Its the little things...

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08-12-2015, 04:39 PM
Sartori

Its the little things...

Hello

I was curious if anybody else finds that "vapor trail" coming off your chocobo a little annoying. It isn't like its going mach 4 or anything lol
08-12-2015, 04:43 PM
Moonleg

I think you overestimate the speed required to leave a vapor trail when flying. Especially one that dissipates immediately.
08-12-2015, 04:50 PM
Amiantos

It's a chem trail coming off your chocobo that the Grand Companies implanted in chocobos before giving them to adventurers. It's meant to cull the weak and stupid. WAKE UP EORZEA THE GC's HAVE BEEN LYING TO YOU ALL THIS TIME!
08-12-2015, 04:52 PM
Moonleg

Wait, I thought the GCs made the Frontlines to cull the weak and the stupid?
08-12-2015, 04:56 PM
Amiantos

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Originally Posted by Moonleg

Wait, I thought the GCs made the Frontlines to cull the weak and the stupid?

They have many ways of doing culling the weak and stupid. These are just 2.
08-12-2015, 10:56 PM
Maleha

Preeetty sure I have seen a thread like this before. Someone corrected OP there, I shall do here.
It's not vapor, it's a vortex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingtip_vortices
It exists in the animal kingdom (see section about formation flight) as well as airplanes, so it doesn't need to go mach 4 or anything to be there.
Personally I think it is a great touch, considering weather seems to affect it slightly, which speaks of great detail. That and the whoosh soundeffect when you pass by a wall or something really brings a great feeling to flying. Good Job SE!
08-12-2015, 11:09 PM
Andevom

If Batman can do it in Arkham Knight, then so can my chocobo.
08-12-2015, 11:21 PM
Alberel

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Originally Posted by Maleha

Personally I think it is a great touch, considering weather seems to affect it slightly, which speaks of great detail. That and the whoosh soundeffect when you pass by a wall or something really brings a great feeling to flying. Good Job SE!

Indeed, I was very impressed when I saw how much detail the devs went into with the flight animations and effects. The mounts with wings even flap and glide at the correct times too.
08-13-2015, 12:48 AM
Kosmos992k

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Originally Posted by Sartori

Hello

I was curious if anybody else finds that "vapor trail" coming off your chocobo a little annoying. It isn't like its going mach 4 or anything lol

You need to watch life more closely, 'vapor trails' (more accurately con-trails) require neither excess speed, nor any form of chemical. They simply require the right conditions to be present. Watch a F1 race sometime and watch the 'vapor trails' forming in the wash off the top of the tail wing (spoiler) used to create lots of downforce on the cars, even at relatively low speeds.

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Originally Posted by Maleha

Preeetty sure I have seen a thread like this before. Someone corrected OP there, I shall do here.
It's not vapor, it's a vortex.**snip**Good Job SE!

I agree, good job SE. But I also have to take issue with your post. The condensation that forms in the vortex created by the wing tips can only form if there is sufficient water vapor in the air that the vortex forms in. If the air is dry, the vortex formed from a bird's wing will not form visible condensation and you'll see no vortex, 'vapor trail' or con-trail at all. So, yeah, water vapor is required, and in common use people refer to this phenomenon as vapor trails.
08-13-2015, 01:09 AM
Rhaja

All I know is that it's going to look awkward as hell on Kirin, but I'll still love it regardless.
08-13-2015, 03:07 AM
Sartori

Call it whatever you want:), It's still annoying
08-13-2015, 03:12 AM
Squrilruler

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Originally Posted by Sartori

Call it whatever you want:), It's still annoying

I am not sure how it is annoying. Is it that you just don't like it, thus it annoys you?
08-13-2015, 03:15 AM
Adire

I'd prefer being able to turn it off too. It bugs me more than the Darkside aura.
08-13-2015, 03:34 AM
Nyalia

Personally, I love them. I love the detail in the flying animations. I just wish flying mounts banked instead of turning, especially the ones that glide when flying straight, like the dragon. I recall Yoshida saying in an interview or live letter that he'd ask the animation team about it, so I'm hoping that happens!

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Watch a F1 race sometime and watch the 'vapor trails' forming in the wash off the top of the tail wing (spoiler) used to create lots of downforce on the cars, even at relatively low speeds.

Look, if you're going to talking about spoilers, you really should be using the spoiler tags. Some people really don't like that sort of thing!
08-13-2015, 04:11 AM
Felis

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Look, if you're going to talking about spoilers, you really should be using the spoiler tags. Some people really don't like that sort of thing!

Like this?

http://www.physlink.com/Education/As...ges/ae496a.gif
08-13-2015, 04:55 AM
Kaaylryn

I suffer from game vertigo and the trails off the wings especially in dust or snow storms can make me nauseous so I have to look elsewhere on the screen. For this aspect only I do wish I could turn off the effect. It is quite nice to have this sort of detail, but not for everyone.
08-13-2015, 04:58 AM
Xairos

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Originally Posted by Sartori

Call it whatever you want:), It's still annoying

Life observations and science is annoying folks... Pack it up.
08-13-2015, 08:29 AM
Nyalia

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Originally Posted by Kaaylryn

I suffer from game vertigo and the trails off the wings especially in dust or snow storms can make me nauseous so I have to look elsewhere on the screen. For this aspect only I do wish I could turn off the effect. It is quite nice to have this sort of detail, but not for everyone.

Oh, that sucks :( As someone who gets headaches from the DRK aura, I can understand how irritating a graphic like that can be. I wonder if this is a common problem? If so, it would be nice if SE had an option that would disable vertigo-inducing effects. It would also be nice for accessibility. I'm assuming you also have issues with the Quarantine skill used by the A4 boss? That's something they should really allow you to disable for accessibility reasons if you are prone to vertigo. =\
08-13-2015, 09:36 AM
Kaaylryn

Not sure if it is true vertigo, but I got very sick trying to find the moogles and that stupid little bridge. It is the up/down, side to side movements that get to me in games and anything swirling makes me sick also. Needless to say I can't touch anything FPS. The quarantine skill disorients me for a bit and I look away when I am tumbling up or down the tunnels. It is a problem for lot of gamers.
08-13-2015, 11:48 PM
Nyalia

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Originally Posted by Kaaylryn

It is a problem for lot of gamers.

Yeah, my best friend hates FPSs. I asked her why, and she said it's because they make her sick. Literally. She gets nauseous at the way the screen moves, especially while jumping or whatnot. She really wanted to play Portal, but that did NOT go well and she had to stop. =\

I'd think flying in general would be bad for people with vertigo/motion sickness issues. Personally, I get motion sick in actual vehicles all the time, but never in games. Dunno why. I can still empathize though - motion sickness isn't fun. :(

Does zooming out help at all? Or moving the camera directly above you looking down when going up/down? Dunno, just trying to think of ways to minimize the motion and the contrails...
08-14-2015, 12:40 AM
Kosmos992k

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Does zooming out help at all? Or moving the camera directly above you looking down when going up/down? Dunno, just trying to think of ways to minimize the motion and the contrails...

IMHO zooming out in third person view does help because you have a point of reference on the screen (your character), but zoomed in, or 1st person is more immersive and disorienting.