Glamour changes please.

Make the Glamour Quest in Revenant's Toll level 1, so anyone if they make it there as a reward can get the quest. Also make it where you can glamour low level items with higher level ones.

Lv.1 players can get to Mor Dhona very easily, leave Gridania from the north gate to North Shroud, to West Coerthas and Mor Dhona. can be done in 5 minutes or so.

and low level players shouldn't be allowed to glamour. want to look good? at least put some effort for it and get to level 50.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

and low level players shouldn't be allowed to glamour. want to look good? at least put some effort for it and get to level 50.

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Why am I still reading these forums when there are people like this one around...

To me that translates to "low level players shouldn't be allowed to have fun. Want to have fun? at least put some effort for it and get to level 50"

Edit: Instead of making a new post ill reply to the second part from OP here
I don't agree that you should be able to glamour higher lvl req gear to low.
But I do wish ilvl didnt matter.
Because I wanted to glamour ribbon of xx from Mog king to my fisher, but i couldn't because it had higher ilvl.

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

Why am I still reading these forums when there are people like this one around...

To me that translates to "low level players shouldn't be allowed to have fun. Want to have fun? at least put some effort for it and get to level 50"

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low level players supposed to wear bad looking gears. they designed the game like that, to convince people to do content and level up to 50 in order to have real fun, real rewards.

Transmog and appearance slots(wow, and eq2) are available at low level in other games. Both have the restrictions of only being able to use the appearance of things you can equip.

Lowbies shouldn't look like level 50+ toons but they should be able to at least match.

I do not agree with this thread!.

I wouldn't care if the glamor option was made available to lower levels, but the level requirement thing needs to stay.

Rather not have low levels running around looking like high levels.

Why does it matter? I don't understand. You still have to put work into getting the items in the first place. This actually helps crafters make more money on higher level gear.

This actually "helps" the game in many ways.

Because the items have a level requirement on them and if you aren't that level you have no business wearing it?

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Originally Posted by Ditto

Rather not have low levels running around looking like high levels.

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Not possible. Even if you obtained higher level gear, the glamor would fail since you can have glamors of equipment you can actually wear normally. At best you'd be able to run around at level 1 in a Thavnarian Bustier, but that's already possible given it's a level 1 item.

I wouldn't mind them reducing the level requirement a bit. Give it to the same lady who gives you the dye quest and make prisms available in most stores. There you go, one lovely glamor system which is open to all.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

Because the items have a level requirement on them and if you aren't that level you have no business wearing it?

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Why does that matter? Are you entitled to bought gear? All a low level could get is crafted gear really. Which anyone can buy, not gear you earn in dungeons or quests.

I would of said the same when the level cap was 50. However it is no longer a max level thing.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

At best you'd be able to run around at level 1 in a Thavnarian Bustier, but that's already possible given it's a level 1 item.

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I support this! Thavnarian gear for all! that is if I can ever get some Silk to drop for me. 8 maps last week. No Silk >.<

And remove the class/job restrictions for Mirage !

Free the glamour ! let's the sun shine ! open the birds cage ! toutouyoutou !

Agree that any lv of player should be able to use glamour system, requiring 50 for the quest is completely unnecessary for a vanity feature.

Why bother glamoring at low levels?

I mean, you're going to change gear anyways in 4 levels or so.

It just means that you're going to waste money on something you won't even keep.

I think it should stay 50 not, because they have to level it to deserve it or something. But. because the mats, catalyst needed for glamours will be expensive for the low level players. If you are a newcomer and you are level 1-20, unless you grind for days or find a sugar daddy, getting 5x catalyst that are around (this is based on my server) 10.000,00 gil per catalyst is not going to make a lowbie very happy.

I reckon SE wants the players to level and not focus on grinding gil to pay stuff for glamours. If we had the same system like other games where catalysts are very cheap or there is none and a player only needs to drag the glamour armour to a tab, then, I would agree with you and make it a level 1 quest. Right now this is sadly not the case, so I think keeping it at level 50, is the best choice.

