Half Elezen

I was about my business, doing a quest, when I did my normal routine. I click my first person key to talk to a NPC related to a quest before I talk to the NPC quest initiator. I find it enjoyable, makes it seem conversational, and immersive. In this case, it was the Frightened Maid, in the first Dark Knight quest.


However, this young maid surprised me. Her ears, were far too round. She was of Elezen stature and appearance, but her ears were rounded! I'm a proud Elezen, since before September of 2010, so I know my people! I thought perhaps I was wrong; maybe the facial creation software for the gentler Elezen sex allows for such, so I tried to make her, and my best efforts were not this girl. I can only conclude I've discovered a half-Elezen. Now, I haven't proceeded thus far, but I know there is already one such creature in the game, but she is Hyur featured with Elezen ears, but this lass seems the opposite, what say you lore masters?

The Frightened Maid:

http://i.imgur.com/1gHUhqp.png

http://i.imgur.com/3LnUWiR.png

The character creator's roundest Elezen eared lass:

http://i.imgur.com/w5DSEtN.png

Maybe but I suspect she is just an Elezen. As you said we have a Half caste in the game and this maid really doesn't have any particularly Hyurish features. They could have it that she has Hyur in her family tree somewhere but I doubt they would make a special model just for a unnamed NPC.

I'm sure there's an option for female-elezen ears to be more rounded on Character Creation.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

I'm sure there's an option for female-elezen ears to be more rounded on Character Creation.

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The third pic is my attempt with the roundest set of Elezen ears, try it for yourself.

I tried to recreate the npc in the character creation menu (poor likeness I know) but, if you look at her ears they look really similar to the npc's ears from the quest.

http://i.imgur.com/vUkZKhK.png

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Originally Posted by Jillian

I tried to recreate the npc in the character creation menu (poor likeness I know) but, if you look at her ears they look really similar to the npc's ears from the quest.

http://i.imgur.com/vUkZKhK.png

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This is what I was talking about. I'm working so I couldn't make it myself, but here it is.

Not not the same there is also another but in the "Old man and the Lake" side quest in Coersthas Western Highland an Elezen (noble?) asks you to convince his uncle, Emont, to live with him.

If you go to go to the cabin in that lake you'll notice that the old man is actually Human

Ear shapes for Elezen vary based on the chose face.

I just wish there were ways to make a character like Hilda... she has the look of a Hyur, but elezen ears.

OP: You'll meet an actual Half-Hyur/Half-Elezen in the main story quest, you should try getting a closer look at her when you get the chance! That NPC though I believe is just a regular Elezen.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

OP: You'll meet an actual Half-Hyur/Half-Elezen in the main story quest, you should try getting a closer look at her when you get the chance! That NPC though I believe is just a regular Elezen.

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Hilda seems to suggest that Elezen-Hyurian Hybrids tend to favor their Hyurian blood line. Which could lead to the question (Once again) of how other mixed races would work.
(I Bet Au Ra-Miqo'te Hybrids would look interesting)

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Hilda seems to suggest that Elezen-Hyurian Hybrids tend to favor their Hyurian blood line. Which could lead to the question (Once again) of how other mixed races would work.
(I Bet Au Ra-Miqo'te Hybrids would look interesting)

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That's not necessarily true for 100% of hybrids. Some Half Elezen may still be tall with blunt ears, though it is true from D&D lore as well as several other sources that generally Half-Elfs and equivalent races look like humans with sharper ears.

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Originally Posted by Lusavari

That's not necessarily true for 100% of hybrids. Some Half Elezen may still be tall with blunt ears, though it is true from D&D lore as well as several other sources that generally Half-Elfs and equivalent races look like humans with sharper ears.

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Well Hilda is really our only confirmed Mixed Blood. So untill a few more are confirmed she's really all we have to go on.

You all probably forgot about the half highlander/ half garlean who had the echo back in Waking Sand. He looks exactly like a highlander tho

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Originally Posted by JepMZ

You all probably forgot about the half highlander/ half garlean who had the echo back in Waking Sand. He looks exactly like a highlander tho

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True but minus the third eye, Garleans are that different from Hyur. After all Cid could pass himself off as one easily enough.

Dealt with this a bit when the Au Ra physiology thread was super hot.

Simply put, there's more likely than not lots of half-Elezen in Ishgard; there seem to be adulterous relationships everywhere, with Aymeric, Haurchefant, and Hilda all being products of such relationships. Furthermore, there is a noble woman near the Astrologians' Guild who complains that, despite having hired her only about a month ago, their new maid is "already fat with child," suggesting she was hired because the head of house was porking her (or this started very shortly after she was hired, or something like that).

That aside... genetic hybrids. Hard to pin down. We've got conflicting products. On the one hand we have Hilda, a half-Elezen who looks rather like your average fantasy half-elf (pointed ears, otherwise human). Then we have this Roegadyn in Limsa who is apparently married to a Lalafell, and he has two children with her... both of which are simply Lalafell. Without testing we can't say for sure what a hybrid of any two races would look like, apparently. (And I've no intention of performing such experiments FOR SCIENCE! I may be willing to discuss these things, but I'm not Hojo.)

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Ishgardians aren't "pure" Hyur or Elezen (see above on adulterous relationships), so an Elezen maid with Hyur-like ears doesn't strike me as all that unusual (and that appearance can be made in the Character Creator with the right options).

The two lalafell children could be either step children or adopted. Honestly, fantasy game aside, a lalafel birthing children with Roegadyn genetics would potentially be a life threatening event unless Roegadyn children are born very small. This is a problem in the real world when with animal breeding when you have to breeds of very different sizes mate and the mother is the smaller.

Its worth noting with Ishgard though that what was considered really scandalous about Hilde's birth was not as much that it was adulterous (as these seem rather common) but that it was with a Hyur servant. That's why Hilde's mother was kicked out. So it was the cross breeding that was considered taboo. That said, I have no doubt its happened frequently enough, particularly with the lower classes. In the lower classes such cultural taboos probably don't carry quite as much weight. Still its worth noting that for a long time Hilde was ostracised for her mixed heritage hence the nickname, the Mongrel.

With a higher Elezen population there are quite likely Ishgardians with Hyur ancestors that look predominately Elezen. After all its likely that if Hildi had a child with an Elezen the child would have more Elezen traits than Hyur.

I remember that highlanders were joked about their mothers being Roegadyn... Though looking at Roe and Hyur that doesn't seem too farfetched... Now if I see a Highlander with a green/blue hue to their skin...

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Originally Posted by Ferrus

I remember that highlanders were joked about their mothers being Roegadyn... Though looking at Roe and Hyur that doesn't seem too farfetched... Now if I see a Highlander with a green/blue hue to their skin...

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Uh, the racial slur "Your Mother was a Sea Wolf" has lead to many a drunkard's untimely deaths when directed at a Hyurian highlander.

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Originally Posted by Ferrus

I remember that highlanders were joked about their mothers being Roegadyn... Though looking at Roe and Hyur that doesn't seem too farfetched... Now if I see a Highlander with a green/blue hue to their skin...

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Uh, the racial slur "Your Mother was a Sea Wolf" has lead to many a drunkard's untimely deaths when directed at a Hyurian highlander.

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RAHHHAGGGG!! I'M SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW!

Well see the problem with the genetic hybrid angle is that we have no way of knowing what the child of any interracial couple would look like. Though Hilda looks like a close 50/50 blend, that might not necessarily be true of all biracial children. Genetics is complicated, yo!

... but I doubt they've put that much thought into it, so let's just go with the standard 50/50 split common in fantasy works.