Crossovers: Yea or Nay?

So I got to thinking for a while and I have been always wondered to myself: what other crossovers could there be in ARR? For instance, I thought it would be really cool if they did a crossover for Final Fantasy XV celebrating its release, like what they did for when Lightning Returns came out and all the obtainable gear/weapons went with the event. Or I thought if somehow they did something along the lines of a Kingdom Hearts scenario type thing. I can already tell that wouldn't really be possible since the game wont release for a while and the whole Disney property thing. But seriously, who wouldn't want a weapon like Donalds Mage staff for WHM/BLM or a Keyblade for the PLD? We all have seen final fantasy characters incorporated into KH games before, why not do the same so that Sora or Noctis could be walking around Eorzea? These are just my personal thoughts, and Id love to hear what everyone else has to say. What would you like to see happen in the future for a crossover?

i don't personally care for them

Nay, don't need people keep asking for events to return because they missed the event.

No. Just no. And especially not a Kingdom Hearts one - even ignoring my overwhelming hatred for that series, the fact it's in itself a crossover game featuring Disney characters and themes would make intellectual property lawyers curl up in the foetal position and weep quietly to themselves at the legal red tape that would inevitably be required to be navigated at any hypothetical crossover with FFXIV.

Plus, the three crossover events we've had so far (the FFXI, FFXIII and DQ ones), have all had some deeper meta connection to FFXIV and Naoki Yoshida in particular:

The FFXI event was celebrating FFXI's eleventh anniversary of service, plus FFXIV is effectively FFXI's spiritual successor - FFXI's original producer was Hiromichi Tanaka who also was the original producer for FFXIV 1.0 whom Yoshi-P famously replaced following 1.0's disastrous launch. Thus the FFXI event was effectively Yoshi's respectful acknowledgement of his predecessor and FFXIV's MMO predecessor which the later had developed.

The FFXIII event was actually a private joke between Yoshi-P and Tetsuya Nomura, the later whom had put miqo'te racial starting armour as a costume for Lightning in Lightning Returns, along with the level 50 Grand Company GLA/PLD swords and shields as weapons, and Yoshi humorously stated at E3 back in 2013 (prior to launch) that, paraphrased, he would find "some way to repay the compliment" by "finding a way to have Lightning appear in FFXIV". Officially the event was also cross-marketing with LR~FFXIII's launch of course, but it came about as an in-joke between the two producers.

Finally, the Dragon Quest event was, like the FFXI event, to celebrate a milestone, in this case, Dragon Quest X's first anniversary of service - Yoshi-P previously worked on DQX's development team so it was also a fond call back to the previous team he was working with before he took over FFXIV.

Needless to say, I don't think we'll be seeing any more crossover events, save perhaps a FFXV themed one around it's release later in the year.

I would encourage crossover events so long as it's related to the company or the franchise. I would love a Dissidia-based thing where the event trials or fates would be against the heroes themselves. Go up against the original Warrior of Light? Yes please :D

So FF/KH crossovers? absolutely, I'm all for it. But NO anime crossovers, please. Especially considering the top candidates currently in the industry just would not fit the game (imo) and they've already been done to death in other game crossovers. Which might be part of the fear of doing crossovers altogether. You open the gates to particular requests.

Personally I'd rather not see too many actual mutual cross overs (cannon driven, on both sides of the fence). Its not really unique but I thought they could have a dreamer(s) who dreamt of these other FF/SE worlds, if the developers so choose they could include dreamscapes in a way to make FATEs and interact-able scenes with the use of echo (memories of a dream) and otherwise just use the dreamer as influence on the creation of an Eorzean made item.

You could also use the echo/dreamscape highly instance friendly idea to keep clutter down on any reoccurring event you wanted (like the many returned and often requested to be again Lightning event).

Good for gear as it can easily and repeatedly explain why the power of the item is not present, and allow you to do it as often or at little as you want. And imo importantly /requires/ respect to FFXIV's design as it would be made from FFXIV materials that and also not have any serious affect on lore.

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Originally Posted by DreadRabbit

So FF/KH crossovers? absolutely, I'm all for it. But NO anime crossovers, please.

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The dataminers over at Blue Gartr have found hints that we might be getting a Youkai Watch crossover, or all things. Talk about a franchise with zero overseas appeal...

