Anyone notice that the reflections in the DX11 client are not only blocky but also seem to animate at a much lower frame rate than the things being reflected? Try watching the reflection of the aetheryte in Idyllshire in the circle around it on the floor (easiest place to get to to see what I mean).
Could we get an option/slider to set the reflection quality - presuming it was implemented using a shader that allows for quality control.
DX11 Reflections - Quality
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06-25-2015, 07:15 PMWadeDX11 Reflections - Quality
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06-25-2015, 07:27 PMSartori
Not at all, the reflections are beautiful on the floors, especially the wood ones, well any floor for that matter that reflects.
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06-25-2015, 07:36 PMWade
Can you take a screenshot please, because I see blocky like this.
http://i.imgur.com/htrL45s.png
See the block edges? That's not of animations but I'll try and make a video of it. -
06-26-2015, 04:02 AMWade
This shows it a lot clearer
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06-26-2015, 06:03 AMFaileExperiment
Yeah, a lot of the dx11 effects look half assed. Even the water tessellation, which I was really looking forward to, hardly makes a difference. The tessellation in general is pretty weak.
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06-26-2015, 06:20 AMColorful
Could be due to high quality real time reflections potentially decreasing your frame rate by 30-40%, don't see why they don't have the option though.
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06-26-2015, 10:35 AMGralna
inb4 DX11 holding game back :P
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06-26-2015, 11:51 AMZyrusticae
Screen-space reflections are typically rendered at 50% or 25% resolution for obvious performance reasons. Looks like they opted for 25%.
You can mitigate this by downsampling from a higher resolution, though obviously that will hit your framerate that much harder. I personally play at 3.3k horizontal resolution (can't be arsed to look up the exact numbers right now) at a near-solid 60 FPS, but then, I'm running two GTX 970s, so YMMV. -
06-26-2015, 11:52 AMIllyaDo you use a telescope to read the game's UI at that scale?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyrusticae
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06-26-2015, 11:55 AMSuzakuCMXHigher resolution makes the text much easier to read when it's smaller as well. They could also have a 40" monitor :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Illya
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06-26-2015, 12:29 PMOoshimaMore like consoles holding game back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gralna
Even with DX11 the game still looks like a console port to PC to me. Graphically certain parts it looks something towards Tome Raider rather than the more gorgeous Witcher 3.
But again IDK. Might have been multi cross platform too. I've played the FF15 demo and I feel that the graphics were better than Heavensward. -
06-26-2015, 04:39 PMMwynn
Move around / move the Camera and the Reflection of Animated Objects on the Ground is smooth. If you do not move the Camera or stand still, the Frames are low.
I noticed it in the last huge Zone with all those spinning huge Objects and you can clearly try it out there. -
06-26-2015, 04:44 PMWade
I know reflections can reduce FPS but not by 25/25%. It can increase the number of things to draw by 100% for sure if it's done as a true reflection, but even then the performance hit on a modern card with FFXIV's graphics would not struggle - just look at games like Crysis with reflections and we can run that at 60FPS+ on modern hardware.
Also, years and years ago I used to mod for Star Trek: Elite Force and also Jedi Academy which both could do true reflections (including characters and their weapon effects) - and that was back in the 280 days!
http://i.imgur.com/an05rTT.jpg
Basically: give us an option to chose the performance hit ourselves because those reflections are ugly! -
06-26-2015, 04:51 PMSartoriYou got to be kidding me, am I playing a different version or something? There's something wrong on your end, has to beQuote:
Originally Posted by Ooshima
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06-26-2015, 04:51 PMSartoriI'm not seeing anything like that, at allQuote:
Originally Posted by Wade
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06-26-2015, 05:01 PMOoshimaYou need to play some graphical games and open up your horizon, not me lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sartori
Have you tried other game's benchmarks at the very least? Graphically speaking Heavensward is nowhere top tier. -
06-26-2015, 05:59 PMMilmoko_GemokoDifferent engines (and a 10 year Dev cycle haha) between XIV and XV, also XIV is now 2 years old compared to Witcher 3 thats like a few months old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ooshima
Also console (PS3) is probably using OpenGL or something like that not DirectX, dont know about PS4 but I'd assume its the same unless they got DX to run on it. -
06-26-2015, 06:05 PMSartoriMy graphical Horizon's have been open for years, I don't man I don't get it how you guys can complain about the graphics in this game....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ooshima
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06-26-2015, 06:19 PMMilmoko_GemokoExactly I'm on PS3 and it even looks pretty damn impressive on that especially The Shroud/Dravianian Chocobo Forest (the SSD helps alot though, 4x better load times, quicker character/asset loads in open-world and draw distancing seems better to).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sartori
I've seen the Dx9 build on friends PC's and it looks even better as I'd expect, yet to test DX11 myself though. -
06-26-2015, 07:59 PMMunba
About his image:
http://techraptor.net/wp-content/upl...ison-FFXIV.jpg
But this is not still implemented? Because i don't see it..
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06-26-2015, 08:01 PMWade
It is there, but not as extreme as it was in that screenshot.
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06-26-2015, 08:04 PMMunba
Oh.. didn't notice it ._.
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06-26-2015, 08:22 PMSakuraMidori
Least pc users got the update :P we on the ps4 got no love at all
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06-26-2015, 11:43 PMDestinovaIt is, have you seen dx12 it rocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gralna
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06-27-2015, 12:29 AMVeloxNot to mention that dx12 was designed to further distribute the workload across the whole video card, freeing up CPU resources, thus lowering the minimum CPU requirement for games to achieve the same or better quality as dx11.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destinova
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06-27-2015, 12:38 AMOnikimaru4.0 baby :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Velox
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06-27-2015, 01:31 AMNaraku_DiabolosI noticed this too via making a new character and the water didn't look any different in the opening cutscene that this screenshot was taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munba