Thaumaturge Aetherial Manipulation

I've never used this ability, and I don't think it is completely useless. But, have you ever used? The only use I think of it is trying to avoid an AOE but in playstation I don't have enough time to cast it and it's better to try to run away.

It can be used to cancel out movement (Using at the very beginning of Levi's deck slam, for instance, will jump you to your target, and then you're free to cast and move as everyone else slides around). It can also be useful in minimizing movement time, since the abilities duration is often shorter then the time it would take to run the same distance, allowing for more spell up time.

Personally, I don't use it much. I have a bad habit of accidental manipulating to the main tank, and my BLM needs the exercise, so I might as well run.

I have a macro set up to send me to the tank, and I use it in dungeons when I pull hate.

I use this all the time. I freaking love it! I set up a macro to target the top 3 players in the party list other than me. I usually have tanks and healers on the top of the list. If that player is out of range, it will teleport me to the next player in the list. It's great for getting out of sticky situations, and just to look awesome! -"Why is that BLM standing in the AOE, he's gonna die!?"- Then bam, pop the Manip. everythings all good. Love doing it on the Fenrir boss of Snowcloak, where you have to hide behind the crystal.

How can i macro it? I have never used macros and it seems useful

It has its uses, but I think it would be better if it were targeted like Ninja's Shukuchi so that you didn't have to rely on other players' placement in order to move where you want to go.

I hope summoner will get something similar in the expansion. It is really fun and useful ability.

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Originally Posted by AlphaSonic

How can i macro it? I have never used macros and it seems useful

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/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <t>

You can replace "<t>" with "<mo>" (mouseover), "<1>" through "<8>" (numbers on party list, 1 is you), or any other target.

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Originally Posted by AlphaSonic

How can i macro it? I have never used macros and it seems useful

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Im at work atm, but i think this is how mine looks...

/macroicon "Aetherial Manipulation"
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <2>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <3>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <4>

You can also use <mo> for Mouse Over, instead of party list numbers. SO you can just hover your mouse over a Party Member then hit the macro.

Then here is the another I use frequently.

/macroicon Apocotastasis
/ac Apocotastasis <tt>
/p Some clever chat goes here

With <tt> being my target's target.

Thanks for that, let's see if I use it now more often

If you're on mouse/KB then I think they best way to use it would be with a <mo> macro. Gives you the freedom to move to any party member you want by just hovering your cursor over them. I use it frequently in every turn in final coil with the exception of 11.

I think it's extremely useful in coil, but even then, is really situational and I use it more along the lines of panic button.

There's certain situations that Aetherial is pretty good. The first one that cross my mind is fountains in T12. The way my group does it (We solo Warrior tank) Sch takes the first 2 stacks, I take the 2 others then Paladin takes the remaining.

If fountain is far from you, I Aetherial on my Scholar. I suaully use it during a proc to save time. Even if you are inside, the tether will stay to the person closest to the center. You move next to the target, not inside.

I don't think the skill have much use outside coil, but I think it has much use in coil itself.

I don't main a BLM but have played a little with it in FCoB, and I think it is rather useful. As a BLM you should cut down on movements which prevents you from casting, so AM is pretty much useful.

For T10, you can use it to teleport to stack for either tether or charge.

For T11, you can use it to teleport to the egg after both sphere and cube died. If you had a MNK, more than likely the MNK will shoulder tackle over to the egg and there you can abuse this by AM yourself to the MNK so you don't have to run over.

For T12, you can use it to teleport to the DPS party to stack for first blackfire since your starting cast is no where near the stacking point. I use it to move into fountains too since I don't like to stand near the fountain make it a clusterf**k where pinons fly around that area. When it is time to enter fountain, I just AM to the guy currently in the fountain and he moves out


I haven't played BLM in T13 yet, but I guess there are things you can do like using it to move back to the party after dealing with earthshakers, or teleporting to the center for megaflare stacking if someone is already there (healers maybe?)

