Anyone else starting to really doubt crit? currently on my scholar I have 620 crit, more with food, yet I still only crit about 1/20 adlos :( , through progression I have been trying to keep my gear crit oriented but I am really starting to think that it doesnt really matter :/ ,, anyone think this? or does the rng gods just hate me? any tips on whats the best sacrifice to the rng gods? kids? elderly?
Is crit real?
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07-30-2015, 01:51 AMLocetIs crit real?
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07-30-2015, 01:59 AMXyth
I don't know if it's just me, but any healer shouldn't have to rely on crit heals to perform well. Most games I've played, heals couldn't crit, kinda felt weird coming into this game where it was possible. However that being said, when a heal do crit, I think it's just a nice bonus, like a Freecure proc or a Enhanced Benefit II proc.
When it happens, it happens, when it doesn't, oh well, not like I needed it =3. -
07-30-2015, 02:02 AMLocetwell thats because you're not playing scholar.... all about them crit Adlos :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Xyth
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07-30-2015, 02:08 AMXyth
Yet, still a bonus if it crits :P.
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07-30-2015, 02:20 AMBlessedbythesun
I wouldn't call being able to negate some damage to a lot of damage a bonus. It's a staple of the job. Crit adlo on tanks that are about to be hit by tank buster requires less healing, equaling better MP efficiency, turning focus on other party members, more time to comfortable you focus on mechanics, and/or fire out short, support DPS, which benefits from crit rate.
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07-30-2015, 02:26 AMLocetdoesn't even have a scholar to know. so wouldn't understand ... also what games have you played that healers can't crit? every mmo I've ever played lets them critQuote:
Originally Posted by Xyth
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07-30-2015, 02:32 AMWizarus
I don't really know myself whether crit or determination or the buffed Spellspeed are worth it. The only ones I know I'm getting value out of are Mind, ACC, and Piety.
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07-30-2015, 02:37 AMXyth
Noct Shield works the same way, it's not rocket science to understand when it crits. Lucky crits are lucky, e.g. RNGesus.
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07-30-2015, 02:38 AMGideonHighmournNoct shields do not double on crit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xyth
Crit is definitely worth it on SCH. The ability to shield someone for 7k+ is awesome, regardless if it's reliable or not; an Adlo crit means I can spent twice the amount of time cleaning up healing or more time DPSing. If I fish with 2-3 casts for a crit before Deploying, it's possible for me to shield the entire group for 7k+ each. Not counting if I fish for it on a WAR, which would easily be closer to 8.5k+.
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07-30-2015, 02:45 AMLocetagain, doesn't have a scholar, so makes stupid comments like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Xyth
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07-30-2015, 02:46 AMRox_UnlimitedIf an AST A. Benefic crits for 5000 the shield will be 5000. If a SCH Aldo crits for 5000 the shield will be 10000. And I don't even have a SCH (yet) and know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xyth
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07-30-2015, 03:53 AMXyth
>_> I know it doesn't double... but I know how it works. It's not difficult to understand the concept of a crit adlo.
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07-30-2015, 06:42 AMKhyan
Crit is the best secondary stat for SCH. I have actually 740 crit on my SCH and I love it.
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07-30-2015, 06:44 AMKhyanA good AST never play with noct stance anyway. So no, it's not even close to SCH mechanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xyth
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07-30-2015, 06:50 AMXyth
Because I stated that I'm always using Noct stance, right? I said the effect is somewhat similar. I never also said Crit Adlo was bad. Anywho, it's unfortunate it doesn't crit often?... I guess?
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07-30-2015, 07:55 AMMidnightTundraReddit is strong with this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khyan
Noct stance is situational and I use it if I think the situation calls for it. The majority of the time, I'm in Diurnal. -
07-30-2015, 08:05 AMLocetyou also said "Noct shield works the same way" but now you are changing your story some to "similar"? .... so how are we to know :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Xyth
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07-30-2015, 09:03 AMRudyEstheimStop trying to stir drama out of nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Locet
They do provide the same benefits/function with different added perks (Insta Cast vs Dbl Potency on Crits). -
07-30-2015, 09:59 AMFoxyAreku^Quote:
Originally Posted by MidnightTundra
Noct stance is fine. It actually fixes the whole 'no emergency healing' problem that AST has, because 250 potency heal+250 shield on an instant cast is broken.
A. Benefic isn't even close to the reason that noct stance is weaker. -
07-30-2015, 10:31 AMKhyanI'm at 729 (740 with food) and it crit pretty often. Of course it's a bit rng but more you have crit more you have chance to crit. passed next to it is a mistake if you play sch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xyth
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07-30-2015, 10:33 AMXyth
Oh, I was talking to the OP lol. Sorry
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07-30-2015, 08:20 PMYuiSasaki
Found an interesting thread on reddit, someone probably did have to much time off and ran some maths to conclude a formula.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...mage_formulae/
I would not take it as 100% sure, yet it is a nice addition.
Yet never forget that Crit is a chance. Therefore don't forget RNGesus :P