The threads have become really serious as of late so I wanted to do a light-hearted thread and just see what SE games alot of you have played. I've been playing videogames since '85 and I instantly fell in love with rpg's. During the 90's Square was at the top of their game in that genre. I just wanted to know from the community what would you like to see? Also, even though I said MMO, I will take sequel request as well. Only stipulation, lets keep answers to games made by SquareEnix/Squaresoft, just out of respect.
Now, I would love for them to do either a Crono Trigger MMO or a Crono Trigger sequel. I miss those characters. And who wouldn't want to tank as Frog?
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07-07-2015, 05:16 PMQiLymePyeWhat SE (or Squaresoft for you old heads) would you like to see as an MMO?
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07-07-2015, 05:23 PMLaerune
Secret of Mana or a Kingdom Hearts MMO. Disney + Square = Gold
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07-07-2015, 05:25 PMCyrus-Wallace
Well, you mentioned Chrono Trigger already. I'll just say Valkyrie Profile. Even if it was published by Enix back in the day, they got married and had this baby called "Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria", among other titles and ports.
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07-07-2015, 05:27 PMQiLymePyeSee, I agree with the Kingdom Hearts pick. To me, part of what makes a good MMO is the world its in. Kingdom Hearts has so many worlds, and as long as disney keeps making up more story worlds, SE can have infinite expansions. Would be cool to run around with different styles of Keyblades based on your class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laerune
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07-07-2015, 05:28 PMQiLymePyeOh wow, I forgot about Valkyrie Profile....yeah.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace
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07-07-2015, 05:29 PMAirelinna
Star Ocean!
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07-07-2015, 05:31 PMzcrash970
Personally I would love to see a MMO set in Ivalice or Star Ocean universe. I would love to level a symbologist and majoring in elements of fire, light, and dark spells.
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07-07-2015, 05:32 PMSaintAjora
Final Fantasy Tactics. We can all be heretics!
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07-07-2015, 05:33 PMQiLymePye+1 for you Miss!!!! Star Ocean 2 was the game that had me playing for weeks. Dias was my fav. character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airelinna
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07-07-2015, 05:33 PMMarxam
Not looking for an mmo but maybe a portable online adventure game similar to monster hunter for the vita. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles would be a great re-visit and I'm talking about the Gamecube version, not the crappy wii one. Isometric, diablo-esque material farming for better gear was what that game was about and it was fun partying with 4 ppl. They can even introduce the same job system in Tactics where you can play a class but have a secondary from another class i.e Knights with Summon ability from summoners etc. to add some variety. These types of games always do well in Japan so why not?
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07-07-2015, 05:41 PMQiLymePye
You know, there is a series that I felt if SE would have kept it and still had it to this day, they could have made it very good......Xenogears. I know Monolith did the xenosaga series, but xenogears was first and i like that sometimes you fought as a party and then you fought as a party in your mechs. WHAAATTT!!! And i thought the story from the whole entire series was amazing. imagine that as an MMO. people creating Fei's and KOS-MOS's and Citan was a beast. Hell, they had a beast...Rico. and Bart....*digs through old storage boxes looking for PSOne...*
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07-07-2015, 05:58 PMQiLymePye
I also dream of SE making a FFTactics-esque game that has a mashup of different SE characters from different games, like a huge crossover. I always dreamed of having a party consisting of Cloud, Sephiroth, Crono, and Musashi.
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07-07-2015, 06:04 PMZofis
While I have briefly thought about the potential for other Square Enix IPs to be converted into MMOs before, it's not something I'd particularly like to see happen until Dragon Quest X is localized.
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07-07-2015, 06:07 PMKisaiTenshiChrono Trigger, FF6 and Super Mario RPG are at the top of the list of games that are "too good for sequels" even though I'd love to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by QiLymePye
I've actually played all the FF games except 11. Hardware requirements never, ever aligned to be able to play it.