Pretty much any time you ever need to move you should teleport instead if it's an option. The job thrives on minimizing movement and maintaining casting uptime. Aetherial Manipulation is one of the best tools with which to do that. It makes a bigger difference in coil, but there are times to use it beneficially on just about all content.

I use it to catch up to people when they run ahead of me.

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It's also really really good in PvP when you have overextended a bit.

I wish it was more like the Ninja teleport though. And also on a shorter cooldown. It would be fun to jump around with it.

I use it a lot in Mor Dhona, while we are running about waiting for last few places of PF to fill up

It does have some pretty decent uses in FCOB, but I find you have to have planned in advance when you'll be using it. I'm a lowly PS4 peasant, and targeting team members can be a bit of a pain, the time it takes you may well have just run most of the way anyway. Have your team laid out in a way that the person you'll be AMing to is only one "up" or "down" click away, or macro it

I use This ability all the time and it is really useful. Like others have said its best if you set up a macro so you can mouse over someone and use it or just got straight to a designated part member.

I have several macros for this depending on the situation. arterial manipulation can be used as a panic button, but I find it more useful to use to minimize my down time and get extra spells out that black mages who don't use The ability would not be able to cast.

A very basic example of this is staying out and getting a few extra fire spells in the Scylla fight in ST while everyone runs to the pads for daybreak, and then using arterial manipulation to stalk with your party right before the cast finishes.

You can also "cheat" in some of the gold saucer GATEs using it, if a party member has already made it to the goal and you have a clear line of sight to them you can teleport to them at the goal, which is kind of funny to do

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

For T10, you can use it to teleport to stack for either tether or charge.

For T11, you can use it to teleport to the egg after both sphere and cube died. If you had a MNK, more than likely the MNK will shoulder tackle over to the egg and there you can abuse this by AM yourself to the MNK so you don't have to run over.

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I use AM after the charge, not before, to get out of the lightning floor ASAP.

Also, if you use it after finishing off the cube (#teamcube), just be careful you don't instagib yourself flying through Kaliya.

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Originally Posted by SunDriedRainbow

I use AM after the charge, not before, to get out of the lightning floor ASAP.

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Hmm I guess that works too. I'm usually positioned on a further distance so it would prob take me more effort to drag myself between each cast to move over to stack rather than moving out (used sprint plus usually getting a proc during charge, plus boss takes considerably long to move back to position and that tailswipe thing so there's time to move between casts without wasting uptime, at least for me).

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Originally Posted by SunDriedRainbow

Also, if you use it after finishing off the cube (#teamcube), just be careful you don't instagib yourself flying through Kaliya.

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Good reminder, I've seen my old team's BLM did that once and I laughed lol (although it was in P1, he flew through the barofield).

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

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AM'ing to the stack location (the person nearest) is... tedious. I don't trust it lol. I'd rather hit my sprint and run. It is useful for Gigaflare/Rage of Bahamut stacking though.

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Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline

AM'ing to the stack location (the person nearest) is... tedious. I don't trust it lol. I'd rather hit my sprint and run. It is useful for Gigaflare/Rage of Bahamut stacking though.

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Which turn? Since you deleted everything in the quote lol.

Err, I thougth Gigaflare and Rage of Bahamut would be dead giveaways ^^;

I use this ability constantly, especially in T13. Its great for Giga's and RoB, plus it makes my raid team freak out all the time, so thats a plus. Just the other day was farming T13. Got earth shaker in the final phase wasn't paying attention and cornered my self with no where to run after 3rd drop. Timed AM right, dropped it and took no damage from the puddle.

I use it pretty often. Lots of cases where I would rather be where another player is standing, to avoid mechanics or group up. It's rarely required, but it saves time on a job that's all about saving time.

Random example, in Keeper of the Lake I'll use it to get away from a fire patch with only a very brief pause in dps.

