*Airship Fees* Already broken?

Hey guys/girls,i just saw the patch notes, and there was one thing that got my attention.
The airship fees.Here are the fees:

Level Fee
1-25 2,500
26 2,600
27 2,700
28 2,800
29 2,900
30 3,000
31 3,100
32 3,200
33 3,300
34 3,400
35 3,500
36 3,600
37 3,700
38 3,800
39 3,900
40 4,000
41 4,100
42 4,200
43 4,300
44 4,400
45 4,500
46 4,600
47 4,700
48 4,800
49 4,900
50 5,000

So here's my question,fees are charged to my highest rank class even if im not equiped with the weapon of my main?
On the other hand,if i just equip my lvl 1 Lancer class,it will be only 2.500 Gil,then i can change to my main class again...i can see already a bunch of lvl 1 players on the Airship deck ;)

If it's going to work like this,what do you guys think? If i'm wrong,please correct me :)

Fees are charged according to your highest level class.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Fees are charged according to your highest level class.

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Quoted for truth.

yea if u ahve a rank 50 (soon to be level 50) class and ou are on the level 1 lancer u still get charged 5k

Glad to see that they've done it that way,thanks for the quick replys :)

Use anima if you don't want to ride the airship, makes travel free :D

I'm personally planing to ride the airship once. then go right back to using anima.

Good way to get gil out of the economy, and the tiered system is a fair way to do that. People that have been playing longer tend to have more money.

lets clarify none of you will be riding the airship you'll just be teleporting through picture of one for gil instead of anima

As was said, fees are based on highest level, this tiered system is the a good way to get gil out of the system which is badly needed.

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Originally Posted by Ichi

lets clarify none of you will be riding the airship you'll just be teleporting through picture of one for gil instead of anima

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Currently. I believe they've already stated that they are planning to make it non-instantaneous down the road. Get your facts straight.

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Originally Posted by Ichi

lets clarify none of you will be riding the airship you'll just be teleporting through picture of one for gil instead of anima

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Is it any different from XI when people would go to where the airship docks to pick up, put their character on auto run so that it'd get on the ship then afk for 20 minutes to avoid having to watch their character ride the airship again?

The devs have said they have plans to make an airship experience with other related content. It was just a matter of resource management. Why take the time to crate a birds-eye view experience when they'd have to redo the whole thing once they redesign the maps?

They gave us a means to get between cities fast. So to clarify, it is riding an airship, but they entirety of the experience, like the rest of the game, still is in development.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

As was said, fees are based on highest level, this tiered system is the a good way to get gil out of the system which is badly needed.

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I'd have to ride the airship 33.6 thousand times to end up being skint.

Its hardly an economy gold digger

If i used it 5 times a day thats still 6720 days or 18 years lol i think i'll get 5k plenty of times in that time :D

Then as people dont have as much as i do, I'd say most have about 10m or more, then its still almost 2 years to drain the money of 1 person.

You could fly to Grid, do the leves and already have about 15 returning flights lol

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Originally Posted by viion

I'd have to ride the airship 33.6 thousand times to end up being skint.

Its hardly an economy gold digger

If i used it 5 times a day thats still 6720 days or 18 years lol i think i'll get 5k plenty of times in that time :D

Then as people dont have as much as i do, I'd say most have about 10m or more, then its still almost 2 years to drain the money of 1 person.

You could fly to Grid, do the leves and already have about 15 returning flights lol

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While this is likely true, you're only taking the airship into account. They've been introducing more and more gilsinks over time and while one alone may not do much, together they can make a serious dent. There's nothing that's going to completely drain people who have been playing and saving since launch. However these gil sinks may help keep more people from getting there, especially new players.

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Originally Posted by viion

I'd have to ride the airship 33.6 thousand times to end up being skint.

Its hardly an economy gold digger

If i used it 5 times a day thats still 6720 days or 18 years lol i think i'll get 5k plenty of times in that time :D

Then as people dont have as much as i do, I'd say most have about 10m or more, then its still almost 2 years to drain the money of 1 person.

You could fly to Grid, do the leves and already have about 15 returning flights lol

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But its a start, if they get 500 people taking the airship once thats 2,500,000 gil taken out of the system, then you think of any other methods they add as a gil sink including the new npc repairs and it starts to stack up.

Then you go to the wards to buy somthing then that gil spreads around, while your still using the facilities intended as gil sinks.

