Really dislike my extreme dungeon experiences.

I thought garuda is hard but holy hell, even titan is beyond frustrating as this fight with the people that I am actually randomly pugged into, has become the worst experience of my entire dungeon gameplay.

My story is that I just got started with Garuda on extreme and it took me at least two dungeon queues to actually get that extreme difficulty to get it finished. Now I finally unlocked the Titan Extreme and thought it was going to be fun, but that fun end up making me want to punch my monitor and do severe acts of self harm towards myself.
I have attempted 4 tries on trying to do Titan and still continue to fail, mostly because of the negative nancies that I am tied with that want to spam the abandon vote after 3 wipes, and will end up trolling the whole group by purposely jumping out the circle to purposely die...

I also dislike fighting Titan because the mechanics are way to difficult, I am sometimes nearly 1 second away from being safe on those landslides as I have to react fast most of the time considering I am a melee ninja, same thing applies with the weight of the land attacks as well. If I am lucky, I survive after the heart stage and into the point where I have to kill those adds and play russian roulette with the bomb boulders. Those that kill me mostly and the group just scattered like crazy. I heardly ever entered the last stage after the adds...

As a melee if you absolutely know you can't get away. Run to the Mt for landslide. Just make sure u get out fast because of mountain buster

From your join date, it appears you're quite new to the game. Here's a few tips that will help:

Take some time to get to know a few different groups of people in-game and run content with them. This will go a long way to solving your duty finder issues. The dungeons and raid content are not meant to be a solo experience, regardless of what people on these forums may try to tell you.

Practice practice practice. A lot players pretend that they never did something stupid and wiped on a difficult raid- these are the same people screwing up repeatedly in the current endgame and pointing fingers at everyone else instead of accepting failure and learning from it. The more you fail, the better you'll get if you take something away from each failure.

Watch raid guide videos on YouTube- people like Mr Happy and MTQ Capture(my fav) have tons of videos detailing every raid encounter in the game, these really should be your go to source when learning a fight.

Try multiple jobs, choose one or two that you enjoy playing and level and gear them. This way when a particular piece of content becomes frustrating or you get bored, you can step back, have a change of pace and keep things fresh.

Finally, this isn't WoW...it isn't FFXI, it isn't Eve Online, Everquest, Aion, SWTOR, TESO, DCUO or TERA. It's a unique and sometimes difficult game, so forget your expectations of how you think the game should play. If one thing is too complex or just isn't fun, do something else. Try everything and just enjoy the game- if you're like me, you may discover that you enjoy parts of the game you never thought you would.

Don't worry, You'll get it. Took me about three months to beat Titan. With random groups, party finder, and even my static. Nothing worked. Eventually my ffriend got fed up and carried me through.. ugh. The rest of the extremes I cleared same day with my static. Easy.

It's just that one battle for me. Never doing it again. Titan is evil.

Welcome to the titan gate. At one point they said their stats showed that 70% of the population was stuck at one form of titan or another. Shortly after this they removed the requirements for leviathan and mog ex.

How old is this content? And people think that's too hard? lol Guess you won't be doing the other extremes then and you probably shouldn't. Extremes aren't meant for everyone.

just 4 tries and you are "frustrated"? Take your time to learn the fight with the fellow new player you getting pug with.

I've been playing this game since 2.0's launch and still haven't beaten Titan EX.
Titan is a b****. :D

It's really just a case of learning his rotation it doesn't change. Learn it,be prepared and learn to see the fight. Most people die because they tunnel vision and don't dodge properly. Titan will do the exact same moves in every phase nothing ever changes at all.

Titan is the easiest primal, though...

You can't take extra-damage from random stuff like in Garuda EX. Ifrit EX is a headache for healers. Ramuh EX is just awful because it requires a coordination between tanks, DPS and healers, and I don't expect this to happen, ugh. In Titan, meh, he's just a lag-happy-monster.

I cleared Titan EX 4-5 times with 1.5-2 sec lag just because I knew his rotation. I had to eat a landslide in P2 to survive (sounds weird, I know), but I cleared him.

Firs thing to note: Because of xpac there will be less people running Titan EX most likely, and those who are, most likely don't have a lot of exp in it right now either.

