Theory of why pvp will NOT be fixed~

As far as que times/ grand company stuff goes, even as things stand now..would say its here to stay. Reason: Because they work juuuuust fine...on JP datacenters. No..I have no way to prove any of this..just a theory. But a few thoughts come to mind.

When I was on Tonberry server briefly, I couldn't so much as use the bathroom during jp primetime between matches. Yeah..pops were literally that fast. I dunno..maybe JPs just enjoy pvp more than NAs/EUs in general? (Basing this off the fact that in ff11, though Ballista had all but died out on NA based servers, it was strong til the last on JP heavy ones) If this werent true...think about what would happen to pvp if all the lures/rewards were tossed out the window. How many would still pvp if no fancy glams or tomes to look forward to? The que times are the way they are for a sad reason ;/

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Originally Posted by Vaeria

As far as que times/ grand company stuff goes, even as things stand now..would say its here to stay. Reason: Because they work juuuuust fine...on JP datacenters.

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Actually, last i checked the JP forums, there were a similar amount of posts and threads asking for the GC restriction to be removed as we have on this section of the forums

it works fine over their because there is a giant pvp community on gaia, but they still undertstand how dumb the restriction is

The reason is to make grind take longer for those who care about vanity etc. I can see no other reason. Sure it kinda creates communities, but I'd rather be able to play than wait 40-50 mins with a community.

By now I have already switched GC 4 times; there is nothing holding me in a single GC.

se are probably too proud of their stupid gc system to admit it's broken. And yh broken for us means nothing if it works fine on jp datacentre.

inb4: usual idiots saying to switch gc etc.

I think most try PVP once, decide they don't like it and don't give it another go. I wasn't fond of it at first but now I have no care for the gear it rewards. It is loads of fun, even when you are on the losing side, it's the only thing on the game you can lose at and still get a few rewards.

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Originally Posted by Ortamus

I think most try PVP once, decide they don't like it and don't give it another go. I wasn't fond of it at first but now I have no care for the gear it rewards. It is loads of fun, even when you are on the losing side, it's the only thing on the game you can lose at and still get a few rewards.

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And it's different each time. Not like PvE which basically is learning dancing moves to pop music lol *cough*alexander*cough* </kindasarcastic>

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Originally Posted by Guesswhat

And it's different each time. Not like PvE which basically is learning dancing moves to pop music lol *cough*alexander*cough* </kindasarcastic>

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Well, I kinda enjoy raiding because it's at least challenging.

That said this is what keeps me coming back to PvP. Dungeons are literally boring to the point of tears.

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And it's different each time. Not like PvE which basically is learning dancing moves to pop music lol *cough*alexander*cough* </kindasarcastic>

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With only one map PvP isnt much better.

If they had a variety of maps and modes then this might hold weight but atm playing the same map and mode over and over makes it little better than PvE in terms of roteness.

I don't think they'll remove the gc restrictions. I saw a theory on this somewhere though I don't remember where. Ishgard is now staged to be a 4th gc. It's possible that this will be a merc gc, where people queueing as ishgardian will fill in the ranks of whichever gc is needed to start the match. I thought this idea would be perfect and really hope this is what they do.

Also could do a new type of PvP that is fc vs fc.

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I don't think they'll remove the gc restrictions. I saw a theory on this somewhere though I don't remember where. Ishgard is now staged to be a 4th gc. It's possible that this will be a merc gc, where people queueing as ishgardian will fill in the ranks of whichever gc is needed to start the match. I thought this idea would be perfect and really hope this is what they do.

Also could do a new type of PvP that is fc vs fc.

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If true then what is to stop everyone from queing as Ishgardian?

As C'eve said, not only has the Japanese community suggested we remove GC restrictions, but they have a post with 72 likes with this suggestion, far more likes any I've ever seen on any post on the american PvP forums.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%8B%EF%BC%9F

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Originally Posted by Timat

If true then what is to stop everyone from queing as Ishgardian?

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I don't see that as a problem. The people that are more into PvP would obviously all join ishgard and fill in the gaps on all sides while people who like sticking with their respective gcs can stay that way.

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I don't see that as a problem. The people that are more into PvP would obviously all join ishgard and fill in the gaps on all sides while people who like sticking with their respective gcs can stay that way.

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You don't think others will change GC's because of the new Ishgardian rewards as well as the fact that it would be new content?

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Originally Posted by Blubbers

As C'eve said, not only has the Japanese community suggested we remove GC restrictions, but they have a post with 72 likes with this suggestion, far more likes any I've ever seen on any post on the american PvP forums.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81%8B%EF%BC%9F

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In general discussion we have a remove gc restriction petition over 180 likes 140+ posts 0 dev response :(

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-Want-Change

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In general discussion we have a remove gc restriction petition over 180 likes 140+ posts 0 dev response :(

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...on-Want-Change

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There have been other threads of similar (or even higher) popularity and support that have gone completely ignored. Sadly.

Aye its the most recent attempt xD

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With only one map PvP isnt much better.

If they had a variety of maps and modes then this might hold weight but atm playing the same map and mode over and over makes it little better than PvE in terms of roteness.

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Yes, well my point is that most PvE is about learning patterns. There is little AI involved. It's true that PvP lacks variation.

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You don't think others will change GC's because of the new Ishgardian rewards as well as the fact that it would be new content?

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Of course many would, but I don't see how that would in any way effect the PvP negatively with the system I explained. It would only fill up the missing people for a match as hired mercs. They'd be fighting for the flames, adders or maelstrom, but get ishgardian seals instead.

When they said that the 3.0 FL would still maintain the GC restriction I hoped that they atleast implemented the IShgardian GC, maintaining anyway the FLs content a GC vs GC vs GC content but picking up ther first 3 GC among 4 that has 8 or 24 man in que, so atleast they mitigate the bottleneck GC company.

For example if Maeltrom has far more players in queue and adders are not queuing the next two FL pop would be:
Maelstrom vs Ishgardian vs Immortal
Maelstrom vs Adder vs Immortal

This will not fix the queue time, it will just help it a little, but in my opionion if they want to mantain this GC resctriction, they HAVE TO implement all the possible adjustment to make it decent, up to now they totally ignored it!
They could implement this like a bonus in the DR Frontline for GC in need!
I'll run as fast as I can in FL if I know that I will have a lower pop time cause to start it they need players from my GC.
And some other ideas that they "are taking in consideration" .... -.-