Tbh idk wat your idea with market wards is anyways it's basically a shitty AH, you have to walk around and browse bazaars or walk to the end of it just to search a new items.
Why not make it simple and put a damn AH like FFXI i can't explain how annoying it is not to mention All Market wards are dead except for uh'dah one..
Put an AH!
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08-29-2011, 03:53 PMRiseAgainstPut an AH!
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08-29-2011, 04:15 PMMedura
Noob alert, please check for trolls and run your anti-troll control.
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08-29-2011, 06:09 PMManitu
lol....clearly :)
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08-29-2011, 06:18 PMFira_Bug
I think the market wards is a fresh new idea. At first it sucked but now with the search function its amazing. Yes it sucks that Uldah is the only active one. I think a great fix for it would be what they did in XI, link all of the markets together. Since its in wards, maybe make them larger.
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08-30-2011, 03:32 PMGreyWolf
I agree with OP entirely
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09-05-2011, 07:40 AMStateAlchemist
I want an AH. And if you refuse. Then for God sake allow us to bazaar everything on the retainer simultaneously and do not diffrentiate the bazaar from the inventory as far as space goes. I dont need 110 slots per retainer 100 storage and 10 to sell with. I need 100 storage that also doubles as my sellable slots. and for that matter take away the exta slot eaten up by the reward on repairs. its silly
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09-05-2011, 11:57 AMIranaSomeone doesnt know what a trll is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Medura
Nub alert!
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09-06-2011, 02:32 PMevilmica
I want an ah also.
If your going to keep the market ward at least make the search like 11 ah seriously if i have to look for a head piece put it in a section for head piece not over complicate it with w/e craft or low/mid/high bs. I know all i'm asking is for more convenience. However it's confusing to go to amormor w/e srry i forget whats it called just for me to check if I can wear a certain head piece then go back to low/mid/high gears section. Even though they're exactly the same thing.
I do like the market ward but it just feels it's kinda retardedly done. -
09-06-2011, 05:58 PMGalliano
OK I liked the AH in XI and the market wards are cumbersome and slow. I think we should have an AH that dosen't keep a sale history, that way the price can't be driven up by RMT or greedy players (I think that was one of the reasons they didn't put an AH in XIV). Along side the AH keep the market wards for people to bazaar items but don't have a search function, so you can grab something off the AH if you really need it, or you can spend time browsing bazaars for special items. Finally put a sales tax on AH items but not on bazaars, forcing people to sell high price items in their bazaar to avoid sales tax and so making players have to hunt to find that rare item they need.
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09-06-2011, 08:03 PMMattyWS
Market Wards are just silly. There are better ways to do it than Market Wards and it doesn't have to be an AH.
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09-06-2011, 08:55 PMAngryNixon
'Put an AH' indeed. Where to put it is the question. How about next to the MWs that way we can see whether or not the MWs really are, as some claim, a new and interesting in game system worthy of continued use.
I wager a sack full of marmot heads the MW would rapidly fall into obscurity and very few people would continue to bother using it.
That being said, for the time being we have a system of some kind that meets the most basic needs in an MMO economy and not a drop more, that is to say the ability for players to sell their goods to other players. They gave it a better search function which was a decent bandage for now.
The AH/MW/Other debate at this point should take a back seat to things that are totally absent, like mount systems (which are soon to arrive), mailboxes, complete lack of LS administration tools, 'content', the job system etc... While it might be said that the quality of many existing in game systems is sorely lacking at least those systems exist in some form as opposed to not at all. I'd think one would want to tackle the larger 'not at all' issues before the barely functional (but present) systems we have now. -
10-11-2011, 11:13 AMMarquisbernThat made me laugh out loud and share your post. We need an Auction House.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryNixon
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10-13-2011, 02:39 AMKalakeitto
AH would be great, as a beginner i can't find anything. Not even pair of fresh adventurer boots.
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10-13-2011, 02:42 AMPrettyPrincess
You used wat, therefore I automatically do not care for what you have to say. Also there are 2975870914712 threads on this. WHY IS SEARCH FUNCTION SO HARD!?
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10-13-2011, 02:44 AMsyntaxlies
i think i hate the wards more for selling then i do buying. i have to go to the item search counter the get a piece of paper, write down all the stuff i gotta sell, check all the going rates, go back to retainers, exchange item, esc, select bazaar on retainer and then start listing items. really a hassle to do on a daily basis. plus no sell history. i have to keep my own log on paper.
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10-13-2011, 02:52 AMsmokymcweed
i agree completly with the op nothing at all wrong with the ah system the market wards are slow cumbersome and tedious to use PLEASE BRING BACK MY AH
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10-13-2011, 03:34 AMNayt
I'd like an AH too ; ;
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10-14-2011, 07:36 AMVesperlol, even with the search it still sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fira_Bug
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10-14-2011, 07:41 AMJackDanielsGod you're really getting on my nerves. Can you maybe once, just once, post on topic instead of tearing people down? 859 posts of 'this thread has been done before' and 'want some mccries with that' like ffs grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess
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10-14-2011, 09:59 AMMarquisbernWell we wouldn't need another thread on this if FFXIV just delivered what they promised on the back of the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess
I don't know why you'd expect us to stop talking about the issue.
