Weaving animation inaccuracy that BUGS me

Background: IRL I sew and have engaged in, or at least tried out, many of the fiber / fabric arts. Including spinning.

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/galle...ning-wheel.jpg

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Ashford Traditional Spinning Wheel

A. Fly Wheel
B. Drive Band
C. Flyer
D. Flyer Whorl
E. Maidens
F. Mother-Of-All
G. Tension Knob
H. Bobbin
I. Treadle
J. Footman
K. Orifice

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The animation shows us fingering the drive belt. The wheel is hand cranked and stops every revolution.

IRL the left hand is 3" - 5" away from the orifice feeding fibers in. The wheel is run on a foot treadle and never stops.

I don't know how to link a video here so here is a link to a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Q4jKficJ4

The sewing animation is actually an embroidering animation but for me that's minor compared to the spinning wheel bit.

There's like 3 words said in a row there that aren't real words. Niddy Noddy? For real?

And all the other crafting animations are that much more life-like? lol

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Originally Posted by Shadygrove

Background: IRL I sew and have engaged in, or at least tried out, many of the fiber / fabric arts. Including spinning.

http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/galle...ning-wheel.jpg


The animation shows us fingering the drive belt. The wheel is hand cranked and stops every revolution.

IRL the left hand is 3" - 5" away from the orifice feeding fibers in. The wheel is run on a foot treadle and never stops.

I don't know how to link a video here so here is a link to a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Q4jKficJ4

The sewing animation is actually an embroidering animation but for me that's minor compared to the spinning wheel bit.

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Foot-treadle spinning wheels are only one kind. Almost all modern western spinning wheels are of this type, but hand-cranked wheels *do* exist, such as the Indian charkha, or the older "great wheel". When spinning with these types, it is not uncommon to have to use the left hand to control the tension on the fibers being spun. If I remember correctly, the crafting animation can show you turning the wheel multiple times depending on what action you're taking. I've been looking at pictures of charkhas, and while a lot of them have "wheels" that are spokes with no rim (with the fiber strung from spoke to spoke), some look a great deal like FFXIV spinning wheels, complete with a crank on the wheel.

you should try culinarian! you make cream by cutting milk with a knife !

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Originally Posted by Yoohre_WildRiver

you should try culinarian! you make cream by cutting milk with a knife !

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As a chef in a former life, I have yet to figure something out. How do I fit an entire kitchen in my back pocket? I mean that stove, its always hot and ready to go, is it insta-heat or is it always lit?

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

As a chef in a former life, I have yet to figure something out. How do I fit an entire kitchen in my back pocket? I mean that stove, its always hot and ready to go, is it insta-heat or is it always lit?

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Actually, I think heating the stove is what the shards are for.

If I could flatten steel with 10-20 strikes...

With an ice crystal.... what?

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Originally Posted by karateorangutang

If I could flatten steel with 10-20 strikes...

With and ice crystal.... what?

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Well, armorers are strange to begin with :-)

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Originally Posted by Yoohre_WildRiver

you should try culinarian! you make cream by cutting milk with a knife !

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Unless you don't have a knife equipped. Then you make cream by frying the milk in a pan.

Well *I* make airship components with that frying pan. It's OP, you know.

lol I'm a trained savile row tailor. If I can get along with the inaccuracies in game i'm sure you can.

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Originally Posted by Sanguisio

lol I'm a trained savile row tailor. If I can get along with the inaccuracies in game i'm sure you can.

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Ehhh tbh expertise has little to do with it.. That's like saying I can't complain about any sports matches because I myself couldn't perform better than the players..

Being bothered by little details is dictated more by personality traits than intimacy with the topic at hand..
OP has a first person privilege to his own feelings, it may not make sense to you, nor to any of us, but if OP is bothered by it, well then he's bothered by it. Warranted or not, feeling are feelings :P

I always love taste-testing when making dyes.

