So I may make a topic about this for each class I play but I would like to know what macros the bard comunity use at lvl 50 now that we have new skills. I use a controler(ps4). For example I had all my buffs in a macro an was hearing that was good in earlier versions anyways what macros do bards use now.
Bard Macro lvl 60
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07-25-2015, 06:18 AMliljramos88Bard Macro lvl 60
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07-25-2015, 07:08 AMSlyRoyale
Don't use macros ever. They don't allow you to queue up skills and abilities when they're about to come off cooldown.
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07-25-2015, 07:16 AMSessurea
I once used that buff macro...and my dps was terrible. Really, if you want to play bard seriously, give up this idea of macros now. It will just give you bad habits you will eventually have to break, and THEN you will have to learn to bloodletter manually, which isn't even hard, so start now.
bards already have to play quite well to do acceptable dps, don't make your life harder. -
07-25-2015, 08:23 AMAskaRay
This is my list of macros I use when I play my bard:
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(the list is empty)
Edit: real answer
I use a controller (Xbox) with my PC, I just like it better. I use the extended Crossbar as well, has my "oh shit" second wind button as well as WM (easy access to turn on and off) and my Barrage, even Invigorate... on my second hotbar is songs and AOE stuff. All the other stuff fits on my first hotbar, yes, even the new skills + each buff individually. It's very nice. -
07-25-2015, 01:24 PMCivilrant
I dont encourage macros, but....
/macroicon "Heavy Shot"
/ac "Misery's End" <t>
/ac "Bloodletter" <t>
/ac "Empyreal Arrow" <t>
/ac "Barrage" <me>
/ac "Misery's End" <t>
/ac "Heavy Shot" <t>
/ac "Internal Release" <me>
/ac "Raging Strikes" <me>
/ac "Hawk's Eye" <me> -
07-25-2015, 02:22 PMAskaRayThe One Button Bard Macro, now updated with WMQuote:
Originally Posted by Civilrant
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07-25-2015, 11:42 PMKatchoo
Man people really ride Macro users hard. It's not even that big of a deal, just because you use a macro does not mean you can't do things manually AS WELL. It's just a little easing for those people who don't have the reactions of E-sports player on speed.
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07-26-2015, 12:16 AMrappa
You make me cry
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07-26-2015, 12:45 AMKatchooYeah yeah, everybody who does not use a macro is amazing and those who do just flat out suck right? Don't care. I use it, i'm not a burden to my static, i can pass the DPS checks and it allows me to play how i want. Would my DPS be slightly better without it? Yeah definitely. Would i be more stressed and have less fun? Yeah definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by rappa
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07-26-2015, 01:18 AMRiceisNice
Macros are even less feasible with cast times. It went from "you'll get a little bit if DPS loss if you clip your oGCDs" to "You'll get a dps loss because you will clip your oGCDs"
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07-26-2015, 01:28 AMSessurea
Doing an ogcd due to macro button spam when you should be doing a gcd is a hard dps loss.
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07-26-2015, 02:20 AMInuk9
You can use macros for your opener or something I think, but even that, I won't recomend.
I am a PS4 user too and found a way to set up all new skills in 2 sixteen-slots bars. -
07-26-2015, 03:14 AMMikedizzy
Do not use macros...just don't. All kinds of bad.
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07-26-2015, 03:26 AMrappaWhy play using a hand when you have two?Quote:
Originally Posted by Katchoo
Dps check? Probably 2.0 or doing expert.
