I know I've been seeing videos on youtube on doing this, however, I may have missed out on abilities that could help me get through. I have tried a few times but failed and quit in the end. I am at MRD/WAR Lv36 with all gear repaired and axe weapon (also repaired) up to date
Heres what I've been using - Defiance, Provoke, Wrath I-V, Maim, Skull Skunder, Butchers Block, Inner Beast, Blood Bath - anything missing?
I'm thinking I could use Second Wind or anything similar to help replenish my HP, as well as healer help.
taking down Titan as tank
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03-21-2015, 06:07 AM-DMR-taking down Titan as tank
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03-21-2015, 06:20 AMTam_Hawkins
As you'r below lvl50 we are talking about Story mode? Can you tell us what exactly is going wrong (how Long did you guys fight/ %of his live/ state of your Party members and so on) because there should not be much going on in that fight.
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03-21-2015, 06:26 AMAshkendor
Titan story mode? As long as you're not losing hate and you're utilizing your cooldowns you're doing it right. Have you cross-classed Convalescence at all? It's a good cooldown that you should already have access to. Step 1: pull with Tomahawk and face him North. Step 2: Endure the beating from the fat man in the loincloth.
What exactly is happening to cause failures?
Looking at your Lodestone info, your accessories are desperately in need of some TLC. Some of them are caster accessories (they give int and mind bonuses), some are bard/ninja accessories (they give dex), and some are simply outdated (level 15-19). Look for some accessories with vitality or strength on them. At the level you're at, you could either use sphene (vitality) or sunstone (strength). Silver accessories would also work. -
03-21-2015, 06:42 AMEye_GoreWhile in a party you shouldn't have to worry about healing yourself so much. While it can help, especially if the healer is having trouble, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. The healer shouldn't have much of an issue keeping you alive, unless they're dead of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by -DMR-
Hey now, he's just big boned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashkendor
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03-21-2015, 06:42 AMSpookyGhost
Tank doesn't actually have much to do in Titan NM, you just sit there and press IB whenever it's up. You're probably just getting stuck with bad groups. Try making a premade, maybe?
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03-21-2015, 06:46 AMNyalia
Titan Storymode is all about the DPS/Healers and their ability to dodge Titan's "Landslide" ability. The tank just has to hold aggro and face Titan away from the party. A few things:
Bring Titan to the edge of the platform and tank him there. That way, if a party member gets hit by Landslide, they might not fall off. Every time he jumps, pull him back to the edge.
When Titan jumps and the edges of the platform start glowing red, you (well, and everyone else too) need to be as close to the red zone as possible without being in the red zone. The damage you take from the jump is based on how close you are to the center, but the red part falls off.
When bombs appear (there are bombs in normal, right? If not, ignore this! I get normal and Hard Mode confused sometimes), get directly between the two closest to you and right up against the edge of the platform. That's the safe spot. Or, if your healer is good and you find you're not good at finding that safe spot, you can just sit on top of the closest bomb and soak the damage (try to have "Inner Beast" up when the bomb goes off if you do this). The important thing is not to be in a spot where two bomb explosions will hurt you - that's a lot of damage.
You should be in Defiance and you should be using Inner Beast (the WAR 35 skill) as often as you can. It gives really nice damage mitigation.
If you aren't dying and you are holding aggro, and you are still wiping, then there's nothing you personally can do. It's not your fault. If the healer fails to dodge a landslide, it's a wipe. If both DPS fail to dodge Landslide, it's a wipe. Without enough DPS, you can't break Titan's Heart during the heart phase fast enough, which wipes the party. If you're in an FC, you may want to ask your FC for assistance.
(And, I know you aren't, but if you ever tank Titan as a PLD, never use Cover in that fight. Landslide's knockback appears to transfer through Cover, causing you to fly away if the person you cover gets hit. Funniest wipe I've ever had - I'm sitting there in front of Titan and suddenly zooom! I shoot off into the distance.) -
03-21-2015, 06:59 AMAshkendorNah, story mode only has Landslide, Weight of the Land, and Granite Gaol. No bombs. ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyalia
Lmao... the mental image. I forget when I learned that cover transferred the knockback to you.Quote:
(And, I know you aren't, but if you ever tank Titan as a PLD, never use Cover in that fight. Landslide's knockback appears to transfer through Cover, causing you to fly away if the person you cover gets hit. Funniest wipe I've ever had - I'm sitting there in front of Titan and suddenly zooom! I shoot off into the distance.)