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Originally Posted by karateorangutang

If I could flatten steel with 10-20 strikes...

With an ice crystal.... what?

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In FFXI, the Ice element was associated with the aspect of Induration, a fancy word meaning "to harden". While FFXI DID typically still use Fire crystals in the forging of armors anyway, I believe that Ice was chosen for Armorer's element in FFXIV cuz they had to give Ice to SOMEONE, and it made sense that the "element of hardening" would be appropriate in the forging of armors (which, naturally, you want to be very hard).

When using Ice crystals to forge armors, think of it more like transfering the aspect of hardness from the ice crystals into the armor, rather than thinking of it as using the crystals' energy to soften and shape the armor pieces.

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Originally Posted by GenJoe

Ehhh tbh expertise has little to do with it.. That's like saying I can't complain about any sports matches because I myself couldn't perform better than the players..

Being bothered by little details is dictated more by personality traits than intimacy with the topic at hand..
OP has a first person privilege to his own feelings, it may not make sense to you, nor to any of us, but if OP is bothered by it, well then he's bothered by it. Warranted or not, feeling are feelings :P

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Why did the OP list their expertise if it isnt relevant then, just seems like a unnecessary aspect to pick up in the game. Any whatever if it is really that upsetting i'm sure the dev team could address.

Bnose

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Originally Posted by Sanguisio

Why did the OP list their expertise if it isnt relevant then, just seems like a unnecessary aspect to pick up in the game. Any whatever if it is really that upsetting i'm sure the dev team could address.

Bnose

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She didn't, she just said she's engaged in it previously to know that the animation looks wrong :)
Even if she went into the history of her weaving career, that's not a necessary point to making the argument one way or the other.

She could be a master 3d animator, a tailor, or even an 80 year old grandma from Europe who weaves all of her own clothes..
None of those are a pre-requisite to validating her ability to Hear, Feel, Think.


P.S. I hope my reason for posting isn't misunderstood, I'm not trying to be nit picky. It's just a pet peeve of mine when people tell others how they should "feel" :P Personal emotion is one of the very core of what is "Mine and mine only"

I am a chef, I cant level culinarian I did to 37 for the cross class. It made me want to scream.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

In FFXI, the Ice element was associated with the aspect of Induration, a fancy word meaning "to harden". While FFXI DID typically still use Fire crystals in the forging of armors anyway, I believe that Ice was chosen for Armorer's element in FFXIV cuz they had to give Ice to SOMEONE, and it made sense that the "element of hardening" would be appropriate in the forging of armors (which, naturally, you want to be very hard).

When using Ice crystals to forge armors, think of it more like transfering the aspect of hardness from the ice crystals into the armor, rather than thinking of it as using the crystals' energy to soften and shape the armor pieces.

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Yeah i get it... but at the end of the day fire heats things... so ice transfers hardness? Still makes little sense.

It does come across nit picky.

If she posts her opinion on a public forum, she should be prepared for others to voice their opinion as well. These threads are predominantly a discussion where people will voice opinions on topics.

I don't anyone to feel as if they cant voice their opinion, but they should be prepared that others may not share the same perspective on a given topic.

Her main complaint seems to be about the craft animation, i.e., "Spinning wheels do not work that way." But, as I pointed out uptopic, there *are* spinning wheels that work that way. It's just that the spinning wheel type she uses doesn't work that way.

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Originally Posted by Sanguisio

It does come across nit picky.

If she posts her opinion on a public forum, she should be prepared for others to voice their opinion as well....

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It is nit picky and I am.

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Originally Posted by Conradus

Her main complaint seems to be about the craft animation, i.e., "Spinning wheels do not work that way." But, as I pointed out uptopic, there *are* spinning wheels that work that way....

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While there are hand cranked wheels, and I once got to use a walking wheel, they are all continuous in operation.

Flywheel effect....

You should see the goldsmith's grinding wheel that spinning by itself