You guys never asked me to stay but how can I not stay from something that I believe in my heart will be big an I believe in you .
I've posted my share of rage comments towards your updates but to be honest this game has never been better [Yoshi] your a boss as well as all the other [Devs] working very hard at launching these updates an making them live so that we may enjoy this Final Fantasy 14 an its rich game play an graphics.
I've sent you guys alot of rage support tickets only against how much I hated the updates but it's only cause I wasn't used to them an didn't see the vision you brought to use now an it's a great vision i have FAITH in you [Yoshi] an without playing this next installment no matter what ill be sure that whatever that may seem wrong may be the right choice you have made I just need to envision it an even though you may never read this post.
I'm Sorry and Thank You <3
I'm Sorry Square-Enix an Yoshi
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10-03-2011, 07:32 PMNemo5990I'm Sorry Square-Enix an Yoshi
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10-03-2011, 07:46 PMIlethiusThat is the issue when impatient players are not allowed to see the bigger picture it ends in rants and emo rages, things are looking positive with the new changes. If/when Yoshi-P and Co pull this off and the game does indeed end up a success they should erect a statue of Yoshi on a Chocobo somewhere in Ishguard (when it opens) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Nemo5990
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10-03-2011, 07:48 PMShneibelI am fail to see it as well but keep play anyway since I have never play FFXIQuote:
Originally Posted by Ilethius
but for ppl who played FFXI, how big is the different between the current FFXI and FFXIV ? (graphic is not into discussion, only game system, race and class) -
10-03-2011, 10:08 PMNemo5990
For me i feel its job specific content and leveling up i only play as an archer an i don't like that it's like if u don't rank up every job your not gonna be good =( an then on the other hand its more boring grinding the same leve quests everyday then to actually go out an grind on the same mobs because normal mobs can actually rape u an quest mobs partially kill u it's not fun to level up your job to 50 if it wasn't hard final fantasy series has always been about strategy an its difficulty not easy an lets skip the whole game to the end
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10-03-2011, 10:37 PMnasomiFFXI to FFXIV, it's totally different. Yes, there's 3 starting cities, but the similarites end there. Before you had a job, and a sub-job. I loved that system, and hope they work towards it in ffxiv. You had white mage, which a conjuror is sort of like, but not. They had the white magic spells, such as cures, but also banish. They did not have the elemental spells, as they are dark magic. The black mage had black magic spells, elemental spells, enfeebling, and so on. A warrior could not simply borrow another job's abilities/spells without having that other job as the subjob, and then you were limited to half your level. So a 50 warrior with a 30 monk subjob would only have monk abilities up to 25. If the monk was below 25, they'd only have the abilities of what level they were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shneibel
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10-03-2011, 11:33 PMShneibelgood to know that, but as you said, the state atm is very close to being call FFXI-2.Although it is still to early to call it FFXI -2 as we dont know about 1.21 and patch above, at least not until the game goes liveQuote:
Originally Posted by nasomi
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10-03-2011, 11:52 PMGathYou make me want to punch orphans....Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemo5990
My 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil. -
10-03-2011, 11:59 PMAngryNixonWell said good sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gath
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10-04-2011, 12:46 AMGeesusWhat makes you think this is XI-2? O.oQuote:
Originally Posted by Shneibel
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10-04-2011, 01:26 AModintius
They did pretty much kept the races the same just updated graphic and called them different names.
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10-04-2011, 01:30 AMArcellThey're similar in appearance but there are some pretty noticeable differences in appearance and lore.Quote:
Originally Posted by odintius
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10-04-2011, 01:45 AMJinko
LOL its like reading a pray to god by a 5 year old.
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10-04-2011, 01:48 AMGeesusOk... And if we discovered another planet in a solar system, and if you believe in deities, would you be angry that the new people look the same but they call themselves different names? lol Just saying. And tbh, if this had of BEEN more XI related, release may not have sucked as much because they would have built OFF OF rather than retooling everything and hosing it up. Again, my pov. They should never have 'fixed' what wasn't broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by odintius
If anything, I'm more miffed at the whole copy/paste of XIV to XI. The city areas look similar, the ideology of each city is similar to XI and the areas themselves are very XI like. For a game to have been in development for several years to have THOSE aspects the same is weak. -
10-04-2011, 01:56 AMJennestiaXI - Tons of content even at release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shneibel
XI - Very defined jobs, playerbase perceptions hurts some job placement though because as with all MMOs, if it doesn't auto kill mobs it's not worth having around.
