Made my SCH dream come true.

I just want to thank SE for making SCH game play more versatile and higher skill capped. SCH is really the sole reason I still play this game, and they just made it even more amazing and complex. Prolly going end up using all 12 buttons on my naga :p
I really can't wait for 3.0

On the side note, really want to try out the Dark Knight.

The new spells for SCH seem very boring to me. Sorry.

Not much more boring than point blank aoe healing and falling asleep on your keyboard.

If anyone is falling asleep on their keyboard while healing, they aren't very good healers.

Well, killing the fairy sounds fun, imo...

I did like Ocarina of Time :v

poor fairy

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

The new spells for SCH seem very boring to me. Sorry.

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Pretty much that. The only noteworthy ability that caught my attention was the SCH version of Bane for buffs. The convert shields to hp seems useless, can't see where it would be useful when chances are when you would do so the other healer would probably have their heal incoming. If the tank is in real need of hp it's just better to leave that shield up and use a different heal like physik if something stronger is needed then use...oh wait, we didn't get a heal for that gap.

I have spent a lot of my time since 2.0 shouting at my fairy to go die in a corner during a raid, and, surprise surprise, it turns out i was actually just pre-empting how i will play sch in 3.0 :).

But In all seriousness, i will actually have to see how the new moves fit into a raid etc before making a judgement on how they are going to play now.

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Originally Posted by Velox

If anyone is falling asleep on their keyboard while healing, they aren't very good healers.

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This is why I made a better SCH than WHM. WHM puts me to sleep. It did in FFXI and you have no ideal how much caffeine I had to consume to make through the countless hours in my endgame/farm LS.

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Originally Posted by Blessedbythesun

This is why I made a better SCH than WHM. WHM puts me to sleep. It did in FFXI and you have no ideal how much caffeine I had to consume to make through the countless hours in my endgame/farm LS.

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This is the reason I cannot play my WHM anymore, its disgustingly boring.

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Originally Posted by Arkenne

Well, killing the fairy sounds fun, imo...

I did like Ocarina of Time :v

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I think sacrificing the fairy for 'magic power' wasn't the best move from SE. If you sacrificed the fairy for a big shield, a big Aoe regen, a mass Leech raid-wide or an instant Ressurrection would all be better moves.
When I go Cleric to DPS, I rely on the fairy to keep the tank alive while I do damage. I wouldn't sacrifice the fairy for a few seconds of dps and have to come back quickly to heal the party. Lustrate helps, but i don't like to spend aetherflow mindlessly.

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Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade

I think sacrificing the fairy for 'magic power' wasn't the best move from SE. If you sacrificed the fairy for a big shield, a big Aoe regen, a mass Leech raid-wide or an instant Ressurrection would all be better moves.
When I go Cleric to DPS, I rely on the fairy to keep the tank alive while I do damage. I wouldn't sacrifice the fairy for a few seconds of dps and have to come back quickly to heal the party. Lustrate helps, but i don't like to spend aetherflow mindlessly.

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that's why they said that SCH will need to be super careful when they use some of their new skills and that they are more raid-oriented
they will be double edge swords but could be a huge DPS boost
ask WHM to go healing mode, sacrifice fairy, go in cleric and if this impacts other caster, go full DPS with BLM and SMN
could help meetings DPS checks in upcoming raids

No points to use it in dungeon I think unless one the boss last few % if you decide to burn

but wait and see

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Originally Posted by Yona87

This is the reason I cannot play my WHM anymore, its disgustingly boring.

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Man, you really hate WHM don't you?

Almost makes anything you post pointless because you are so incredibly biased.

The sacrifice of the fairy is something we discussed on another thread, we where saying that the third fairy should be fenix or something like it and regain full health to a player or rez him by sacrificing her self, well, we will see how this works

I used to be a main sch only but now i play both whm and sch in endgame static and for progression this coming patch i'm actually switching whm/ast main, while a friend of mine will be our sch. On the comment of whm being boring I have to disagree. If you have a sch who trying to optimize their dps, which forces you to optimize you're healing ( especially if you are also dpsing on whm), then there are some very intense moments on whm in the endgame fights XD. So if you are bored on whm, I suggest trying to find places in fights where you can dps and optizime your dps while not hindering the sch's. Although I will agree that now echo makes all the fights kind of boring, damn echo buff. Also their are alot of interesting changes coming to whm. More nukes, heal pulses, that AoE regen? bubble, mini benediction, and who knows what traits. Needless to say, I'm excited for healing. Did you see yoshi's blm's hp? that is alot of damage and healing that will be going out XD!


On the topic of new sch abilities: I too was slightly disappointed in the new sch abilities, however they aren't useless as others are claiming. For instance, if your whm happens to die, you now as a sch have emergency burst healing tools without having to use eos. Especially if you can turn adlo into a big cure and then AoE that big cure with the other ability. Almost like Rapture + Accession from ffxi sch. If this is possible it will also make double sch less of an annoyance.

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Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade

*Fairy for Fairy powder*

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Well... effects aside, I truly just like the idea of killing the fairy :|

Besides, they did use the wording "Magical Power" in the live letter, but its too soon to discard the possibility that it'll be a boost to your healing abilities.