I wonder if Tempered Will/Hallowed Ground would save you (since those prevent Landslide from knocking you back). -
03-21-2015, 07:11 AMChihaya
There's nothing much a tank can do other than just hold hate and don't face Titan at other people so they all get cleaved - face him outwards.
What you can do though, is to replace all your INT/MND/DEX accessories to VIT (or STR though I wouldn't really do it at this level). By increasing your HP pool, it makes it easier for your healer.
You may also want to go play in Brayflox Longstop a few times - the exp is good and the cavalry (tank) gear is good too. -
03-21-2015, 07:50 AMNyaliaOh, well, then you should watch out for Granite Gaol, which petrifies a party member and prevents them from doing anything until it's broken. If you are able to, target the Gaol and throw Tomahawks at it (or, if the Gaol happens to be in melee range of the boss, melee the heck out of it - just don't turn Titan to face the party while doing so). This is especially important for you to do if one of the DPS has already fallen off the platform (which, by itself, is not necessarily a wipe), as a significant portion of your party is unable to act until it's broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashkendor
I haven't tested it, but I'd be very surprised if Tempered Will didn't work. It seems to prevent all abilities that move you involuntarily. Hmm, thinking about it, I wonder if it also prevents jump pads from working, or the water spouts in Hullbreaker. Ah well, things to test when I get the opportunity! Because science!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashkendor
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03-21-2015, 03:51 PM-DMR-
Tempered Will/Hallowed Ground...what's that?
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03-21-2015, 04:24 PMaerololHigh level Paladin skills that Warriors cannot use.Quote:
Originally Posted by -DMR-
(And neither a PLD at level 34ish in Titan story mode)
Ignore that. -
03-21-2015, 04:39 PMLemuria
Focus on gear upgrades. Swap out all of your accessories first and foremost. They're largely pointless for a tank. You don't need INT or MND. Use the following instead.
Sphene Choker, Sphene Earring, Sphene Bracelet, Sphene Ring (x2)
This will do two things. Firstly, your HP will vastly increase thanks to the Vitality, secondly you'll get a boost on your 'Parry' skill which means you can defend against attacks more often. Warriors rely heavily on HP to do their tanking early on, so focus on accessories and gear which provides Vitality and you'll go far.
If you see an opportunity to get some materia melds onto your gear, try melding some strength materia onto your accessories for extra aggro-holding or parry materia onto your armors (since they're capped on both strength and vitality). Materia melding shouldn't really be necessary, but it can greatly improve your odds. -
03-21-2015, 05:03 PMNeri
Ignore the hallow ground for now since its a lv50 (?) ability.
Not sure about what lv tempered will comes though. It's the skill that prevent you from being knocked back.
Anyway, what went wrong in the fight though? -
03-21-2015, 06:50 PMTam_HawkinsWarriors cannot use These skillsQuote:
Originally Posted by Neri
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03-21-2015, 06:55 PMEvangela
you had bad party members. find some good ones.
tanking story mode Titan is very easy. if you didn't get landslide and fall off cliff then it's the healer's fault or someone else's fault. -
03-21-2015, 06:59 PMNeriAh that's true, I forgot all about that, haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam_Hawkins
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03-21-2015, 09:19 PMSpookyGhostBoth Tempered Will and Hallowed work on Landslides, just to save you some trouble there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyalia
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03-21-2015, 09:57 PMStormrider
I would just shout in one of the cities for help. Most people don't mind helping. Just get the highest vit items you can first. Hold hate and you dont have to dodge 3/4s of titans stuff unless dps are bad. Since he doesn't target the player with the most hate with landslide or goal.