Chrono Trigger itself or at least something in the same spirit of Chrono Trigger (Ultima 2 could be considered it's spiritual predecessor, and even THAT was loosely based on the Time Travel element from the film Time Bandits. The thing all three have in common are time doors/portals that send the heros to places) would be a very hard thing to do as a MMORPG, but it also opens up some fun aspects that you can't normally do in other games.
Like, you know how instances are basically a way for the game to separate populations to prevent overload right? Well in a "time-travel" based MMORPG, you automatically invoke the multiverse. So as players "meddle more" with the timeline, they are sent from their starting "time", to "the past", and then to "present (instance X)" So players that chose to "save the girl" or whatever return to the "present" in a world where that happened, and those that didn't, go to an alternate reality. So you push the "storyline" by either doing, or undoing the past, or going into the future and learning of whatever dungeon that exists in the past and future. Thus allowing you to visit some of these places before they become ruins.
Chrono Trigger had 2300AD,1999AD (that you can't access),1000AD(starting point),600 AD, 12000BC, 65millionBC. So that makes at least 6 time periods.
But Chrono Trigger itself as a MMO could never work just because it's not large enough. It has enough storyline but it's replayability comes from new game+ which in a MMO is basically the act of "redo the storyline for giggles and no experience" -
07-07-2015, 06:11 PMQiLymePye
but they could expand the storyline. write more. I mean chono coss was expanding on pat of the story. it could work, the writers would have to write a good story
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07-07-2015, 06:16 PMGardesI was hoping that SE would eventually make an offline version of FF11 on ps3/4/vita with dissidia style combat system with less aerial emphasis and balanced around 4 player internet party play (while still having FFXI trappings like subjobs and all that) where'd you have the city hubs and maps based on the zones in FF11 and have missions and side missions based on the game's msqs and side stories. But instead we got nexon..Quote:
Originally Posted by Marxam
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07-07-2015, 06:17 PMAlistaireI remember when Square became Squaresoft...Quote:
Originally Posted by QiLymePye
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07-07-2015, 06:23 PMNoahArks
Chrono cross was sequel to Chrono Trigger. The story wasn't the same, gameplay was different, but a lot of aspects were the same. Chrono, Marle and Luca were part of the story. It's not a direct sequel, but it is a sequel.
[spoiler]At the end of Chrono Trigger lavos created a paradox, eventually making making Serge and Kid happen. Also the story is set 20-30 years after Chrono Trigger.[/spoiler] -
07-07-2015, 06:24 PMSpawnieloved tat game lets hope its on the horizonQuote:
Originally Posted by Airelinna
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07-07-2015, 06:35 PMHavenae
Final Fantasy Tactics all day. It's actually a game that was begging to be an MMO. It didn't focus so much on every named character being so special that it would be ridiculous to be a PC in an MMO. There was a lot of 'generic-ness ' while maintaining clear cut job identities regardless of who the character was. Plus the setting, world, and lore is awesome.
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07-07-2015, 07:12 PMIfritRebornAfter Star Ocean 3?! Pulling the biggest WTF twist in the history of videogames that affected the 2 games before it and came out of nowhere! Star Ocean 4 is another ball of confusion, an MMO in the mix with whatever left field story it would tell might blow my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airelinna
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07-07-2015, 07:16 PMDarkstorms
Would kill for a western release of dragon quest X
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07-07-2015, 07:17 PMQiLymePyeYeah, I definitely didn't see tat coming in Star Ocean 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by IfritReborn
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07-07-2015, 07:30 PMCGMidlander
Rad Racer. Lol
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07-07-2015, 07:32 PMWalielThis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace
Or this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airelinna
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07-07-2015, 08:04 PMKisaiTenshiBut then you'd get people complaining about retcons. Like the one thing we can rely on SquareEnix to not do, is remake-and-expand their old IP's. It took them 4 generations of Consoles just to port FF4,5,6 and CT to the iPad and FF7 to the PS4, that is without a promise of a remake. They didn't want to do FF7 again unless they can overhaul the snot out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by QiLymePye
And thus the issue is that we wouldn't see a "Chrono Trigger" as a MMO. We'd get something in the same spirit of it (as Chrono Cross was in the same spirit of Chrono Trigger, but it was based on some elements that were in Radical Dreamers which was the actual "sequel" for a SNES add-on before the PSX was ever available. So there are in fact "two" spin offs of Chrono Trigger) but single-player CRPG's don't translate well to MMORPG's, just look at all the market failures out there already.