(Again, it's a meta thing, because Yoshi-P is buds with the CEO of Level-5.)

Well, if it brings more gear, and doesn't feel too forced (like the Cloud outfit veteran reward, I fail to see any connection other than fanservice), I'm all for it. I mean variety is good, right? If it makes me see one less person running in the same get-up as two dozen others, it's already worth it.

That said, if we don't have a FFXV event when that gets its release, I'm gonna be seriously disappointed. >.>

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Originally Posted by Fenral

The dataminers over at Blue Gartr have found hints that we might be getting a Youkai Watch crossover, or all things. Talk about a franchise with zero overseas appeal...

(Again, it's a meta thing, because Yoshi-P is buds with the CEO of Level-5.)

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I need to try that still, thanks for reminding me. I'd be more open to anime-related crossovers if there wasn't a particular set of MMO-related anime fads still going strong right now. Love anime, just not too keen on what's popular atm.

And I agree with BreathlessTao: considering just how much went into FFXV's planned release I will be very, very surprised and sad if we don't have an event. I think it would work considering all of the visual and gameplay cues FFXV seems to be taking from XIV.

I'm all for crossover events, I love em, personally. That being said, who knows what's in the future, with Y'shtola going into the next Dissidia title, what's really stopping any(or all) of that cast from making an appearance in our world?

I wouldn't mind one via Kingdom Hearts if it also included Star Wars, there's so much potential seeing Vader with a bunch of other FF villains in the throne room of the Death star.

Otherwise I'd be ok with a FF only cross over if its not forced, and in an area similar to what the inside Atomos was meant to be in FFXI or some version of that void Gilgamesh is associated with. (if its all the same Gilgamesh in many of the titles).

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

No. Just no. And especially not a Kingdom Hearts one - even ignoring my overwhelming hatred for that series

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FINALLY someone else who seems to hate Kingdom Hearts at least as much as I do! I never understood the appeal of this game...

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Originally Posted by Kotemon

I wouldn't mind one via Kingdom Hearts if it also included Star Wars, there's so much potential seeing Vader with a bunch of other FF villains in the throne room of the Death star.

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Final Fantasy... Star Wars crossover? Oh your god, no. I don't so much mind crossovers, or better yet, simple nods to the older Final Fantasy games. But throwing Star Wars into the mix is just... No. What's next? Marvel? Yeah, let's do a Final Fantasy/Avengers crossover...

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

That said, if we don't have a FFXV event when that gets its release, I'm gonna be seriously disappointed. >.>

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I'm actually a little disappointed we didn't get a Type-0 HD event. Come on Square Enix, those Class Zero uniforms look awesome. :(

Hildibrand is mostly about cameos and there's those other special events.

I'm not a fan, but cross-overs cameos are here to stay

I have to say... no.

I want FF14 to be unique on it's own, like the rest of FF series. The only thing I allow for cross-over is Gilgamesh, which he already did. XD

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Originally Posted by BobbinT

I have to say... no.

I want FF14 to be unique on it's own, like the rest of FF series. The only thing I allow for cross-over is Gilgamesh, which he already did. XD

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If in regards to Gilgamesh you're referring to how he can cross into other worlds via the void, then he is far from the only character that could do crossovers.


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Dissidia laid a lot of groundwork for crossovers with the story revealing that powerful gods of the FF series are able to create their own dimensions, and even create "clones" of people from other worlds. Also it was revealed they don't have complete control over either of these, since even though the rejected clones were banished to the void, the villains in Dissidia were still able to find a tear in the world, then bring them through (although this was mostly exacerbated by ex-deaths intimate knowledge of the void).

So who's to say we couldn't have crossovers by way of clones from the dissidia universe that are "nearly" complete, but still were banished to the void, finding a way through one of the many portals to the void in the FFXIV world?

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Originally Posted by 72

Nay, don't need people keep asking for events to return because they missed the event.

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Same here. Nay on crossovers.

References and subtle nods are welcome. Crossovers, not so much. Leave fanfiction fodder out of FFXIV. >.>

Personally I enjoyed the crossover events that we have had. The only thing I don't enjoy is when they repeat that very same crossover event again, and again, and again. That takes away from it's special-ness.

Should keep them as one-time only events that go on for long enough that anyone that wants to participate can (like a month or so) and then it's over. If you weren't playing at the time, that's your fault or your unfortunate reality.

