue for the Crystal tower raids and many people amy just skip it entirely.

I think Crystal tower should be required for the new 24 man raid to alleviate queuing issues and for new players to learn/get used mechanics in a 24-man raid.

It wouldn't work how you'd think it'd work.

#1 problem being that a lot of people already have their CT clears. And the people who don't will get them in the first week or two, and then will never come back - which leads you to the issue that people are locked out from the new raid, b/d nobody does crystal tower.

This is basically the same thing where people wanted to lock Alexander behind Coil so no.

Crystal tower... players learning mechanics... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

No, they should implement a Raid Trial Roulette or something. People like myself want to continue running the old ones for glamour and pets we might not have gotten before. Forcing all the NEW players to run the old raid would just ensure that no one can clear the old stuff, and no one can get to the new ones.

I mean, I just fell into a Hyrda trial the other day with seven new players, and the concept of "stack in middle when hydra moves there" just flew over their heads. Full 120 gear, wiping repeatedly, was only able to brute force it once Echo got high enough.

I don't want to imagine what the three atomos fight in Labyrinth of the Ancients would be with those same players.

All they need to do is update the rewards for the weekly CT/ST/WoD quest "The Gift of the Archmagus" to be something actually relevant.

It's more of a wait and see mentality atm, it's hard to keep content relevant with current game design, however if they are implementing NPC "armies" then it may be possible to do said content with a smaller group, but only time will tell once it's actually implemented, or in a few days if they talk more about it during the 14hr stream.

Not a bad idea forcing people to get used to 24 man raids if they haven't touched CT yet but tbh the general populace aren't exactly very bright in these 'casual' raids despite being told what to X amount of times so it's a wasted effort really.

clear required wouldn't work, need to make it worth running for older players forcing new players to run it before the new 24m raid won't solve anything.

Anyone trying to get into the new raid later on would be screwed because, once again, no one would be running CT.

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Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez

All they need to do is update the rewards for the weekly CT/ST/WoD quest "The Gift of the Archmagus" to be something actually relevant.

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This could be a great tool for driving traffic back into those instances, agreed.

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Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez

All they need to do is update the rewards for the weekly CT/ST/WoD quest "The Gift of the Archmagus" to be something actually relevant.

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I support this.

Locking the new 24-man behind CT? No way.

Adding incentive by improving the rewards for Gift of the Archmagus? Absolutely!

Adding the current top tome (esoterics atm) as a reward to any content will keep it relevant. I don't know why so little content rewards us esoterics. Even adding 20 to the end of something older will encourage people to play it if they get bored of the selection we have now. :S

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Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez

All they need to do is update the rewards for the weekly CT/ST/WoD quest "The Gift of the Archmagus" to be something actually relevant.

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Actually I am a bit surprised they haven't done it. Weekly quest for 1 - 2 items used to upgrade gear from 170 to 180, for example.

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Originally Posted by Elim

Adding the current top tome (esoterics atm) as a reward to any content will keep it relevant. I don't know why so little content rewards us esoterics. Even adding 20 to the end of something older will encourage people to play it if they get bored of the selection we have now. :S

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Well as Gift of the Archmagus is still ARR content, I'd probably say tack on a reward of 120 Poetics from 1-59, then like, 120 Law and 100 Eso for Lv60s. That way those who don't have HW get something extra too.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

Well as Gift of the Archmagus is still ARR content, I'd probably say tack on a reward of 120 Poetics from 1-59, then like, 120 Law and 100 Eso for Lv60s. That way those who don't have HW get something extra too.

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Yes agreed. At lv 60 give us different rewards. Not sure if that's hard to implement or something though...

Even if we are lvl synced to 50, we'll be assisting people through content as vets and helping the queue times.

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Originally Posted by Elim

Yes agreed. At lv 60 give us different rewards. Not sure if that's hard to implement or something though...

Even if we are lvl synced to 50, we'll be assisting people through content as vets and helping the queue times.

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Hell, just as an extra something-something for people leveling, I'd even say tack on an XP bonus of either 432,000 or even 864,000, as 864,000 is the exact number of XP needed to get from 50 to 51. And being a weekly quest that requires three full-scale raids to complete, I think that's a fair number of XP.

Just add a Raid Roulette for CT/ST/WoD, and BCoB 1-4.

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I guess the people calling for this completely missed how Crystal Tower is entirely optional and can be completely ignored in regards to the rest of the game, like Coil. And given Coil isn't needed to access Alexander, what indication is there that Crystal Tower will have any impact on the next beer-and-pretzels raid?

No. Disagree with this entirely.

They would then have to lock Alexander behind clearing all of coils as its the same principle.