XI - Tons of consistent story
XI - Very, Very fluid interface even though it's designed as a classic Final Fantasy style, aka menu driven if you don't make macros.
XI - Very good balance between crafted and dropped gear, though as of late a lot of gear is NM based.
And so on
XIV - Still need a lot of work.
Even though FFXI is about 10 years old, they took a very bad design choice to throw out everything XI did instead of building off of it. The main choice was a serverside interface, which hinders absolutely everything in this game and was the cause of many, many problems.
XIV was only in development for 2 years, 3 max. It was very obvious in 2007 when they shifted focus from XI to XIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geesus
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10-04-2011, 02:37 AMRedAffinity
Having been in the industry for many years, I'm sure Yoshi and his team have experience with all types of fans. Stoneskin
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10-04-2011, 03:08 AMFironThese cities look nothing like XI lol....Quote:
Originally Posted by Geesus
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10-04-2011, 03:19 AMGeesusI didn't say the LOOKED like them but they do lore wise and over all esthetic ARE the same. Windy = woodys, Bastok = Sand desert mountains, Jueno = sea based towering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firon
So Windy = Grid, Jeuno = LL and Ul'Dah = Bastok. If you can't see that sir, you're blind. LOL You could even say LL is 'similar' to Sandy but that's pushing it imo.
Not sure where you get your info from but those of us like myself started seeing sparks of this back before the actual mention of XIV. Please see below and do a little research before you tell me what 'facts' you have. I don't base my facts off of nothing. ;) Just because you're a mod on a XIV website does not make you better than others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
"Final Fantasy XIV, previously codenamed Rapture (ラプチャー, Rapuchā?),[21] was first mentioned in August 2005, when Square Enix announced they had begun working on a new MMORPG, but neither confirmed nor denied that it was a sequel to Final Fantasy XI, or that it was Final Fantasy-related.[22] Hiromichi Tanaka, producer of the MMORPG Final Fantasy XI, stated in April 2006 that developers were working to make Rapture a worldwide release for the PlayStation 3 and Windows Vista,[23] before announcing in February 2007 that the game was being developed for Xbox 360 and Windows PC, and that it could be brought to the PlayStation 3 at some stage as well." -
10-04-2011, 03:21 AMnasomiI don't know about that... To me, Gridania is like windy, limsa is like sandy, and uldah is like bastok, only uldah has people in it, and bastok was generally barren... even though I was from bastok.Quote:
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10-04-2011, 03:23 AMJennestiaThose of us who actually played FFXI literally felt the sting of XIV's development between 2007 and 2009. That's all the proof you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geesus
XIV was in concept stages in 2005 (announcement of a new MMO), but development didn't really ramp up until 2007, which was very obvious given how long it took them to complete the WoTG expansion pack (4 years), compared to every other expansion which took 1 1/2 years max. It's not because the game was dying or anything of the sort, it's because they were focusing on FFXIV.
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10-04-2011, 03:31 AMGeesusSo what is your point in disagreeing with me? You're not posing one your just taking from your personal experience. I also played XI for 4 years and didn't quit until Sept. 09 What I stated was that for a game to have been in development, meaning from concept to beta, they had ALL those years and all they could come up with was what they gave us. I'm not sure why you're choosing this battle but you should reconsider since your point is moot. Definition of moot incase you're not familiar with the word. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jennestia
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10-04-2011, 03:49 AModintius
I stand by my comment they could of made different races ill give human type is a give me. I believe there was an interview were they actally said to make the races simliar to ffxi so that if people ffxi transition over to ffxiv looking for post but not going to lose sleep over an empty agruement and really it not even an arguement lol. Also im not even angry about this just pointing it out this doesn't make it bad thing in my book. Seriously this forums are really full of hateful people not all but there plenty of people who with there know it all attitude really don't bring nothing to the table for this game except for whining.