Support this because glamor still got level restriction, you can't glamor high lvl gear. So there no need to worried about lowbie look like lvl 60 player, let them glamor low level or MOG gear that look match with their taste.

I don't see what benefit you could actually get out of such a change. You wouldn't be able to glamour anything that looked neat and you typically replace gear so fast that I can't see a reasonable person bothering with it even if they could. The only thing it could be is a newbie trap. In fact, it barely even qualifies as a newbie trap. Someone so new to the game that they don't know how fast you replace gear most likely wouldn't be able to afford the prisms and cool equipment anyway. This is a change that really only benefits exactly no one.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

Not possible. Even if you obtained higher level gear, the glamor would fail since you can have glamors of equipment you can actually wear normally. At best you'd be able to run around at level 1 in a Thavnarian Bustier, but that's already possible given it's a level 1 item.

I wouldn't mind them reducing the level requirement a bit. Give it to the same lady who gives you the dye quest and make prisms available in most stores. There you go, one lovely glamor system which is open to all.

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If they did as the OP said, then it would be possible. That's what I'm against. You cant glamor higher level gear onto lower level gear. If you could, low levels would be running around looking like high levels.

I don't care if the ability to use glamor is set at a lower level, but keep it restricted to gear within the level of the piece you are glamoring onto itself.

Don't need people running around in a Steel Cuirass that has a Alexander body glamored onto it.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I wouldn't mind them reducing the level requirement a bit. Give it to the same lady who gives you the dye quest and make prisms available in most stores. There you go, one lovely glamor system which is open to all.

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You can already buy prisms in every city for 200 gil. Buy one, ask an crafter to polish it up for some extra gil and have fun.

I disagree, aside from the myriad reasons a low level player doesn't need glamours, letting a level 4 player glamour up to level 50 gear just means that they'll buy up all the cheap high level gear which will inflate the prices and leave the economy even more destabilized than it is. What you're proposing would lead to high economic disparity amongst new players and the veterans, a hole which most new players could no longer craft/gather their way out of if they wanted to use glamours.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

At best you'd be able to run around at level 1 in a Thavnarian Bustier, but that's already possible given it's a level 1 item.

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Welp, it will be an easier way to spot a gil buyer, if nothing else.

inb4 witchhunt: If it was gained by a legitimate means, then you have nothing to fear ;p

I'm not entirely opposed to the idea, but I would be concerned about the potential for RMT abuse that would allow low level players to glamour high end vanity items. It's more of a player fault than the game's, but it is something I could see happening.

While your at it can we also have an auto levelling feature so that I don't have to play the game to get to the good stuff.

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Originally Posted by Ditto

I wouldn't care if the glamor option was made available to lower levels, but the level requirement thing needs to stay.

Rather not have low levels running around looking like high levels.

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Completely agree with this. I don't have any problem with low level folks getting to glamour things, but they should NOT be able to glamour gear of higher levels.

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

But I do wish ilvl didnt matter.
Because I wanted to glamour ribbon of xx from Mog king to my fisher, but i couldn't because it had higher ilvl.

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Yeah, that annoys me too >.< They should at least weight the damn thing, so equip level counts for more than item level. (Say, for example, you wanted to glamour the Mog ribbon onto a level 50 i55 choker; it would fail, because the equip level is the same, but the item level is lower on the choker. But if you wanted to glamour the Mog ribbon onto a level 54 i90 choker, it would work, because the equip level of the choker is higher.)

(Now, there's a reason why my first level 50 was Fisher, because I wanted to get that damn glamour system, and Fisher was the quickest to level that didn't automatically screw with my MSQ progress...)

I remember getting to somewhere around 30, and getting a pink chestpiece from a leve... I wanted to glamour it onto the gear I was still using because it was pretty, even if the stats sucked. But the problem was that the aetherial quality of the gear lowered the equip level requirement but not the item level, so while i could equip it, the item level was TWO higher than the gear I was using >.< And so it wasn't allowed.