I just don't like to see special events like this happen more than once. Once is enough per event.

The only problem with cross over events in FFXIV is that they need to make sense as to why they are happening because this game is actually a serious fantasy title and takes it's lore seriously. I absolutely loved the way they did the Dragon Quest, FFXI and FFXIII:LR cross over events, as they were able to pull them off and still have them fit in with the world of FFXIV. So as long as they can manage that with other potential titles, then I'd be all for it. It's fun stuff

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

I'm actually a little disappointed we didn't get a Type-0 HD event. Come on Square Enix, those Class Zero uniforms look awesome. :(

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Right :o that too~

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Originally Posted by BobbinT

I want FF14 to be unique on it's own, like the rest of FF series.

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Waaaaaaaaaaaaay too late for that, tbh.....

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Originally Posted by Gralna

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I'm already a big fan of Gilga since FF5 day back on SNES. Though... thanks for additional insight from Dissidia series. ^^

There's also the quite-recent FF Record Keepers if you want to throw that into the fray. lol

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Waaaaaaaaaaaaay too late for that, tbh.....

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Fan-service, I blame that. lol

I kinda like how 1.0 goes back then. ^^;

I'm kinda against the idea of crossovers, even with all the events that have already taken place. I just don't feel it belongs the way its implemented, and I don't get nostalgic because I haven't played the majority of FF games.

Haven't played other FF games but my short answer for crossovers is yes. If it brings nostalgy to FF fans and if it doesn't impact FFXIV lore much, I don't mind it.

A Kingdom Hearts crossover probably won't ever happen, for the same reason Sora can't get into Dissidia: Disney technically owns the rights to all KH original stuff, and the legal bullshit involved with allowing SE to use it in their other products isn't worth the trouble.

As a long standing Wild Arms player (it's the series I've played most chapters of, after Final Fantasy), I very well welcome crossovers!

I loved in particular how Wild Arms 5 had cameos from all previous WA chapters scattered throughout the world map that gave you side-quest lines at the end of which you would be rewarded with their original outfits! It was so amazing!

A dissidia arcade is gonna release and eventually release on PS4, a FFXIV character is going to appear there, it has a visual design alike FFXIV, we have many references already (CT, GS, Final Heaven, TT cards, Setser costume, Terra's theme, magitec in the lore, materia, minions, veteran rewards etc)

So... people, we will be getting more gear and references of past FFs, why not better have an event that justifies them instead of just appearing (like the TT cards)

I am for any and all kinds of crossovers and references to past FFs, of course I have favorites, but I wont complain if a game not on my top gets referenced (but please... can I have some/more stuff from FFV, VI and XI???)

As long as the crossovers make at least a little sense and all rewards that can be acquired from the crossover events can be acquired elsewhere in the future, I'm 100% okay with it.

I still think the Bohemian gear, Guardian Corps gear, the FFXIII weapons, the Lightning/Snow hairstyles, the Shantotto minion, the Wind-up Brickman minion, the Thug's Mug, and the King Slime hat should be added to the cash shop.

More specifically, I would like crossover events for:

Type-0 HD
FFXV
Dissidia Final Fantasy (If/when it hits the PS4)
Star Ocean 5
FFXII HD Remaster

A FFXV cross over I wouldn't mind - but I'd doubt it would happen.
FFXIV x KH..... mmmmeeh. Not really a fan of the idea of Donald/Goofy/whatever poking about in Gridania or something. But then again, I was never really a Disney nut.

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FFXIII/etc had a bit of fantasy element that made hopping dimensions a little more plausible (I haven't played all three, but from what I've seen... I mean, they end up being ancient 20 year olds, for pete's sake) but I can't see the guys in XV derping out and being all "woah, dafaq, we all fantasy knights'n'wizards up in here". FFXV is pretty modern in environment (dem generic white plastic lawn chairs...).

Despite that, I wouldn't mind a cross over at all. xD Only thing I got for an idea to cross over FFXV and FFXIV is Prompto messing something up (considering a.) He messed up the car in the demo, b.) it seems Noctis is a wielder of some heavier duty magics from what I interpreted from playing the demo, so maybe he interrupted something...though... was there an old summon that had anythign to do with time? o_O or of the debuffing sort...?) and sorta like Lightning, ends up in Eorzea with DeadEye as a Fate boss. But that's too similar to the Lightning event....

