allow us to glamour 1 handed weapons onto 2 handed ones!

i don't understand why they would introduce weapons like the inferno cudgel or malevolent moogle mog wand if you cannot glamour them onto 2 handed weapons, the i95 crafted primal weapons that clearly are meant to be glamour weapons. but you cannot glamour them to anything because the vast majority of black mage and white mage weapons are 2 handed.

please do something like what was done with hooded robes, where you can glamour them to look like things that didn't have hoods but you wouldn't be able to wear a helmet. these weapons look really nice and it is a shame you cannot glamour them to anything at all.

Yes please! I've been dying to glamour the Leviathan wand and shield, but it doesn't look like I'll ever have the opportunity unless they change how glamours work.

If Monks (might) get an item that lets them glamour bare-fists, then White and Black Mages should get one that lets us glamour a one-handed weapon and shield over a two-handed staff..only fair!

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Originally Posted by o3o

clearly they are meant to be glamour weapons.

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They were the best weapons out there once upon a time.

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Originally Posted by o3o

please do something like what was done with hooded robes, where you can glamour them but you wouldn't be able to glamour a helmet.

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I did not know this was possible. Time to turn my BLM into Altair with the i70 robe.

Agreed. I remember the feeling of disapointment when I realized that Vanille's cane from Lightning's event is one-handed, despite being (mostly) two-handed in FFXIII. I love that cane :(

Alternatively, convert the current one-handed staffs/whatevers into two-handed ones. There ain't really that much beyond lv50, so it should not be that much of a workload - probably not as much as solving the whole one-handed-glamour-to-two-handed thing is, judging by how it's been looked over for so long...

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Alternatively, convert the current one-handed staffs/whatevers into two-handed ones. There ain't really that much beyond lv50, so it should not be that much of a workload - probably not as much as solving the whole one-handed-glamour-to-two-handed thing is, judging by how it's been looked over for so long...

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Another alternative, put in every patch a set of 2 hand weapons and a set of 1 hand weapons + shields for DoM with the same ilevel (also 2 types of relic).

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Originally Posted by o3o

i don't understand why they would introduce weapons like the inferno cudgel or malevolent moogle wand if you cannot glamour them onto 2 handed weapons. clearly they are meant to be glamour weapons.

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Not at the beginning. The time made them glamour weapons.
Ifrit weapons were the best weapons during 1.19. Then got replaced by the Moogle weapons during 1.20. And Moogle weapons got replaced by the Garuda weapons during 1.22

Unfortunately as others have implied, these weapons are a relic from a time before...relics. They existed before the glamour system existed.
Moreover, it would look rather awkward since the one handed weapons were designed with one-handed animations in mind.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

Unfortunately as others have implied, these weapons are a relic from a time before...relics. They existed before the glamour system existed.
Moreover, it would look rather awkward since the one handed weapons were designed with one-handed animations in mind.

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Does not stop the idle /changepose being the same... How are the animations actually different between canes/wands or staves/cudgels?

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Originally Posted by Canadane

They were the best weapons out there once upon a time.

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i95 crafted primal weapons were never the best weapons. Nor were Levi weps.

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Originally Posted by KarmaCha

i95 crafted primal weapons were never the best weapons. Nor were Levi weps.

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I think she meant that when those weapons were actually relevant, they were actually BIS or great placeholder weapons until you could actually get a better weapon.

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Originally Posted by KarmaCha

i95 crafted primal weapons were never the best weapons. Nor were Levi weps.

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Basically this. Those weps were never viable at all when a Levi wep was 2-5 mil cheaper and 115 weps were floating around for those that cleared t9. Even relics wereally better when they were intoduced.

Uber bump of ultimate glamour justice!

I really want to glamour that inferno cudgel. It's so firey and glowy Q-Q

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Originally Posted by o3o

Basically this. Those weps were never viable at all when a Levi wep was 2-5 mil cheaper and 115 weps were floating around for those that cleared t9. Even relics wereally better when they were intoduced.