Second thing to note: Every wipe gets you more exp in there, learning his pattern. Titan EX is one big pattern with just enough randomness thrown in to keep it a little interesting. Get everyone to stack up under Titan except for the MT removes a good deal of the random from the fight as well.

What others have said: Titan is a 100% scripted fight. Once you've learned his rotation, you can prepare yourself to dodge Landslide or Weights before they even happen.

I have a potato computer that suffers massive framerate drop during Weights and I can still clear Titan because I know when they're about to happen and can be ready to dodge before they even appear on the screen.

It is "Extreme" mode, it is not meant to be a walk in the park. Watch some videos and practice. Dodging is more important that dps in there.

I've have looked up youtube videos on titan, and followed the steps up to phase 4, the impossible phase. I've done 7 attempts and all of them continue to fail. I am continued to get grouped to people who have crap pc that can barely run the game, and crap connection that make them always die on phase 1 and 2... Group to people who can't follow simple instruction that basically result to a wipe, and continue to press the abandonment button or even take the penelty and left the group after the third attempt, dragging us down demoralize the whole team and waste more minutes on the fucking timer trying to group which probably cost around 20 fucking minutes.

Seriously this Extreme is not fun at all and even more frusterating for me.

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I've been playing this game since 2.0's launch and still haven't beaten Titan EX.
Titan is a b****. :D

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With the gear now you can skip so many attacks of all those old Primals. Run with mostly all your FC mates and friends though, randoms in those old EX Primals are awful.
I thought this was going to be about Bismarck and Ravana XD.

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With the gear now you can skip so many attacks of all those old Primals. Run with mostly all your FC mates and friends though, randoms in those old EX Primals are awful.
I thought this was going to be about Bismarck and Ravana XD.

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Our FC does do older EX runs for those of use who haven't beaten them yet but Titan is always the one that gives us trouble. The first timers (and a good chunk of the old timers) always get really bad lag, getting hit well after attacks have already happened, when they are out of their AoEs. Personally I wish SE would update the fight so that it would be as smooth as Leviathan and Ravana, in terms of lag and attack delay, maybe remove the who long fall for a ring out mechanic like the other two.

You can't dodge as a ninja??
You either need to improve your reaction time, or get off the PS3.

Don't let the most difficult optional content in the game spoil your enjoyment. My own way of dealing with it is to not feel like I must clear 100% of all content. It's great if the right opportunity arises and good people are available to help, but if not there's plenty of other things to enjoy. I think Titan is the easiest primal too. Mechanically there isn't much going on, but it's impossible if people have lag. To ease the difficulty of finding 8 good people you can just get a smaller number of overgeared and overleveled people to challenge it with the undersized party option.

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Originally Posted by Darkedone02

Seriously this Extreme is not fun at all and even more frusterating for me.

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Then take a break from it, not everything in the game is meant for every player. The Extremes are made for the ones who really like a challenge, the ones who like to persevere through what you find bad enough to make this thread, and conquer it. If you don't like a part of a game, you probably shouldn't play it, it will make you dislike the game. That or take a break from it, learn your job inside and out, and then go back with a PF group. Titan still isn't very successful in DF because you will always have a couple that want to be carried, and titan isn't friendly to that. Most of the people blaming it on lag are just making excuses btw, you have to be on point in there, and a lot don't get that.

Tried that fight in DF on my alt, and it went HORRIBLY.
I used to have a pretty good success rate in DT back in March-May, but now it's filled with......people that make it very hard to clear.

I'm sorry for your frustration, OP; it took me about three months to both get skilled enough to challenge Titan EX personally and find a group that could do the same.

The Extreme primals are not content meant to be cleared by everyone. They're a distinctive step up from the main story and 4-man content and a lot more demanding on players in general. The first three EX Primals all test different skillsets - Garuda EX tests your tanks and your DPS' ability to control the direction they're pointed in. Titan EX tests raw reaction time and pattern memorization. Ifrit EX will test your ability to coordinate and awareness of the positions of your allies.