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Originally Posted by Ditto

Don't need people running around in a Steel Cuirass that has a Alexander body glamored onto it.

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Bad example is bad XD How would said low-level character even get the Alexander gear?

As stated, the glamour system doesn't actually work well at low levels. You have to be able to equip an item in order use it for glamour. In contrast to that, there isn't actually a requirement past being level 50 on "a job" to accept the quest and activate the feature for your character. So... one could always have a friend power level a crafter through leves and get it unlocked (as well as a way to make money) in a matter of hours.

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Originally Posted by Attarik

I disagree, aside from the myriad reasons a low level player doesn't need glamours, letting a level 4 player glamour up to level 50 gear just means that they'll buy up all the cheap high level gear which will inflate the prices and leave the economy even more destabilized than it is. What you're proposing would lead to high economic disparity amongst new players and the veterans, a hole which most new players could no longer craft/gather their way out of if they wanted to use glamours.

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Since you never said what those reasons are, you have no argument. Secondly, letting a level 4 player glamour up to 50 gear, or 60 gear is VERY GOOD, A VERY GOOD THING. It makes it so gear from crafters sells faster, thus making the economy healthier because right now there is a lot more then what people want to buy. I think you don't understand how economy works.

Right now, BALMUNG especially... We have an overbloat of gear that not many people want to buy.

http://www.investopedia.com/universi...economics3.asp

Here is something you can study, once you have finished that you can come back and reply, ok? Know that on servers, most servers - especially Balmung we have LOTS of supply and LITTLE demand. This helps. =) ALOT!~~

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Originally Posted by Kerii

As stated, the glamour system doesn't actually work at low levels. You have to be able to equip an item in order use it for glamour. In contrast to that, there isn't actually a requirement past being level 50 on "a job" to accept the quest and activate the system for your character. So... one could always have a friend power level a crafter through leves and get it unlocked (as well as a way to make money) in a matter of hours.

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It can work at lower levels. If that person can get to Rev's toll at level 10, he probably knows how to glamour and use the stuff. =)

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Originally Posted by Kerii

As stated, the glamour system doesn't actually work at low levels. You have to be able to equip an item in order use it for glamour. In contrast to that, there isn't actually a requirement past being level 50 on "a job" to accept the quest and activate the system for your character. So... one could always have a friend power level a crafter through leves and get it unlocked (as well as a way to make money) in a matter of hours.

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Well, I'd say it works -- just not as effectively as at higher levels. There is plenty of ugly levelling gear that I've chosen to glamour into something less ugly (the gatherer adidas shorts, the cowls, the shoes -- oh gods the shoes -- the list goes on), opting to spend gil or effort to get a prism for those few levels I've used that gear piece rather than wearing it. Before unlocking the glamour system, my only option was to not wear the gear piece at all, sticking with the lower level gear.

And... there sort of is another level 50 requirement. To craft those prisms. Why they chose to have you be level 50 in order to attempt to craft level 30 items you can't make HQ in the first place... It baffles me. Sure, have the quest to unlock glamour crafting be 50, but don't force a level 50 requirement to read the book that unlocks the level 30 recipes! >.<

And, like I mentioned in my previous post, Fisher is the easiest non-combat class to get to 50. It's also a lot less expensive than levelling up a crafting class or two, though the latter comes with the perk of being able to unlock glamour prism crafting, and if you pick the right crafting class, you can easily get back the money you spend on prisms for other types of gear.

Honestly, they should just make the glamour system in this game the same as DCU Online. For those who didn't play it, in that game, you could glamour anything you could equip, no prisms, no silly quest to unlock it. Equip the piece, go into the menu, couple clicks and it's glamoured. Also, it saves the glamour to the server, meaning once you've equipped a piece, you've "unlocked" it for future use.....even if you throw the item away, it remains part of your glamour options. Forever.