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03-21-2015, 10:35 PMKeydahThis comment made me look up the OP's lodestone profile and I agree. As a tank, you should try to keep up-to-date vitality/parry accessories on. Each job has main/secondary stats it should focus on (your main as a tank is, of course, vitality for HP - your bonus points should be in it and it should be your accessories' main stat) and your accessories are important to keep up to date too so that you can get the best of those stats. It could help a LOT to get that extra vit and parry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemuria
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03-21-2015, 11:13 PMAshkendorYeah sorry, that was just us having some idle musings. They're high level paladin skills. ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by -DMR-
Honestly, I leveled up my Paladin using vitality accessories (wow that was like a whole year ago now o.O) and my Warrior wearing strength accessories. The former can give you a HP cushion when you have a not-so-great healer with you, and the latter can give you some much needed damage when you're fighting things on your own (like in FATEs) as well as boosting the enmity you generate. Tanks are a bit of an odd duck in that they basically have two primary stats. It's kinda academic which you use as long as you're using something that raises at least one of them. I think people are overestimating how much the parry helps, in any case. You have to stack an awful lot of parry to get any measurable effect out of it. That's another discussion for another time though. -
03-22-2015, 02:02 AM-DMR-Thats helped alot (plus some food), and managed to take Titan down :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemuria
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03-22-2015, 04:38 AMLemuriaGlad you found it useful.Quote:
Originally Posted by -DMR-
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03-24-2015, 12:17 AMNyaliaWe know. The question was whether they worked on the knockback from Landslide when it's been transferred through Cover, not when you yourself were hit. Of course, this is an off topic tangent, so we should get back on topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpookyGhost
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03-24-2015, 01:29 AMDrOstler
How to tank titan:
Step 1: Stand still
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03-24-2015, 03:49 AMAshkendorhttp://i.imgur.com/KP8wXYZ.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by DrOstler
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03-24-2015, 04:36 AMKumabear76Never pull with Provoke. All provoke does is put you at the top of all current aggro pools by 1 point. If you pull with Provoke, that sets your current aggro at all of 1. On the other hand, pulling with Tomahawk or Overpower places you significantly higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by -DMR-
Not much to add other than what's already been said. Face titan away from the party and trust in your DPS and healers. As a tank, your job is simply to stand there and get hit while the DPS's burn him down.
EDIT: I'm curious if you're just listing the skills you used or is that your rotation? If it's your rotation, you're missing out on lots here. Skull sunder and Butcher's Block chain together with Heavy Swing to grant bonuses. I assume you know this or you couldn't build Wrath. -
03-24-2015, 06:45 AMTeppieOne thing to keep in mind though is provoke has a significantly further range than Shield Lob and Tomahawk, so it can be useful in pulling occasionally, or even tank swaps (Tonberries in WP,Chirada in Garuda Ex)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumabear76
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03-24-2015, 07:17 AMaisustrong
parry is icky
and so is 2 slot tank armor (as in chest peices that wont let you wear a hat and leg peices that wont let you wear shoes)
avoid them both
2 slot tank armor is always inferior to same level, same quality single slot peices
parry is the least useful stat for tank (among all of the stats that have any relevance at all for tanks: str, vit, det, crit, acc, skill speed and parry)
go with gear wearable by gla mrd pld war
go with accessories stated with str and/or vit
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03-24-2015, 07:22 AMEye_GoreThis one time at Titan HM. The other tank says to me "hey you want to MT?" "No not really" I reply. They say "Its really easy to MT", "I know not my first rodeo, too boring MT on Titan" No reply and the fight went on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashkendor
Though I have seen many times people running around to where the MT is, drawing landslide to them and its happened to me so you actually have to move a little. One guy I guess wasn't expecting it, maybe got a drink of water and got knocked off, man was he all kinds of upset. -
03-24-2015, 07:46 AMAshkendorHah. My friends routinely say they've got a present for me and drop a WotL on me when I'm MT. I may or may not move, depending on how much hp I have at the time. It's even funnier when they catch a MB to the face and die. Then I get to jump up and down on their corpse while I laugh at them. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Eye_Gore