While many players do consider Titan simple (And they're pretty accurate - the fight itself is mechanically very light), the fact is that he mandates a level of reaction and - more important - memorization that you almost certainly haven't encountered up to this point. Because of how punishing it is on mistakes, and the necessity of a certain minimum of damage dealers surviving, it's also very difficult to clear in Duty Finder, where you really can't count on anyone queued up to be able to hold their own. As a result, many players don't clear Titan EX.

The important thing to remember is that in no way is Titan Extreme mandatory, and he never will be.

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Originally Posted by Anubis_Nephthys

You can't dodge as a ninja??
You either need to improve your reaction time, or get off the PS3.

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I don't even own this game on PS3 or PS4, and I can actually dodge but the timing is so fast, expectually with other people are spread out and not stacked properly, causing those explosive radius to feel up most of the floor and little navigation and bad quickthinking. The moment I see those on the floor is the time that I react on moving the fuck out, but that just 3-4 seconds of reaction time. Same with the landslide... and I see many people with piss poor movement that cannot even dodge. I have this one mage who can't dodge those landslide for shit, all the time in phase 1 and 2 he be the first to die. An Ranger had the same issue, where he contently dying by landslide on phase 1 and 2...

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I'm sorry for your frustration, OP; it took me about three months to both get skilled enough to challenge Titan EX personally and find a group that could do the same.

The Extreme primals are not content meant to be cleared by everyone. They're a distinctive step up from the main story and 4-man content and a lot more demanding on players in general. The first three EX Primals all test different skillsets - Garuda EX tests your tanks and your DPS' ability to control the direction they're pointed in. Titan EX tests raw reaction time and pattern memorization. Ifrit EX will test your ability to coordinate and awareness of the positions of your allies.


While many players do consider Titan simple (And they're pretty accurate - the fight itself is mechanically very light), the fact is that he mandates a level of reaction and - more important - memorization that you almost certainly haven't encountered up to this point. Because of how punishing it is on mistakes, and the necessity of a certain minimum of damage dealers surviving, it's also very difficult to clear in Duty Finder, where you really can't count on anyone queued up to be able to hold their own. As a result, many players don't clear Titan EX.

The important thing to remember is that in no way is Titan Extreme mandatory, and he never will be.

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it's good it's not mandatory at all

People get frustrated because they get wiped by instant kills. Not because of lack of skill, but because all bosses have 1 hit kill attacks that makes you instant fail.

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People get frustrated because they get wiped by instant kills. Not because of lack of skill, but because all bosses have 1 hit kill attacks that makes you instant fail.

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Do you mean enrages? Hitting those is the definition of a lack of skill, because they indicate that the core of your group (the four DPS and the two tanks) are not optimizing their damage sufficiently to kill a boss before the enrage.

Sadly this is the nature of duty finder group. This game is heavily catered to the casuals, which is very nice, but at the same time, many many many players have very little idea on how to play the roles. They hardly do any dungeons endgame, and not familiar with how the mechanic works on those extreme battles. Casuals with very little experience doing endgame (and not very good or knowledgeable on mechanics) will cause you to wipe over and over and over and over. As others have posted, you may have to start making friends and form a static group here, or you will not go far on harder content in the game.

Two words: Undersized Party

Setup an undersized party.. 4 min kills (4man) on all EX primals, 3 mins (6man), under 2 mins (full party)

You only need 1 tank and 1 healer..

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I also dislike fighting Titan because the mechanics are way to difficult

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this is old content. SE added at least 75% echo to that fight and gave people armor that's 50+ ilvl's above the original content. You might be new to the game, but if you still have problems with that fight, maybe you should look for people you can practice with or should look up some guides for it. At the end of the day, nobody runs these trials anymore since they are just plain boring, but reading that you think they are to difficult made me laugh.

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Originally Posted by Atorimansea

As a melee if you absolutely know you can't get away. Run to the Mt for landslide. Just make sure u get out fast because of mountain buster

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I wouldn't recommend that. There's a chance of still being knocked off. Landslide is one of his easier attacks to avoid imo. It's Weight of the Land that is the killer.

I don't blame OP's frustration. Went into DF extreme Titan to help people get some wins. There are people at 60 who haven't beat Titan yet.
I couldn't understand how at first but then we had two just jumping off and then the next df I went into the healers were typing so much they got landslided off every try.