Also Swiftcasting the fairy again should be possible... maybe it will have some convenience to drop one and summon another? or just resummon the previous one... who knows =-=a

Imagine for Gigaflare if the scholar could "bane" their Adlo instead of succor...lot more mititagion...sounds pretty damn cool to me. The one where you lose the shield for more healing sound interesting but it depends on how it work...is it only one spell or a short duration...have to see. Sac Eos for Magic power, Swiftcast Selene and go dps ham....LOL.
The other Aoe heals is much needed as well...love that one!!

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Man, you really hate WHM don't you?

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It's not about hate, it's all about personal preferences. He finds sch more interesting, that's all.

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Originally Posted by Nigela

It's not about hate, it's all about personal preferences. He finds sch more interesting, that's all.

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It's fine and dandy that he prefers Scholar over WHM.

But is it required for him to repeatedly state WHMs are "disgustingly boring", "put me to sleep" etc etc like a broken record to tell us about his preference?

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

The new spells for SCH seem very boring to me. Sorry.

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I'm not surprised, you havn't had the chance to play a healer in FCoB yet to theorycraft effectively.

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Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros

The sacrifice of the fairy is something we discussed on another thread, we where saying that the third fairy should be fenix or something like it and regain full health to a player or rez him by sacrificing her self, well, we will see how this works

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Man I wish we could summon Phoenix, even for a short duration.

I made a thread questioning this supposed glamour system we will be getting. And I inquired, "what about Scholar". It would be cool if we could glamour the fairies too, maybe to Phoenix?

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Originally Posted by Teno

Man I wish we could summon Phoenix, even for a short duration.

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I wish the skills of the arcanist were more based on summons. The Eye for an Eye could have exactly the same effect, but should be called Golem. The Ressurrection spell could have the same effect and should be called Phoenix... It would be lore-explained and we could have good-looking animations... (Except if they make Phoenix the Limit Breaker for the SCH, wich would be much more awesome!)

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Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade

I wish the skills of the arcanist were more based on summons. The Eye for an Eye could have exactly the same effect, but should be called Golem. The Ressurrection spell could have the same effect and should be called Phoenix... It would be lore-explained and we could have good-looking animations... (Except if they make Phoenix the Limit Breaker for the SCH, wich would be much more awesome!)

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You are a scholar not summoner.

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Originally Posted by Knoahl

I'm not surprised, you havn't had the chance to play a healer in FCoB yet to theorycraft effectively.

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Oh ho. Here we go.

I didn't know I had to play FCoB to understand the game or get an impression of SCHs new abilities. FCoB isn't for everyone, and I take my time to enjoy the game. One doesn't need to run the top tier raid to have an opinion. Besides, I have my own reasons for not playing it. And if this, for some obnoxious and elitist-y reason, makes my opinion some how less valid then so be it. I honestly don't care.

Anyway I'm obviously not the only one who thinks they look boring.

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Originally Posted by Galdous

You are a scholar not summoner.

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Well, I didn't pay attention to the Arcanist/Scholar/Summoner storyline, since it was my first class and this is my first MMO. I thought I had to go through the missions as fast as possible, so i skipped it all #DumbMe. But once you are taught to summon Carbuncle to help you in the beginning of your quest, why couldn't you learn how to summon Golem and Phoenix? I think it's possible, since golem wasn't shown in this FF yet (and I don't know when Phoenix first appeared, but I guess it wasn't in 2.0).

The decision was in the hands of the Dev team. I'm saying that an arcanist already learns basic summon magic, why not give it some more? Won't hurt...

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Originally Posted by Teno

Man I wish we could summon Phoenix, even for a short duration.

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You can, its the Louisoix minion you get from final coils :)

Final coils of Bahamut bring up phoenix issues, but if Louisoix did truely grant of boon of power to his Grandchildren in his final seconds in eorzea, there may be potential for creepy twins to summon phoenix egi.

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I'm not surprised, you havn't had the chance to play a healer in FCoB yet to theorycraft effectively.

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I was unaware you needed to play a class at all in order to effectively theorycraft.

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Originally Posted by Menae

I was unaware you needed to play a class at all in order to effectively theorycraft.

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Devil's advocate coming in: I think the key word here is effectively. At least if you accept that the context provided by various encounters is important to theorycrafting, which I believe it is in this case.

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Originally Posted by Yona87

This is the reason I cannot play my WHM anymore, its disgustingly boring.

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Then you are not playing it right. It isn't boring when you make the most of your job ie: dealing damage when not healing, and using all of your abilities instead of throwing Medica II bombs all day.

Are there any new details about the new damage spell and the "Fairycution"?

Apparently the effect was too OP at the test but I'm still not sure what it really does - just a straight up MND boost like a potion? The effect better be worthy losing the fairy in tight situations...

Also, are Fairies getting a new pet action as well? In the job video, it looked like Selene was a sparlkier version of her usual haste.

Oddly enough, the thing that would make me the happiest is if somehow we could rework the Scholar traits to be separated from the Arcanist, and therefore, Summoner traits. It kills me having Enhanced Intelligence traits. Oh sure, twelve points of INT instead of MND isn't a big deal, but it would still be nice. But maybe I'm just anal about these things.

I found the new spells interesting to be honest and converting shields to heals is going to make SCH/SCH DF groups more palatable (and maybe some more applications there too). Bringing it back to the OPs comments, I think the intricacies of the class are fun and I think the new skill set has the potential to build on that. Some of the skills are subtle but could have a huge impact. I personally liked it better than what WHM got /shrug