This moves gil around and takes it out of the system.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

But its a start, if they get 500 people taking the airship once thats 2,500,000 gil taken out of the system, then you think of any other methods they add as a gil sink including the new npc repairs and it starts to stack up.

Then you go to the wards to buy somthing then that gil spreads around, while your still using the facilities intended as gil sinks.

This moves gil around and takes it out of the system.

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Then them 500 go do a guildleve get 20k reward and thats now 10m put back into the economy =D, gilsinks dont work on a whole when theres to many counter balances to the individual user. Because what one persons outcome is, will be the result of all users outcome.

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Originally Posted by viion

Then them 500 go do a guildleve get 20k reward and thats now 10m put back into the economy =D, gilsinks dont work on a whole when theres to many counter balances to the individual user. Because what one persons outcome is, will be the result of all users outcome.

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Thats simple to fix, just change the algorithm that dictates leve reward to have the higher rewards even lower chance, so you might have to do about 20 leves before you see the higher rewards (20/1), then if you take the 15k needed to travel between all cities to see the rewards, then going to the cities with higher rewards which could take awhile to get, then that is sorted, every day you have people spending 15k to get a 10k reward every 20 days and it would work.

The 20 days would be a lil too much but it gives the idea.

It may not be the largest gold-sink but at least it is draining the ever increasing ammount of gil out of the system somewhat.

Basically, 1-2 Guildleve = 1 Airship ride.

Seems like a fair trade to me.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Thats simple to fix, just change the algorithm that dictates leve reward to have the higher rewards even lower chance, so you might have to do about 20 leves before you see the higher rewards (20/1), then if you take the 15k needed to travel between all cities to see the rewards, then going to the cities with higher rewards which could take awhile to get, then that is sorted, every day you have people spending 15k to get a 10k reward every 20 days and it would work.

The 20 days would be a lil too much but it gives the idea.

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Hmm, I dont quite understand, why would someone only do 1 leve then go to another city?

If you have 3 in Uldah you ignore that, so you go to camp and you get say 10k per leve, thats 30k. You fly to Limsa your down to 25k you do 3 leves for 10k each your now on 45k you fly to Grid now on 40k and you do 2 leves for 20k and now your on 60k.

You've spent 10k in travelling to get 60k. Airship Costing only a nice 6%, You could just do "Return" to get back for free or pay another 5k down to 55k. As most have chocobos and using it, i doubt people be wasting anima as much as they do now so they could use anima instead of paying airship fee, thus thats slightly balancing it out.

Then all your repair costs will most likely come from other things your selling.

Only people it will affect is new and those that dont make any money at all in anyway. And the new people will slowly pull themselfs out of that struggle because their gain rate is much, much higher than their loss rate.

And Also adding onto new people, those may even not take an airship or use it much because they dont have the gil thus the system is not taking any money out of the economy from those players as they not even using any on the system lol.

There are way to many gains. Its like this game rains money 24/7 and drains are not reliable. The only gil sinks that will work is when they are exceedingly high.

Considering SE is going down the road of a lot of rare/ex gear boss drops, it will be tough.

Just wait till they make an event where you need to pay 1million gil to enter (AKA: Dynamis) lawls

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

Just wait till they make an event where you need to pay 1million gil to enter (AKA: Dynamis) lawls

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Yeh something like that will help, but the problem with that is. In my years and years of playing XI, I never once, ever paid for a run lol. I had zero interest in relics, so the system did not take any money from me, or the other 30 people that joined. Just the 1 guy who paid.

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eh something like that will help, but the problem with that is. In my years and years of playing XI, I never once, ever paid for a run lol. I had zero interest in relics, so the system did not take any money from me, or the other 30 people that joined. Just the 1 guy who paid.

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Which still means 1 million drained per run. And guess who will pay once "that one guy" refuses to? The cost will be shared among those joining the run... or a rich sponsor who is desperate for relics... in any case, currency is siphoned. Which is exactly what we desperately need. Airship fees are peanuts.

I don't mind the fee's at all, they are fine with me! :D

Too expensive if you ask me. The prices should be half your level. Not everyone has 5 million gil to spend on stuff.

Honestly people have done nothing but make gil for the last year lol so this is a good way to burn through some of the piles of gil that people have accumulated.

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

Good way to get gil out of the economy, and the tiered system is a fair way to do that. People that have been playing longer tend to have more money.

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I think Yoshi-P should come to America and redo the IRS.