It also saved the look you set, so any future upgrade armor/weapon you obtain, the game automatically converts that new Chest Armor of Badassery +2(because +1 had one less STR. Duh!) right into the glamour you've saved, regardless of what it is. Every time, until you manually change it in the menus.

Oh, and before anyone comes in here and says "PS3 limitations! Can't be done!" DCU Online is playable on PS3/PS4/PC, the same exact platforms as FFXIV.
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disagree.
looking good is one of the perks of getting to high/max level.

who the hell cares about what they look like at level 20/30 anyway?

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

disagree.
looking good is one of the perks of getting to high/max level.

who the hell cares about what they look like at level 20/30 anyway?

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50 is not "max level" anymore A lot of people do. Especially role-players.

I see no point in glamouring before 15 and dyeing anyway. BUT being able to glamour items at that level... That would be great for my moogle raised Lalafell idea... Everything he wears is moogle attire!

allright. just to clarify, i have no problem with giving people the ability to glamour at level 1 or whatever. you wanna waste your money to glamour a gear youll replace 3 hours later? its stupid but whatever.
i DO have a problem with people asking to glamour stuff like ironworks /alexander gear to their level 10 character

I don't know about level one, but most things are unlocked by lv.15 ~20.

I agree that the level requirement should be lowered. 2.0 has so many cutscenes and I just hate looking at my alt looking like a fashion victim.

If they have the gil to spend it on, so why not let them glamour as long as it's level-appropriate?

Yes, please spend 8k+ gil to glamour over something you wear for an hour

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

allright. just to clarify, i have no problem with giving people the ability to glamour at level 1 or whatever. you wanna waste your money to glamour a gear youll replace 3 hours later? its stupid but whatever.
i DO have a problem with people asking to glamour stuff like ironworks /alexander gear to their level 10 character

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Ok. Let me just tell you something.

Your worried about a low level character (pre50) getting Ironworks/Alexander gear. Ok, let that thought flow into your mind a bit.

Now, come back and reply and tell me what you've learned.

Ummm... are you all forgetting that the glamour prisms are all level 50 crafts? Even if they get the quest and do the quest at level 1, they still have to get a crafter to level 50 to craft the prisms anyways. Lol, all this talk about how they should have access to the quest early is pointless when they wouldn't be able to craft the items anyways until level 50. And even then, the items that are necessary to craft them are at least level 20-30. If they just want to be able to buy the prisms and glamor crappy looking gear to other crappy looking gear, sure, why not?

A brand new player probably isn't even going to be aware that the glamour system even exists until the Mor Donuts quest slaps them in the face with it.

Not only is your gear replacement rate horrendously fast, especially with how fast the MSQs blow you through levels now, but a proper new character isn't going to have anything worth a damn to glamour into anyways.

The only thing i would agree with is perhaps a slacking of DoH/L ilvl glamouring restrictions. That is to say, if the Glamour target is the same level (or higher) to equip as the piece you want to make it look like then you should be able to glamour it.
Basically, remove the Item Level restriction but keep the Equip Level restriction for DoH/DoL gear *only*. So long as you can equip it, You should be able to glamour over it, ilvl be damned.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

A brand new player probably isn't even going to be aware that the glamour system even exists until the Mor Donuts quest slaps them in the face with it.

Not only is your gear replacement rate horrendously fast, especially with how fast the MSQs blow you through levels now, but a proper new character isn't going to have anything worth a damn to glamour into anyways.

The only thing i would agree with is perhaps a slacking of DoH/L ilvl glamouring restrictions. That is to say, if the Glamour target is the same level (or higher) to equip as the piece you want to make it look like then you should be able to glamour it.
Basically, remove the Item Level restriction but keep the Equip Level restriction for DoH/DoL gear *only*. So long as you can equip it, You should be able to glamour over it, ilvl be damned.

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I knew the very first day I played. I was just PO'd I had to get 50 at the time to get it. When I got there at 30 exploring. Friends told me the first day however, I won't play an MMO without a Appearance or Glamour system is why.