When is summoner getting ramuh/shiva/levi?

I notice I haven't seen people taking about this lately. Isn't summoner supposed to get ramuh Shiba and levi soon?

Or did they change their minds?

Nobody is getting any new spells or abilities until the expansion.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Nobody is getting any new spells or abilities until the expansion.

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Seems to be getting new spellings though

If SE handles this expansion right, they could effectively add a bunch very easily.

If they give ACN a new carbuncle (amethyst carbuncle) could be a purple carby.
This would give smn a new fairy, and summoner ramuh egi. Then one of the abilities
SMN learns could be summon 5, and could be leviathan or shiva egi. I think that would
be a good way to go adding a lot in a very small level frame.

But yes, this wont be until the expansion at least.

If you can summon Ramuh like in FF XV unmergud im switching jobs just for that lol

They already confirmed Ramuh-egi and Leviathan-egi for Heavensward. I don't have the source because this confirmation came ages ago last year back when Heavensward was just announced.

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Seems to be getting new spellings though

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...c'mon, everyone just rolled past this nugget?

/wellplayedChihaya

Liked and reposted, cos u know someone missed it!

I think SE should take a better look on the summons, they look horrible and made of clay.

I really hope we don't get either of the three, I just want Carbuncle.

SMN is ruined since the beginning anyway. So ok we will have ramuh and levi, great.

We have already titan as tank, garuda as caster and ifrit as dps, so levi will be the "new" caster? and ramuh the "new" dps?

Come on, if the new egi have just the same skills than others but a diffrent ugly skin, i don't see the point of it.

FF11 smn was awsome cause each summon had his own spells/skills/buff for each situation but in 14.....the gameplay is so simple that i don't find it interesting.

They should skip the 2.x primals as egis now in all honesty.
Have the primals we fight in 3.0 become the egi's why on earth give ramuh and levi now, when thats old content >.<

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Originally Posted by Loki

SMN is ruined since the beginning anyway. So ok we will have ramuh and levi, great.

We have already titan as tank, garuda as caster and ifrit as dps, so levi will be the "new" caster? and ramuh the "new" dps?

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Levi = water = healer or supporter
Ramuh = lightning = DoTs

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When is summoner getting ramuh/shiva/levi a complete rework?

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Fixed that for ya.

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Originally Posted by ZhycranaDranix

If you can summon Ramuh like in FF XV unmergud im switching jobs just for that lol

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I dont think anyone would switch class for that:

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Originally Posted by Jediman

I agree with you it looks crap http://i.imgur.com/s1MGZvX.png
Makes be wonder they got no idea how the dam summoner pets look like.

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Well, maybe with time they changed the style of it, but i would not bet on it...

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

Seems to be getting new spellings though

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Yeah, in the expansion.

You haters can cry all you want. Summoner is fine, the egis are fine.

Are we going to get more, well yeah. Will they be Ramuh, Shiva, and Leviathan? Eh.. I don't think so personally. Perhaps Shiva if any of those three. Though I think they may create the new summons/egis around these new primals and not the old ones.

lol wounded how SE going To go around the whole elemental thing for smn? Right now we have a tank/caster/melee, something needs to change for the expansion or same thing will happen "one pet to rule them all"

They could use the Primordials as the new LB tho, LB1 Ramuh, LB2 Leviathan, LB3 Shiva (or in another order)

My big hope for Summoner is that summoning the pet still takes time and MP, but swapping pets becomes an instant free action. It would allow for interesting and versatile pets that can be used in different circumstances instead of everyone just summoning whichever will contribute most dps and then basically ignoring it.

With the summons being as lame as they are, does anyone really care?
I think garuda and titan still look like a total joke to me as egi.

No I don't think they need to be as big as the original summons but who says we needed to have them all visible at all times anyway?!

Make summons impressive long cool-down big hits that need to be used with strategy and then I'll roll SMN. For now it just doesn't seem worth it to level.

don't really care. this job became a joke long time ago and SE shows no intention to revamp it so I stop playing it as well.

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Originally Posted by Kio

I really hope we don't get either of the three, I just want Carbuncle.

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I was thinking the same thing! I just want my Carby back :(

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Originally Posted by Loki

SMN is ruined since the beginning anyway.

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that pun... I don't know if it's good or bad

Smn isn't smn. Its a warlock with less powerful pets and spells.

I'd rather a Bismark Egi if we do get one. As to the role of the Egi, please let it be something useful as a dps i.e. no heals. I'd hate for a skill to be completely wasted on an Egi with completely limited use again.

I would love for both summoner and blackmage to be reworked. I'm fine with melee being a spam fest. We are supposed to be up close and personal so I think all the button pressing makes for a more chaotic feeling. I've always viewed casters as more elegant and deliberate. They aren't constantly casting spells, but rather spending more time per spell and having some downtime between casts. A blackmage should cast Thunder over the span of a 3-4 seconds and then not cast another nuke for about 5-10 seconds after that. Summoner should spend 5 seconds summoning an avatar, have it out for around 5-10 seconds and then not be able to summon another one for 15-20 seconds.

That is just my ideal for casters and I know it wouldn't fit into the game very well.

I'd also be happy with an Alexander tank egi. If he looked cool.

But yes, I agree there are some things wrong with it. But I still have fun with it

I think smn looks great and in glad egis look lovely. BUT Egis need to be rebalance because I'm bored of using garuda. They should make ifrit and titan stronger too

SMN are fine as they are, only tweak they really need is some way to keep their mp up in really long high end fights. Also in a recent Famitsu interview, Yoshi said spell speed will be reworked in 3.0 and that it will affect dots.

