Animus Books: Dungeon Objectives.

Animus Books: Dungeon Objectives

As it stands now you have to be alive when the target of a dungeon is killed or you don't get credit.

if you happen to be dead when the boss is killed you just spent 25mins-90mins for nothing. Which just happened in Temple of Qarn Normal for me as a bard.

I made a valiant effort to kite the last boss around the room while the healer res'd the tank. The circumstances are unforgivable, boss is under 10% health, myself just 1 hit away from death, each arrow pokes his health down little by little. Just as the boss dies, he executes his room wide aoe, thus slaying me. Final results, got the newbies their first time clear, i didn't get my book clear. It's like the design is setup for veteran players to avoid newbies to minimize this easily fix'able risk in poor foresight on the dev's part. 65 minutes spent in that dungeon because we had a few wipes as i explained mechanics and the newbies went through the learning curve.

This has happened several times on other weapons for other clears. Make the struggle rewarding. Why should i go to such lengths with such an unforeseen obstacle looming in the shadows, as it makes itself known, it's too late and you lament at all the precious time and effort spent.

Should not be this way, especially when you will deal with new players that are experiencing the first time. Even more so when the objectives are solely designed to recycle content so veteran players can push new players through dungeons. Needs to be rewarding not a double whammy of trolly punishment.

Make it so your char can still get the dungeon clear towards Atma book objectives whether dead or alive.

I'm in the que again, wish me luck.

Nah all relic objectives are designed with as many pointless time sinks that SE could think of in order to inflict maximum suffering on the players. The idea is that the questline is so mindnumbingly boring that it discourages players from grinding and blowing through it as fast as possible since they will hit many walls where they are like "This sucks" "Meh I'll do it again next week. "Meh I got better things to do with my time" and players just do their relics when they feel like it in pieces at a time due to how boring and mindnumbing the whole process is.

They likely recruited some of the world's greatest minds to sit in a room together and study how to make the players waste the maximum amount of time while still being able to call this "game content" rather than, "Sadistic torture inflicted on masochist gamers". However, after the zodiac version of the quest, the great minds left SE leaving their team to figure out how to make the quest that takes the relics from 125 to 135 thus you're left with something less sadistic.

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Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah

many pointless time sinks

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too many people crying "theres nothing to do." im not in that lot of players.

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Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah

questline is so mindnumbingly boring.

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I enjoy the social encounters. My experience in Qarn just now is making me question the adventure with these dead or alive flag to clear requirements. Whats important is that i was there, it's highly likely my contributions to slaying the target were crucial.

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Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah

They likely recruited some of the world's greatest minds to sit in a room together and study how to make the players waste the maximum amount of time while still being able to call this "game content" rather than, "Sadistic torture inflicted on masochist gamers". However, after the zodiac version of the quest, the great minds left SE leaving their team to figure out how to make the quest that takes the relics from 125 to 135 thus you're left with something less sadistic.

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lolwut

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Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang

lolwut

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He means the zodiac to zeta is rewarding, easier and not a total chump chore.
He means the Eldritch Evils that loomed beneath the floorboards of SE relic design up to and including 125 dissipated into the dark ethers from whence they came, to sleep undisturbed until such time as despair would be needed anew.

If you release, you will be alive and get credit, IIRC

So, if you see the boss dying and that it's unlikely you'll be raised in time, just release

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

If you release, you will be alive and get credit, IIRC

So, if you see the boss dying and that it's unlikely you'll be raised in time, just release

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this doesn't help in situations where the boss dies at the same time as you.
the drop SHOULD work like the zodiac one, and reward upon exit.
conversely, the zodiac one should be a 100% drop rate like the animus books soooooo....

Next patch we might see an increase in drop rate for Zodiac items, who knows.
I'm getting all 10 Zeta relics.

Sounds like youre just ranting because you got unlucky. Same thing happened to me in Haukke Manor. I just re-ran it.

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Originally Posted by Chukkaque

Sounds like youre just ranting because you got unlucky. Same thing happened to me in Haukke Manor. I just re-ran it.

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Same, but Cutter's Cry....Only happened once during the Animus stage. /thumbsup! Re-ran, no biggie. :)

At least for the book you know you have 100% chance to get the drop as long as you're alive. There are also some (rare but possible) instances where you can join in progress and the group is up to the last boss already and you can get your item in less than 5 minutes.

I've had so many bad runs trying to make my Zodiac that I just can't feel sorry for you in the slightest... When you get to this step it doesn't matter if you're alive or not. I feel like that 1/9 drop chance people are rumouring is total BS. I think they said they boosted the drop rate on it too but I'm just not feeling it.

It's way too early for you to be complaining about your relic weapon... Just wait until you reach the later steps...

Yeah you get to find 75 alexandrite and then meld 75 pieces of materia of varying grades from 1-4. Hope you don't fail any melds or you get to go find more materia which isn't cheap!

Then you get to treasure hunting in assigned dungeons hoping drops at the end, didn't get it? Run it again! Plus items that require 20,000k seals x 4, items that you need 400 sol for x 4

Light grinding, more light grinding.

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Originally Posted by Chukkaque

Sounds like youre just ranting because you got unlucky. Same thing happened to me in Haukke Manor. I just re-ran it.

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If you read the last line of my op. you would see that i re-ran it.

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Originally Posted by kyuven

this doesn't help in situations where the boss dies at the same time as you.
the drop SHOULD work like the zodiac one, and reward upon exit.
conversely, the zodiac one should be a 100% drop rate like the animus books soooooo....

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Actually, the dungeon objectives are not asking for dungeon completions, but killing specific bosses in the dungeon. They are classified under dungeons because the targets exist in dungeons only.

So the current system actually is how it "should" work.