Primal extremes, alex nm or savage, you will not pass the dps check. -
07-26-2015, 03:33 AMSessureaNo this is the worst time to use macros. Don't give people bad advice ;_;Quote:
Originally Posted by Inuk9
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07-26-2015, 08:08 AMWelsper59I think you overestimate how detrimental macros are lol. Unless of course we're talking about some all encompassing macro that has every single ability tied in and only makes you do Heavy Shot as a result. Simple ones like that Misery's End/Bloodletter one don't affect DPS as much as you might think for necessity outside of Savage. You'll do a bit lower using it, but it's not going to be a difference of 0 output for using macros to 1000+ without lol. The sky is not falling for using macros. Definitely don't use it if you're struggling on DPS checks or in progression Savage though. People treat harmless playstyles in content that isn't causing problems for them (even if it means 1min more on a dungeon run) as though it were ebola. Time to freak out!Quote:
Originally Posted by rappa
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07-26-2015, 09:09 AMBlasteIf thats the case which macro is safe to use for level 60 BRD?Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsper59
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07-26-2015, 08:56 PMKatchooSomebody with a sensible outlook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsper59
I wonder how people who don't use a Macro know that people who do use Macro can't pass DPS checks?Quote:
Primal extremes, alex nm or savage, you will not pass the dps check.
We will see. I'll come back to you when is my static start savage. -
07-27-2015, 02:46 AMAkashiXI
I have a Battle Voice macro for raid reasons, and I put RS/IR/HE/BfB on one macro (not in that order). You'll be able to weave your CDs without any lag, otherwise everything else is manual.
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07-27-2015, 02:55 AMCinicus
This game just has to many "activated" abilities. I have really come to like the style that ESO and Wildstar uses. 5-10 activated abilities is really all that is needed. What are we gonna do when we are lvl 70 or 80...wont even be able to support controllers any more lol.
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07-27-2015, 04:28 PMruskie
Only macro that wasn't a plain utility(aka /p I'm doing something with mah skills to help out") that I used(after the whole one button everything crap I tried and dismissed in like 5s) was BL+ME on the same button. And that worked for the most part. But eventually even got rid of that. So now the only macro I still have is battle voice and I might even get rid of that.
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07-28-2015, 06:34 AMNangaYeah, I must be an anomaly. I macro everything due to a war injury limiting my hand use. I also wreck Ravana-ex in my sleep, as well as Alex-NM. Yep, my DPS is a little behind other bards for A1 Savage, but heck...my missing 75dps is not the reason we were unable to get under 10%. Healers were OOM, tanks had wasted their CD's at bad times, and were collapsing way too early.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katchoo
I get compliments from many DF groups on how well I do the "bard thing", being johnny-on-the-spot with the right songs, at the right time, for the right durations, etc. Contributing to the group's overall effectiveness, more efficiently than most, more than makes up for my missing ultra min-max 75dps.
In other words: anyone who subscribes to the notion that bards who macro are a disability to their group, are just wrong. It's a notion by super elitists who can't stand spending an extra minute doing the same content they cleared one less minute the day before.
Not everyone is pro. Nor is everyone playing for the pleasure of other people. It's a game, enjoy!