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During the time Ifrit weapons and Moogle weapons came ingame in 1.x there were no Levi weapons, no Relic weapons, no Coil weapon, no Titan weapons and not even Garuda weapons

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Originally Posted by Felis

During the time Ifrit weapons and Moogle weapons came ingame in 1.x there were no Levi weapons, no Relic weapons, no Coil weapon, no Titan weapons and not even Garuda weapons

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They're meaning the i95, glowing versions of the weapons that are crafted, not the ones that drop from the trials. These were much lower ilevel than what was available at the time of their release, and were made with glamour in mind.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

I did not know this was possible. Time to turn my BLM into Altair with the i70 robe.

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It was a little confusing, the way o3o phrased it, but you got it wrong ^^ What she meant (and what works) is that you can glamour normal robes onto cowls, and you'll appear bareheaded. But you can't glamour a helmet onto a cowl, because the "main" part of the equipment is the chestpiece.

Which is why it in theory would work glamouring a one-handed weapon over a two-handed one (only applicable to WHM/BLM) -- a staff occupies the shield/off-hand slot as well, so if you glamour a one-handed wand/scepter over it, you wouldn't be able to equip a shield. But you wouldn't be able to glamour a two-handed staff/rod over a one-handed weapon because it'd mess up the shield/off-hand slot.

Just to clear things up, im talking about the i95 crafted primal weps.

Edited the first post to avoid even more confusion.

For the Love of Moogles please allow this!

Would be nice if they allowed. I kinda miss using a shield as a WHM/BLM

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Originally Posted by myahele

Would be nice if they allowed. I kinda miss using a shield as a WHM/BLM

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This would not allow the use of a shield, just the ability to glamour one handed weapons. The second slot would remain unglamorable.

The i95 Moogle wand is the best looking WHM weapon in the game. Sadly it's totally worthless at this point. I would've liked them to have done this a year ago but with the expansion dropping in a week, they have no reason to.

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Originally Posted by Terrini

Does not stop the idle /changepose being the same... How are the animations actually different between canes/wands or staves/cudgels?

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They aren't different. Your character does all their casts in the same manner whether they have a one handed weapon or 2-handed weapon. SE would have had to spend more time on animations just for those 2 classes so they just designed casting to accommodate both weapons types.

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Does not stop the idle /changepose being the same... How are the animations actually different between canes/wands or staves/cudgels?

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huh, this is true for the casting weapons indeed...my bad. The fact that every single other 1h+offhand thingy in the game uses the GLD/PLD animations threw me off til i tested it in game
I'd imagine this is because of how the glamour system works. The glamour system is basically an overlay of the regular gear system. They'll let us glamour 1 handed weapons (which only TWO classes in the entire game have this as an issue for, and even then it's only older equipment that's either pre-50 or grandfathered from 1.0, or both) at the same time they let us glamour multi slot items over single slot items and items locked to specific classes onto classes that can't wear it. They'd have to make changes to the glamour system's core features to allow this, and all of those things. Which means a lot of work for what amounts to maybe half a dozen items that people would ACTUALLY want to glamour.
It sucks, but that's just the way it's going to be, especially since they've obviously abandoned 1h weapons for CNJ and THM now.

I think they're probably going to phase out the one-hand/shield of those two Jobs eventually, so I doubt they would make the effort.

Maybe they should, at least, provide 2-hand versions of those weapons though.

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Originally Posted by Allyrion

I think they're probably going to phase out the one-hand/shield of those two Jobs eventually, so I doubt they would make the effort.

Maybe they should, at least, provide 2-hand versions of those weapons though.

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they are basically already phased out, they have not introduced a new 1 handed caster wep since levi. but it doesn't seem all that difficult to make it so you can glamour them on to a 2 handed one X_X i like how small they are compared to the full size staffs.

I've always preferred the option of a one-handed BLM weapon and shield for PVP use and a two-handed BLM weapon for PVE use.