AM is pretty much the best thing that can happen to BLM,being that the classes only weakness is movement,learning to use it correctly and using it often is key to maximizing your dps,as for the macros,i have found this one to be great,what ti basically does is try to teleport to the mouse-over target,if you don't target anyone it teleports to focus target,making it a great OH fudge button.
/macroicon "Aetherial Manipulation"
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <f>A

I almost never use this except to try to catch up to a tank advancing quickly in a dungeon. For anything else it's almost always faster and safer for me just to sprint and move normally.

It would see more use for me if it could be freely targeted, but having to locate a target to use it on, shift to that target, use it, and then shift back to targeting the enemy is no bueno.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I almost never use this except to try to catch up to a tank advancing quickly in a dungeon. For anything else it's almost always faster and safer for me just to sprint and move normally.

It would see more use for me if it could be freely targeted, but having to locate a target to use it on, shift to that target, use it, and then shift back to targeting the enemy is no bueno.

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Then you are missing out on casts, quite a lot.

If you have to move a long distance via sprint you might have to scathe up to 2 times where you could just cast-AM-cast with your only loss in downtime during the AM animation.

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Then you are missing out on casts, quite a lot.

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I'm pretty sure I miss out on more casting time doing everything I described above.

If you don't, then great.

Our blm I think either focus targets me Or have me in a certain order slot in the pt list. Lol

As a bard. There is an unspoken agreement between us where he teleports to my location very often. if the mechanics mandate it. Lol. And I know that this lalafell will need me to be at that spot so that he can teleport lol. Basically minimize his movement.

Example t12 blackfire dps stack. Especially after the initial pull.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I'm pretty sure I miss out on more casting time doing everything I described above.

If you don't, then great.

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I don't, but it comes with practice.

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It would see more use for me if it could be freely targeted, but having to locate a target to use it on, shift to that target, use it, and then shift back to targeting the enemy is no bueno.

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For the above, it is probably the way you do it, you aren't supposed to click a AM target after your cast. You hit the F1 button and select your AM target immediately during the cast, and at the end of the cast you AM over, and switch back to your enemy, which is usually the boss, by tabbing, if it is the sole target. If not you can click the boss on the map (which is usually big ass enough) or the adds via enmity list. That would require you to tweak your UI so that you have access to things really quick without losing time.

Alternatively you can configure your AM to a macros that utilize "mouseover" command so you don't have to click on an AM target.

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Originally Posted by Empty-handed

Our blm I think either focus targets me Or have me in a certain order slot in the pt list. Lol

As a bard. There is an unspoken agreement between us where he teleports to my location very often. if the mechanics mandate it. Lol. And I know that this lalafell will need me to be at that spot so that he can teleport lol. Basically minimize his movement.

Example t12 blackfire dps stack. Especially after the initial pull.

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You know, that's the thing about BRDs. Except the derp ones, those who knows their stuff always appear at the correct places at the correct time. BRDs don't require positionals too so you hardly find them out of place either. Like your T12 blackfire example, BRD have almost no business anywhere else (I myself parked at the blackfire stacking point straight) so your BLM AM'ing to you is almost a safe bet :P

I love AM on T12 really. So much fun using it. And pretty much playing T12 as a BLM.

AM to blackfire stack point after pull.
AM out melees at boss position after dropping bluefire.
AM into fountain of fire (and manawall the damn pinons like a boss :cool: )

Thanks for the Focus Target Macro info. Never thought of that use for it. Makes it easier than setting up a bunch of different macros when you can just preemtively have a focus target set.

I like it on T13. You can sit ready for Earth Shaker and then AM to a healer if you don't get it. I like it for that more than porting in for Mega Flare since it's too random on who will get picked.

Shunpo for the win and you know it.

Using of AM in FCoB:
T10 - Before/after charge
T11 - Seed of the Sea
T12 - After initial pull, moving from fountain to fountain
T13 - Stacking after/before mega, giga and what not.