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10-04-2011, 04:09 AMFironOK First Windy and Grid have nothing in common Grid is an forest like town where people in the city worship the forest basically. While windy is built on an tropical like place, where all they usually care about is their magic's, and the rangers did care about nature but not just one area its selfQuote:
So Windy = Grid, Jeuno = LL and Ul'Dah = Bastok. If you can't see that sir, you're blind. LOL You could even say LL is 'similar' to Sandy but that's pushing it imo.
Bastok and Uldah is the only one kid of the same but their lore is completely different cause you claim they are similar. Uldah area use to be an forest like area, while bastok is a complete wasteland. Bastok is a city that prides its self on technology and Uldah is a place to come gamble and spend money.
And finally LL compared to jeuno i guess but all they have in common is that they are both an port towns and that's all I think that's the same about them
Only thing that reminds of the Ff 11 towns is: Grid/Sandy most if not all the npc's are asshats, LL/Windy mostly everyone talks really stupid, and Uldah and bastok they both are wastelands.
Nothing really similar about them except minor details, i could go as far to say the Magictek capital of FF 12 is the basicly the same as the one in FF 6 but that would be to far fetched like your statements... -
10-04-2011, 04:34 AMMattyWS
FFXI and FFXIV are very similar, but then so are many FF games. Sue the races are the same, and other things like chocobos are pretty much based off of the FFXI model (and by model I mean system). There is a wannabe AH in FFXIV and maybe a real one in the future, theres similar crafting, there's 3 main starting cities, there's beastmen, a lot of the mobs are basically HD FFXI models, theres a crap ton of stuff to compare to. But still, it's not like FFXIV is FFXI-2. They have pretty much everything else uncommon from each other.
If you really wanna compare, just look at every other FF game, they have a lot of similarities, but that's what make them FF games. Also, FFXI and FFXIV are probably more similar than others because their online games. They have to be somewhat similar I guess, two online games made by the same people? Yea, if it were me I'd make a lot of similar stuff too. -
10-04-2011, 05:01 AMGeesusQuote:
Originally Posted by Firon
Ok and a forest and tropical forest are different how? And the only reason Windy was Tropical like was in the past and that was during the expansion pack otherwise after it regrew to the current time, it was more woods of Pine, oak, maple. Also, Windy had high walled areas inside the city or cliffs or w/e u wish to call them and Grid does too. O.o Also, this is the main place for the mages in XI AND XIV. Con guild is here, the tree stump used in XIV with the cool looking crystal ball or orb or Crystalis type object on top or with-in the stump is VERY reminesent of Heavens Tower in Windy LOLOL...did you guys even PLAY XI?! Seriously; or did the story NOT matter to you as I know there are those who could have cared less and just hacked and slashed through the game. Also it's CALLED Windurst Woods. Ummm the people in Grid ALSO worship the forest but they have added the Elementals to the mix so again; your point? lol I mean come now. Their very freaking similar. The ONLY difference between the two is the outside area. Grid still looks the same on the inside as the outside. Windy on the other hand, was WIDE open and more tundra like I guess you can say.
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10-04-2011, 05:12 AMsyntaxliesAnd /10charQuote:
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10-04-2011, 05:25 AMJennestia
Taru and Mithra didn't "worship the forest", they worshiped the magical nature (as well as nature in general). You're just grasping for straws. I can do the same:
The Starting cities in Lineage II were the exact same as those in Rappelz because both had buildings. The only similiarties between the cities in XI and XIV is they're situatued at a respectable distance from each other, which is true for any MMO with multiple start cities. Limsa is no where close to Jeuno because Jeuno was not only a hub city by story and player interaction, but Limsa doesn't "control" the other city states like Jeuno did the main nations.
If anything the Garlean captial would be closer to Jeuno. Windurst wasn't the main place for Ranger or Dragoon, nor woodworking, so using the comparison of class types doesn't work. The cities are only similar if you draw your own conclusions, because Windurst wasn't situated in a deep forest, nor does it have a "guardian", not even the Horo Towers were functional as a "guardian" which was the whole purpose of that storyline because you begin by trying to fix them lol.
Saruta was more of a plains than any type of forest. Sandoria was nestled in a forest which would make that city closer to Gridania than Windurst.