I support glamouring 1 handed weapons on to 2 handed, I made my character look like y'shtola recently but I can't glamour the look onto my whm cause a. The highest level wand is i100! b. Y'shtola doesn't use a shield so even if there was a high level wand I'd still be using a wand and no shield. So I'd still be gimped. If I could glamour a wand on to a cane it would fix both issues.

I support this =c It's really sad when someone puts so much time and effort into making a model and the textures for it, only to have the very people you make it for not use it AT ALL because it's not "viable" and you can't put the item onto the viable piece of gear.

Yes please! As someone who mains whm would love to use some of those weapons I've got lying around for glamour.

Yeah at least they should let us glamour those one-handed weapon for WHM/BLM. It's kinda pointless for crafter's view to make one-handed primal weapon if it cannot be used for vanity.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

The glamour system is basically an overlay of the regular gear system. They'll let us glamour 1 handed weapons (which only TWO classes in the entire game have this as an issue for, and even then it's only older equipment that's either pre-50 or grandfathered from 1.0, or both) at the same time they let us glamour multi slot items over single slot items and items locked to specific classes onto classes that can't wear it.

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Doesn't explain how you can glamour one-slot gear (chest/legs) onto multiple-slot gear (cowls, tincans etc). The weapons would just utilize the same mechanic.

And I'd hardly say the i95 weapons are pre-50... and while they're based on earlier weapons, the Levi wand and the Moogle wand are surely not grandfathered from 1.x -- Levi and Moggle Mog weren't available to fight back then, were they? *never played 1.x, so doesn't know*

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Originally Posted by Kikosho

Moggle Mog was the second primal fight released during the 1.0 series. The fight was absent at launch because SE had to give us a lore reason to fight him again which didn't happen until 2.1.

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Right ^^
What about Levi? =D

Moggle Mog was the second primal fight released during the 1.0 series. The fight was absent at launch because SE had to give us a lore reason to fight him again which didn't happen until 2.1.

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Originally Posted by o3o

they are basically already phased out, they have not introduced a new 1 handed caster wep since levi. but it doesn't seem all that difficult to make it so you can glamour them on to a 2 handed one X_X i like how small they are compared to the full size staffs.

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It'll probably get the PLD/GLA treatment in regards to daggers.
Like the daggers went to ROG/NIN, they'll probably leave it to some other class.

I don't think it'll be bad option to glamor, but weapon types are the Job signature more than anything else.
If their image of WHM and BLM is with a big 2H staff, it's possible they want to do a glamor option just to replace it later.

The way the game is, I think Jobs/Classes with 2 weapon types are just holdovers till another class can take it from them.
Just because the weapon defines the class.
It doesn't really bother me either way, and I think it'll be fine for players to glamor them even if they move them to another class later.

i just hope this gets enough attention so that they look at it, it seems like something that should have been fixed when they introduced glamour in the first place.

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Originally Posted by o3o

i just hope this gets enough attention so that they look at it, it seems like something that should have been fixed when they introduced glamour in the first place.

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I'm sure there is some technical reason why this hasn't been done yet, but that being said with all of the quality of life stuff we'll surely be getting in coming patches a lot of us would be over joyed if the devs could find a work around for this. There are so many cool 1 handed wand models that we just never get to see.

bump goes the dynamite!

im not giving up on this so easily.

what is even the point of making 1hand weapons if there isn't even a shield of the same type? @_@
I mean, Ifrit/Titan BLM weapons, Garuda's WHM...

WHY SE, WHY.
why I had to fight as a BLM with Ifrit's poop before the relic? whyyyy ;___;

Common someone look at this D:

I want to glamour the Ifrit BLM wep Q-Q

I would love this, and to get more 1h weapons eventually ; ; It'd be great if you could have alternate weapons with more classes, though I know it probably won't ever happen again. It's just nice to have options!

JUSTICE BUMP