EDIT PS: as a side note, I left other games for how "e-sporty" and ultra-competitive the playerbase had become. Please don't let FFXIV turn in to that. Resist it all you can, because those types of players (the toxic ones) tend to shy away from this game already because it's not so quickly rewarding as others. -
07-28-2015, 06:40 AMGeardagas
I play on the PS4 *dodges tomatoes and rocks thrown at him* and I know how annoying it can be to switch back and forth between bars, but its necessary. I experimented with the buff macros and they are without a doubt a DPS loss. However,
/ac "Bloodletter"
/ac "Misery's End"
/ac "Heavy Shot"
is ok to use. I know you'll be tempted to throw sidewinder into this, but it's a bad idea. You really don't want to be accidentally sidewindering dotless adds. -
07-28-2015, 07:02 AMKaze3434adding wanderers into the mix, macros for bard are dead. there isnt a need to switch between cross bars at all. use the expanded cross bar, giving you 32 easy to hit spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geardagas
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07-28-2015, 07:18 AMGeardagasHow does wm effect a macro that only has one cast-time ability worked into it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaze3434
I'm not arguing with you, i'm legitimately asking. -
07-28-2015, 08:21 AMm3eanseanYour static is carrying you if you are macro'ing GCD abilities. You are severely limiting your dps, as the wait time between each action will now be 3 seconds. The game does not register tenths of a second in macro commands and will always round up. A wait time of 2.4 will be actually 3 seconds on the server end and it will consume your dps potential incredibly by adding nearly half a second to each skill you use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katchoo
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07-28-2015, 08:24 AMMedievalBeing competitive is not "toxic" being toxic is toxic. It's like when you're giving shit for being a "try hard", yes I'm trying. Why the hell aren't you? You also are gimping your team by using macros. If 7 others rely on you to try your hardest and you go the easy route instead of the correct route you are definitely being a hindrance if the content is difficult enough to where you are expected to do all you can to progress. Now if you have an injury and it isn't out of laziness I have no quarrel. If it's due to inability, then you shouldn't do the hardest content in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanga
TLDR: It only becomes a problem when you are expected to do your utmost to maximize your dps for difficult content. -
07-28-2015, 10:45 AMNangaQuote:
Originally Posted by Medieval
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It's like when you're giving shit for being a "try hard", yes I'm trying. Why the hell aren't you?
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You also are gimping your team by using macros.
Talking to people like this are all examples of toxic behavior. Take a good look at why you felt the need to cuss at me, call me names, and negatively describe how I play due to my disability...much less mock me for my disabilities. I mean, really. You basically told me I don't belong playing this game, the way I choose to play - with other people, because of my combat injury.Quote:
If 7 others rely on you to try your hardest and you go the easy route instead of the correct route you are definitely being a hindrance if the content is difficult enough to where you are expected to do all you can to progress. Now if you have an injury and it isn't out of laziness I have no quarrel. If it's due to inability, then you shouldn't do the hardest content in the game.
You chose to come at me with a very toxic attitude, rather than just accept the fact that not everyone is a pro player, and their reasons for it are okay. It shouldn't bother you, so why let it bother you to the point of replying in a manner that is demeaning and...well...toxic? I never described competitiveness as being toxic. I said "those types of players", and then elaborated further by pulling a subset of players out of "those types of players". Your reply shows you belong to that subset: one of the toxic players, in the group of pro players.
PS: just an anecdote, I played on a JP server for a long time, and let me tell ya, it was hard to earn their acceptance into their community, being an english-only speaking American. As much as it pains me to say it, and I don't fault them for it, they don't typically "like" us playing on their servers for some fairly obvious reasons. My experience there really put things into perspective of how folks should treat each other in a game. They are some really wonderful people to play with. Ultimately, it was only the ever-growing language barrier, and mostly the severely low population the server had become, that had me changing to US.
I just invite you to say to yourself: You know, not everyone can be the best at this game. Or any game, for that matter. And that's okay. They're having fun. -
07-28-2015, 12:04 PMMedievalYou is a broad term. It's also a generalization. It was not specifically targeted at you. Injury and inability are also not mutually exclusive. When I say ineptitude I mean lack of ability rather than a disability. The hardest content in the game shouldn't be doable by everyone at release, and it should be at a level of difficulty that if one can't do everything within the limits of the game they don't advance. I'm sorry that you were hurt serving whatever country you are in, but it doesn't change the fact that if you use macros for this game you are not playing optimally, which is fine for 99% of this game, but isn't useful for savage, or at least shouldn't be until echos are in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanga
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07-30-2015, 07:30 AMKaze3434its the way skill queuing works. you would have to wait the full 2.5+- duration of your gcd to recast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geardagas
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08-02-2015, 08:50 AMnexas506
Here's the only bard macro i use.
/ac windbite
<wait.16>
/echo <se.7>
I use vanom bite first, wait for the gcd, then use windbite. This way i hear a ping to remind me to use them again.
I find it easier than trying to keep track of when my DoTs are gonna run out