Onion Knight And The Allagan Empire?

I was looking at the discription of the Onion Doublet today and noticed that it said that the doublet was made to look like the doublet worn by the Onion Knights of the fallen Allagan Empire. I was thinking that it would be awsome if they added Onion Knight as a class/job later and to unlock it you had to use the power of the echo to go back in time to when the Allagan Empire was still around and learn from watching the Onion Knights in action. What do you guys think?

I also wonder since it probably one the nations that were defeated by the Garlean's that in the future we might liberate the Allagan Empire's people and the Onion Knights will be able to rebuild themselves after said event. Sadly we will have to wait and see what they do for future content's such as this >.<!

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Originally Posted by Natabant

I was looking at the discription of the Onion Doublet today and noticed that it said that the doublet was made to look like the doublet worn by the Onion Knights of the fallen Allagan Empire. I was thinking that it would be awsome if they added Onion Knight as a class/job later and to unlock it you had to use the power of the echo to go back in time to when the Allagan Empire was still around and learn from watching the Onion Knights in action. What do you guys think?

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Aren't the onion knights those weird little black guys that wonder around with giant bulb shaped helmets on?

Interesting idea though. There is time-travel already so it's not like it wouldn't fit into the lore.

Allagan never met with Garlemand, they exist approximately 1,000 years apart. Allagan was destroyed during the 6th Umbral, so that should be linked with 12 Archons or Primal.

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

Allagan never met with Garlemand, they exist approximately 1,000 years apart. Allagan was destroyed during the 6th Umbral, so that should be linked with 12 Archons or Primal.

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Geez this game has so much hidden lore lol, there is so much in this game that I dont really know and its fun to learn new stuff. @Konachibi: Ya the Onion Knights are the ones with the goofy looking helmets :P

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Originally Posted by Natabant

Geez this game has so much hidden lore lol, there is so much in this game that I dont really know and its fun to learn new stuff. @Konachibi: Ya the Onion Knights are the ones with the goofy looking helmets :P

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Oooo, I wondered about those. I kept expecting one of them to come leaping out in a black mage outfit during the Ul'dah opening cut-scene, since they have the same round glowing eyes.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Oooo, I wondered about those. I kept expecting one of them to come leaping out in a black mage outfit during the Ul'dah opening cut-scene, since they have the same round glowing eyes.

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Oh wait.. were you talking about these? http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000...cs1w1_290x.jpg cause those are called Mammets I think.. Onion Knights are just normal people that wear these --> http://www.ffxivarmoury.com/images/6...onion-helm.png

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Originally Posted by Natabant

Oh wait.. were you talking about these? http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000...cs1w1_290x.jpg cause those are called Mammots I think.. Onion Knights are just normal people that wear these --> http://www.ffxivarmoury.com/images/6...onion-helm.png

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Yeah I meant the mammots.
Seriously where do those guys fit into the game?

from my perspective... sadly it's just a call back to the puppet/mammet's that puppetmaster class used in XI >.<, but they probably have a deeper reason I just haven't found it yet.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Yeah I meant the mammots.
Seriously where do those guys fit into the game?

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Well in FFXI they were used for the Puppetmaster job, they fought alongside the Puppetmaster, but I have no idea what they do in FFXIV lol.

They never seem to do anything :3

First time I noticed one was in the Goldsmiths guild. I was staring at it for ages thinking it was some kind of weird plant in an odd-shaped plantpot, then when I spun the camera to face infront of it I realised it had eyes.

Perhaps a sign that the puppet-master class is going to make a come-back, or maybe an attempt by S.E to gain a third mascot to go with moogles and chocobos?

Only time will tell...

*cue spooky music whilst kona slowly fades into the fog*

*magically re-appears*

HA! The uses for anima!

I've seen people wearing Onion Knight things though, they decrease the death debuff timer don't they?

Don't have any of the stuff myself, but don't intend to go dieing any time soon either XD

So I'm guessinf the fall of their empire would be from the flood of the 6th umbral era?

The mammet in the Phrontistery makes me uncomfortable ahahaha. They seem to be nothing more than helping hands, in servitude so to speak.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

They never seem to do anything :3

First time I noticed one was in the Goldsmiths guild. I was staring at it for ages thinking it was some kind of weird plant in an odd-shaped plantpot, then when I spun the camera to face infront of it I realised it had eyes.

Perhaps a sign that the puppet-master class is going to make a come-back, or maybe an attempt by S.E to gain a third mascot to go with moogles and chocobos?

Only time will tell...

*cue spooky music whilst kona slowly fades into the fog*

*magically re-appears*

HA! The uses for anima!

I've seen people wearing Onion Knight things though, they decrease the death debuff timer don't they?

Don't have any of the stuff myself, but don't intend to go dieing any time soon either XD

So I'm guessinf the fall of their empire would be from the flood of the 6th umbral era?