As far as new egi roles, there is still room for quite a few, leviathan could be physical ranged dps (think his tail barbs), ramuh could be focused around ranged aoe, not sure about shiva, maybe she can get stances for different weapons, that changes her auto attacks and other skills?

ANother SMN haters post? ¬¬

SMN are fine, mp its a bit more affortable after the last changes.

For me: Levi should be a ranger physical DPS (like tail atacks) with Fear (like his adds) and the water pool skill (like his adds- shadow flare)
Ramuh magical dps with some thunder DOT u can also spread with bane and may charm (like the une u get from chaos)

I am hoping for more skills to buff my pets (no more skills for the SMN imself) and may some "Tranfer pain skill" (tranfer x % of ur dmg to the egi)

I cant see SHiva or King Mog as egis

SMN is lame currently, rework is a must.

My thoughts if they do old primals (would rather it be new primals)

I see lavi as the area attack summon with surport spells, ramuh as the dot master, gives its own dot and maybe a version of contagion if this is new caster.

As for tank I can see shiva and her sword and shield.

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Originally Posted by Ryans

I would love for both summoner and blackmage to be reworked. I'm fine with melee being a spam fest. We are supposed to be up close and personal so I think all the button pressing makes for a more chaotic feeling. I've always viewed casters as more elegant and deliberate. They aren't constantly casting spells, but rather spending more time per spell and having some downtime between casts. A blackmage should cast Thunder over the span of a 3-4 seconds and then not cast another nuke for about 5-10 seconds after that. Summoner should spend 5 seconds summoning an avatar, have it out for around 5-10 seconds and then not be able to summon another one for 15-20 seconds.

That is just my ideal for casters and I know it wouldn't fit into the game very well.

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Let me guess how this sequence finishes:

You'd also like to see SMN get higher Physick potency to give them something to do in between those 15-20 seconds. Some of us SMNs have been to that rodeo in XI and it still smells like bull manure.

FINAL FANTASY 15 RAMUH. Take notes FF14 team

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Originally Posted by Valoiz

ANother SMN haters post? ¬¬

SMN are fine, mp its a bit more affortable after the last changes.

For me: Levi should be a ranger physical DPS (like tail atacks) with Fear (like his adds) and the water pool skill (like his adds- shadow flare)
Ramuh magical dps with some thunder DOT u can also spread with bane and may charm (like the une u get from chaos)

I am hoping for more skills to buff my pets (no more skills for the SMN imself) and may some "Tranfer pain skill" (tranfer x % of ur dmg to the egi)

I cant see SHiva or King Mog as egis

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I didnt start this as a hate post I started as a when is the new Guys coming. I know they were talked about In past.

Also I agree with another poster that the other egis need to be buffed so garuda isnt forced down our throat. the main reason I turned sch (and love it now) is cuz everyone is all "you *have* to use garuda or your trash" so I said screw that and became a healer.

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Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72

I didnt start this as a hate post I started as a when is the new Guys coming. I know they were talked about In past.

Also I agree with another poster that the other egis need to be buffed so garuda isnt forced down our throat. the main reason I turned sch (and love it now) is cuz everyone is all "you *have* to use garuda or your trash" so I said screw that and became a healer.

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Ifrit is perfectly acceptable in several fights, has been for a while now.

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Originally Posted by Loki

SMN is ruined since the beginning anyway. So ok we will have ramuh and levi, great.

We have already titan as tank, garuda as caster and ifrit as dps, so levi will be the "new" caster? and ramuh the "new" dps?

Come on, if the new egi have just the same skills than others but a diffrent ugly skin, i don't see the point of it.

FF11 smn was awsome cause each summon had his own spells/skills/buff for each situation but in 14.....the gameplay is so simple that i don't find it interesting.

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I wish comments like the one above would be forwarded to the devteam for once. The future of smn seems pretty dull.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Ifrit is perfectly acceptable in several fights, has been for a while now.

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Tell you how long ago I went sch XD

I still have my smn... Kinda... Geared lol. I'll do solo stuff with it cuz I can use whoever. But I haven't gone party as smn for around 8 months.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

don't really care. this job became a joke long time ago and SE shows no intention to revamp it so I stop playing it as well.

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Those confirmed 10 levels with new abilities, traits, and summons certainly show they care so little. /sarcasm

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Originally Posted by melflomil

FINAL FANTASY 15 RAMUH. Take notes FF14 team

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That is literally impossible in an MMO. You know that right?

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

Those confirmed 10 levels with new abilities, traits, and summons certainly show they care so little. /sarcasm



That is literally impossible in an MMO. You know that right?

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It actually isn't, pets in EQ1 got pretty damn massive + the height bolstering spells worked on them so they ended up being like 2~3 stories high at times. EQ2 still has a lot of larger pets, if you count charmed animals/metamorphasis wands.

I feel like the biggest reason players and SE have for not necessarily feeling like full-sized primals would work relates to them possibly blocking the view of battlefield stuff like AoEs or objects. Which is definitely a valid argument since this game specifically works different than two I mentioned above. However it is possible that they could either give a sort of 'full power release' as a temporary buff for the Egis; they borrow enough of your power to become full primal form for about 20 seconds, utilizing a stronger version of their mainstay skills or gaining some sort of benefit (Ex. 100% critical and expanded AoE radius for Ifrit) or have Summoner's LB 3 activate a skill with an add-on effect based on the Egi you have out.

The Egis also need some base-level rework though, seeing as you need to be an extremely skilled pet manipulator to make Ifrit work properly it seems.