Like I could see the premise working. The ability to travel to X time periods gives the game an easy path to expand. FFXIV-like dungeons can co-exist in different times simultaneously, thus instancing has a logical role in the overall storyline and world. Like if you want to exaggerate a bit. You could travel to a "unbuilt", "under construction", "new", "ruined", "destroyed" versions of each dungeon, whereby you might only be able to access certain parts of it from the UC or Ruined versions. So "completing" 600AD's "under construction" castle, would let you know where the secret rooms are, that you could then use in the 1000AD "new" castle, and also in a "ruined" version full of monsters.
The storyline from Chrono Trigger is a lot harder to shoehorn. It becomes way too theme-park MMORPG if you simply adapt the single player scenario and give everyone the same party members for solo-instance dungeons, because the storyline of Chrono Trigger was actually dependent, for the first half of the game of having Chrono being the lead character in the party, up until the other party members go back and save him. So that would simply never work in a MMORPG since you wouldn't play any secondary characters you don't create. Past that point in the game, sure I think it's doable. -
07-07-2015, 08:33 PMQiLymePye
^ But what I'm saying is that it doesn't have to be the same stories with the same characters. This is time travel, so essentially, they can make the player be sort of a hero that has to go back and forth through time to fix things after the events of CC or CT. And the characters in those games can just make cameo appearances. Don't forget, CC was as much about time travel as alternate dimensions. It could work, just having us, the player, playing in the world of CT/CC but not during the same time period or the same story.
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07-08-2015, 01:06 AMTerrini
Who's dissing Star Ocean as an MMORPG? Star Ocean 3 PROVES it's perfect as an MMORPG! We could get THE MMORPG story XD
But still, also big fan of Kingdom Hearts, but it would translate very similar to Ffxiv because there's a reason keybearers are rare... And of course everyone would want to be one. -
07-08-2015, 02:13 AMNephera
i doubt a nier mmo would work so secret of mana.
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07-08-2015, 02:15 AMDarrgo
dragon quest monsters as mmo
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07-08-2015, 02:15 AMTeryaaniRight there with you on Kingdom Hearts. So many possible places to explore.Quote:
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07-08-2015, 02:54 AMSkyfangRaussQuote:
Originally Posted by QiLymePye
dias was so incredibly broken. just spam illusion = win on virtually every boss. chisato was a close second
also, i'd like to see an MMO based around the final fantasy legend series (SaGa). legend 1 2 and 3 all have huge potential for mmo usage -
07-08-2015, 03:40 AMRyamatsu
FFXI Offline Cooperative Edition for PC/PS4/Xbox One
Game Model: Since FFXI is dying I would love to see it re-introduced as an offline game that can be played with friends cooperatively to re-live the story with upgraded gameplay and graphics to make is less “grindy” and more approachable.
Graphics and Interface: Have the guys that made the FFXIV interface overhaul the FFXI interface entirely from the ground up. Keep the same graphics but improve textures, character models, etc. by using FFXIV resources. Introduce DX11 to the graphics engine (PC version) for better shading and weather effects.
Gameplay: Your friends can bring over their character to help you and vice versa. If you want to play from start to finish with your significant other, you will be able to see all story elements and hang out in the world together without interruption or instances. Using FFXII as a reference point, I would like to use the Gambit system to help you control your party of 6. The Gambit system will allow you to customize what your AI partners will do to emulate what real FFXI players could’ve done. You can also give them personality traits similar to FFXIV’s retainer system allowing the AI members to communicate in character.