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Onion Helms decrease the death debuff timer, though you need to be wearing it before you die for it to get any affect (in other words it's useless for the most part)
Also, it was the bonus item for getting the Collector's Edition, which personally I would have much preferred the Garland Goggles >_>

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Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly

Phrontistery

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In the what? o.o'

Even looking at the word whilst typing I can't spell it. Can't even begin to imagine how to pronounce it.

Think I'll keep an eye on the little blighters to see where they're going.

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Originally Posted by Falcus

Onion Helms decrease the death debuff timer, though you need to be wearing it before you die for it to get any affect (in other words it's useless for the most part)
Also, it was the bonus item for getting the Collector's Edition, which personally I would have much preferred the Garland Goggles >_>

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Ah. Some Onion Knight stuff can be obtained from the faction leves though can't they? Think I read that somewhere anyways. Those probably don't give the reduced death debuff timer though. But I guess if you include the hat you could dress from head to toe as an Onion Knight to get the idea of what they looked like pre-flood.

Though travelling back in time to gain the class/job the OP mentioned would probably be easier.

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

In the what? o.o'

Even looking at the word whilst typing I can't spell it. Can't even begin to imagine how to pronounce it.

Think I'll keep an eye on the little blighters to see where they're going.

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I think thats the Alchemist Guild but I could be wrong lol.

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Originally Posted by Natabant

I think thats the Alchemist Guild but I could be wrong lol.

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Ooooh.

That'd make sense, they have those other things too, alembics. That word never made much sense to me either.

Why not just call them potion pots and heating jars? Honestly!

Just asked in the lore thread for more info on onion knights, allagan empire and mammots though. hopefully more light can be shed on their what's and why's.

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

Allagan never met with Garlemand, they exist approximately 1,000 years apart. Allagan was destroyed during the 6th Umbral, so that should be linked with 12 Archons or Primal.

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Yeah, the Allagan Empire existed 1000 Years ago and was destroyed during the 6th Umbral Era. Whilst the Garlean Empire was just a remote and sparsely populated nation who held little than a fraction of the Northlands just 50 years ago, until the emergence of a young Brilliant Legatus and the Technological Golden Age.

Heres some pics of me in my decked out Onion gear

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/...nionKnight.png

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/...nightFront.png

http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/...KnightBack.png

I got the helm from buying the CE and the rest I obtained through faction leves, although I'm not sure you can still get these items from faction rewards, but I think you can still obtain through other methods, not really sure

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Yeah I meant the mammots.
Seriously where do those guys fit into the game?

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There is some lore on the official website in the bestiary section.

They are essentially artificial life made by a genius in Ul'dah.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

There is some lore on the official website in the bestiary section.

They are essentially artificial life made by a genius in Ul'dah.

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Ah right, ty for the info. They make a little bit more sense now. :)

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Originally Posted by Catapult

There is some lore on the official website in the bestiary section.

They are essentially artificial life made by a genius in Ul'dah.

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And that genius was me.

Sorry had to come in with that :)

konachibi you should be able to get onion gear from the lowest tier faction leves.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

konachibi you should be able to get onion gear from the lowest tier faction leves.

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Indeed I read about these. It's in my 'things to do' list somewhere between "Do toto-rak" and "Stop spending all day on the forum".

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Indeed I read about these. It's in my 'things to do' list somewhere between "Do toto-rak" and "Stop spending all day on the forum".

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LOL, You need to get to 25 to so you can do toto-rak.

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Originally Posted by Coombah

LOL, You need to get to 25 to so you can do toto-rak.

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Yeah I know, my conjury is like, rank 24 1/2, so a couple of leves and I'm there.

Just could never be bothered to switch my 'main class' bit from archer.

Even my leatherworking is a higher rank than my archery.

The Onion Knight class (or Job) would be the Maat's Cap of FFXIV.

It should work exactly like it does in FFT:WotL.

For those who don't know, in FFT, you need to master every other job to unlock it. The job itself is extremely weak and practically useless until you hit lvl 99, after which it becomes the most powerful job in the game and can use all gear/spells/etc..

IIRC, you could only wear the onion gear until you hit 99 as well..

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

The Onion Knight class (or Job) would be the Maat's Cap of FFXIV.

It should work exactly like it does in FFT:WotL.

For those who don't know, in FFT, you need to master every other job to unlock it. The job itself is extremely weak and practically useless until you hit lvl 99, after which it becomes the most powerful job in the game and can use all gear/spells/etc..

IIRC, you could only wear the onion gear until you hit 99 as well..

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No, the Onion Knight job is unlocked by having 6 Chemist and 6 Squire, it's job level is based on how many jobs you have mastered, at max job level, it has insane stats and the ability to wear any equipment, although it has no command of it's own (Although I enjoy using the samurai command on one....or dark knight)