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

More specifically, I would like crossover events for:

Type-0 HD
FFXV

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Yaaaaaaasss plz *_*

Also, speaking of Type-0.... does anyone else see/play Ace with the support card deck and think Astrologian? lol (or, at least, an AST dpsing while not healing...)

If they did a KH crossover, I want Sora's KH2 outfit for gear drop.

I'm all for crossovers, as long as they stick to events similar to Lightning Returns. So far there are tons of fan service from other SE games they've made, FF series specifically, but making the crossovers more tangible to the world would start to open too many holes in the world/universe. I think the closest game to touch on crossover everything was Kingdom Hearts, and even then, everything was loosely tied to the world through dreams/otherlife.

I'd like to see crossovers from other SE games than the FF series.

Chrono Trigger/Cross
Secret of Mana
Star Ocean

Just to name a few.

All i want is a bravely default event. It's pretty much final fantasy under another name with most classes, spells, outfits and the characters are pretty much minion material thanks to our elder god Akihiko Yoshida.
I don't care if nintendo is butthurt over passing the rights for a event on a PS/PC game, just do it yoshi-p. You can do it.

Crossovers are okay. SE is pretty much doing whatevs with that anyway, but mostly in regards to glamour. The last crossover event was the whole FFXIII, Dragon Quest, and FFXI bananza explosion, but they haven't really did anything new after that. The latest crossover glamour thing was pretty much the Setzer outfit, followed by the Cloud FFVII: AC outfit. Also the whole Dissidia pictures on the TT cards is a nice recycled touch.

I like Kingdom Hearts to be honest, and glamours from the game would be nice to have, along with FFXV glamours as well. But I would be against having an event with Kingdom Hearts, and seeing Sora in Eorzea. He already meddles with different worlds and needs to stay out of Eorzea.

... and he needs to simmer down.

I'll admit that I wouldn't mind an event where we could get Geno and Mallow dolls. >_>

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

I'll admit that I wouldn't mind an event where we could get Geno and Mallow dolls. >_>

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This would necessitate the creation of a Super Mario RPG 2. Get to it, SE.

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Nay, don't need people keep asking for events to return because they missed the event.

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Where did I mention asking to bring back those events just because people missed it in my post? I only used those as an example to put it in perspective. And plus I've already accepted that I missed them when I had the chances and it's really no big deal. Not the end of the world.

Yes, crossovers of the type of Dissidia, all protagonist from I to XIV
Hydaelyn for Cosmos role and Zodiark for Chaos role

Something needs to be clarified. I think some of you misinterpreted/misunderstood the first thing I posted. For the KH thing I only mentioned Sora as someone walking around in Eorzea, not Donald and Goofy people. I specifically mentioned their names by them having special weapons that we all could maybe have, I DID NOT SAY I WANTED DISNEY CHARACTERS IN FFXIV. God no. I'm not that annoying fan lol. I already mentioned that it wouldn't have been possible because of Disney properties (it's common sense) so please dont jump me for that. Speaking of SE I'm pretty sure Sora is owned by them? I could be wrong but still. That's why I said he could walk around Eorzea. And just him, nobody else. I feel some of you did not fully read what I put down. But I will take some fault because I should have been more articulate in the beginning. I didn't mean to make the thread turn out like this, I am sorry for turning it into a negative atmosphere everyone.

Another thing too, I just quickly thought up of some other games that I thought could have worked, hence why I said Final Fantasy XV and KH in the original post. It was just something to get started by putting it into the bucket, I had hoped it would have been more added into it

Another thought: now that some people whined enough to change SE's mind (let's not have a discussion about that...could well be worth an entire thread of its own, but it would just get locked anyway), can we at least have Mobius's original outfit in FFXIV please?

https://40.media.tumblr.com/f4bffbae...o3_r1_1280.jpg

https://36.media.tumblr.com/ba4ff5a0...o2_r1_1280.jpg

I know a lot of people don't like skimpy outfits, but let's face it, there are just as many who do. And FF does have a history of them when it comes to girls. Also, this looks versatile enough to be wearable by any job, maybe with some modifications (and by that I don't mean more skin being covered up). I would just love to have this, even if it was added as another 1mil MGP prize in the GS.