Bard Tunes: Ugh Not That Song Again!

At this point.
There is no denying that is a bard in the poster, and if I remember correct, bard was announced to be one of the released jobs. Stop trying trying to fight it, yes it is a bard. Yes, its half harp, half dagger, all bow. But I'm not writing to talk about weaponry.

I'm talking about our tunes man.
How boring is it when you hear the same song every time a bard plays a song. I for one desire variety. For instance, when playing a ballad (i.e mages ballad) or a minute (i.e valor minute) I'd sincerely hope there is a different type of song played for those types of skills. I'm not saying every skill needs a different song, just different song types. I LOVE music, and I don't want to see another music themed job play the same song over and over.

I really just cant get over it, that they're slamming a hard support class into a DD class and just washing out my favorite job. Hopefully my reaction to that "bow-harp" is way over the top, and SE finds a clever way to make a barcher actually really hard-core support. But something tells me... You can't just pooh on the archer like that. You are going to lose one of the roles, or have a generic and better-than-everyone class that fills too many roles.

but yea.. sweet tunes man. lets hope.

is there a link to the new bard job? not heard nothing about it. but i do agree diff music for each is cool, though i play my mmo's 90% of the time muted so i personally don't care. i still think it would make sense to make them all a little different sounding.

Even if there was only a "couple" songs per instrument type, I would be happy.

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Originally Posted by goonMagi

I really just cant get over it, that they're slamming a hard support class into a DD class and just washing out my favorite job. Hopefully my reaction to that "bow-harp" is way over the top, and SE finds a clever way to make a barcher actually really hard-core support. But something tells me... You can't just pooh on the archer like that. You are going to lose one of the roles, or have a generic and better-than-everyone class that fills too many roles.

but yea.. sweet tunes man. lets hope.

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^^ dont lose hope yet man, im sure another archer based job is due in the future, especially with bard's rather mixed reception.

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Originally Posted by weeble

is there a link to the new bard job? not heard nothing about it. but i do agree diff music for each is cool, though i play my mmo's 90% of the time muted so i personally don't care. i still think it would make sense to make them all a little different sounding.

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Only a tad bit of info confirmed on bard. Then famitsu's magazine cover came out this morning and confirmed our suspicions of some of these jobs. Only one I wouldn't peg is MRD's job. (I just have a hard time believing thats a warrior) anyways the image is in another thread and on facebook (thats where i saw it this morning) but im sure its been leaked all over the net by now.

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Originally Posted by weeble

is there a link to the new bard job? not heard nothing about it. but i do agree diff music for each is cool, though i play my mmo's 90% of the time muted so i personally don't care. i still think it would make sense to make them all a little different sounding.

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You have your choice, if you gonna continue to be one of the best Dps class that can attack at distant. Stay Archer. If your party need support, go Bard.

SE says it is possible to swap role easy.

I kinda hope it pans out badly so people see the error of their ways. Yes, it's petty.

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Originally Posted by Seikninkuru

I kinda hope it pans out badly so people see the error of their ways. Yes, it's petty.

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oh how john galt of you

I like archer, and I like bard. Sure, do it SE. Make it interesting.

I think it gives them an opportunity to make a really interesting and polished class. I just hope they don't screw it up.

At least we've got a few months to rank up a real DD to 50. The people who do want to play BRD had better get spamming arrows for now. I don't know why SE is going out of their way to destroy a class. First the lack of auto attack, now this.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

At least we've got a few months to rank up a real DD to 50. The people who do want to play BRD had better get spamming arrows for now. I don't know why SE is going out of their way to destroy a class. First the lack of auto attack, now this.

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Archer isn't going to be nerfed.

But the role of primary ranged DD is going to go, and there are more than enough gameplay-related justifications for this.

As far as music goes, they've been doing quite a few remixes as of late (like the battle music in the raids changing, and one of the beastmen fort themes). I could see them remixing the songs too.

There is already Bard music in the game, as a Bard NPC plays it. In LL on the Marauder's ship (cabin area). She plays the first few notes of the theme song, so I would honestly expect that to be the melody that plays as well. >.<; (Although I really hope there are multiple melodies)

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Archer isn't going to be nerfed.

But the role of primary ranged DD is going to go, and there are more than enough gameplay-related justifications for this.

As far as music goes, they've been doing quite a few remixes as of late (like the battle music in the raids changing, and one of the beastmen fort themes). I could see them remixing the songs too.

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Where did I say they are nerfing it? They are turning it into a support job as you say, and this is the issue.

It would be awesome if you could compose in game some short music tunes and attach them to every bard song-ability :)

I don't know if there's any truth to Archer having the Bard job, but...

Anyone else notice there's a rather small amount of classes? It seems pretty obvious to me there'll be more than one job for each class. Honestly...it's not going to ruin anything...they're like specializations. So an Archer could have either Ranger or Bard I guess. Same thing with Pugilist having Monk OR Thief. It fits.

The way I see it, if they made Archer into Ranger, what would be the point of having Musketeer and whatever it's advanced job would be down the road?

There would be two ranged DD classes unless they turned Muskteer into a support class, which just doesn't seem likely. Guns = hurt. (And Corsair wouldn't really make sense as the advanced job, since Musketeers are opposed to pirates.)

They're just turning it into a needed support class, and leaving the ranged DD slot open for Musketeer in the future so they don't have two classes that are basically the same with different weapons.

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Originally Posted by goonMagi

I really just cant get over it, that they're slamming a hard support class into a DD class and just washing out my favorite job. Hopefully my reaction to that "bow-harp" is way over the top, and SE finds a clever way to make a barcher actually really hard-core support. But something tells me... You can't just pooh on the archer like that. You are going to lose one of the roles, or have a generic and better-than-everyone class that fills too many roles.

but yea.. sweet tunes man. lets hope.

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I wouldn't worry about it, this is only the first wave of jobs, I expect Ranger will show up in future.

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Originally Posted by Endemerrin

There would be two ranged DD classes unless they turned Muskteer into a support class, which just doesn't seem likely. Guns = hurt. (And Corsair wouldn't really make sense as the advanced job, since Musketeers are opposed to pirates.)

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There are various ways they can do it, elemental bullets / enfeebles etc. Musketeer for example could get Sniper as an advanced class (I think that was a FFT class?) that deals out cripples to different areas of the body etc.

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Originally Posted by Xenor

Where did I say they are nerfing it? They are turning it into a support job as you say, and this is the issue.

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They aren't "turning it into" anything, archers can simply unlock Bard. They don't have to play as them. They can still be purely ranged DD.

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Originally Posted by Meimei

I don't know if there's any truth to Archer having the Bard job, but...

Anyone else notice there's a rather small amount of classes? It seems pretty obvious to me there'll be more than one job for each class.

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More classes are coming after the job system implementation. Don't fear that there would be not enough classes for all jobs.