Btw, I can use an ad-blocker extension in Chrome to block that ugly waving gif. -
10-14-2011, 10:34 AMTenshiI agree completely with this. The current setup is barely functional (it reminds me of a yard sale) and it will need more than a bandage eventually, but there are other systems that need more immediate attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryNixon
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10-15-2011, 03:09 AMNapalmz
I bought ffxiv collectors edition and played on release. It was absolutely horrendous and i quit and returned to WoW. 1 year later i returned as i realised it was still free and i must say im impressed with most of it - apart from these terrible market wards and the lack of mail system.
I still cannot believe this is being debated.
If FFXIV carries on then i will continue to play (and pay) but the lack of ah is a complete deal breaker for me and i simple wont play (or pay) for this substandard attempt to run an ingame economy. I feel that right now FFXIV is behind in so many ways (most of which are tolerable) but this one isnt. Please SE, i implore you - add a proper auction house as a priority because the current system is alienating players. -
10-16-2011, 01:18 AMgardei
I been off and on playing the game; what turns me off is how hard it is to buy stuff, and how much harder it is to sell stuff. AH in FFXI was great... for items you didn't care much for you can just put up for low amount of gil, and most of the time people bid the going rate. For items you want to get the Gil worth, you can take the time to check the going rate.
Here in FFXIV its a PITA selling. Have to take notes on the items you want to sell, and many of the items you can't find. Takes hours to set up the bazaar.... hours better spent doing something else; or playing FFXI.
Also, NO AH will be a deal breaker for me when this game goes back to pay-2-play. -
10-19-2011, 10:25 PMAtamis
Is there a dislike button? Because this is not only a grammatical train wreck but an idea i cannot agree with.
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10-20-2011, 01:10 AMPrettyPrincessum, no. Also I think you are the one needing to grow up silly puppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackDaniels
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10-20-2011, 01:12 AMPrettyPrincessAlso there was no AH promised on the box. lrn2readQuote:
Originally Posted by Marquisbern
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10-21-2011, 05:36 PMGreyWolfUnfortunately from what I read we're only getting AH like features added to MW -.-; and this thread will continue to thrive because a lot of people actually want an AH/Broker system. Unfortunate that a few people are too stubborn to realize/accept the fact that their opinion isn't the opinion everyone else has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marquisbern
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10-21-2011, 05:53 PMNayt
I'm betting they keep the markets until 2.0 and then revamp the whole thing to a desirable system. What that system will be is largely dependant on what people talk about on the forums
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11-13-2011, 04:45 AMMistyMewagreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nayt
i respect the fact that some like the wards, and you cant deny the new team has improved them by leaps and bounds. at least it is possible to find something in a few min. before it took hours.....literally @@.
i think they have done all they can with the current restrictions from the "old team design" we will have to wait for 2.0 to really see a huge revamp, i do believe we will see it.
persoanlly do i like the wards?....somewhat
do i think its as smooth to use as an ah?.....no
do i want an ah......hmmmm well, yea i do.
will i freak out if they are not added?....nope
would i freak out if mail isnt added?....yup :eek:
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12-10-2011, 02:13 PMVanguard319That isn't so much a problem with the mw, and more to do with few people actually crafting and selling low level gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalakeitto
personally, I prefer the MW to the inevitable crush of mules who will "occupy" the immediate area around an AH, making said AH horribly lagged due to thier overwhelming prescence. -
12-11-2011, 09:27 AMToxicFox
I would like to see the AH from FFXI return but maybe make it so you can't AH stuff like materia. It it isn't broken don't fix it.
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12-11-2011, 10:58 AMNoctisUmbraExcept MW is not a fix for AH. It is a new idea, with various pros of its own - particularly for the seller.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToxicFox
The change we are getting with 1.20 strikes an agreeable balance allowing for an AH-like speedy purchasing experience for the buyer, whilst maintaining the unique flavor the Wards bring. Both parties can be happy with this.
What really needs to be fixed as soon as possible, and was addressed that it would be done by 1.20b if I recall correctly, is the ability to see the quality and melds on items for sale directly through search and even search for specific qualities ourselves. -
12-11-2011, 11:12 AMBabydoll
I agree with op. Just make a simplified AH and be done with it..
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12-11-2011, 12:21 PMToxicFoxOf course its a new idea and its a good one. I remember them saying a long time ago that they would add a AH if the wards didn't work out. Trying to make the two mix isn't a great idea however having both could work out.Quote:
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12-11-2011, 02:15 PMNoctisUmbraI'm not trying to spark anything lol. Don't take my replying to you personally, I read and reply to many posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToxicFox
As for your point, having both separately would be redundant and not productive in any way. AH is pure seller convenience and thus all people would rather buy from AH - making MW obsolete.
What they have with 1.20 and the surcharge is a very good solution in my opinion. The only downside to a traditional AH from a buyer's perspective is the surcharge - which honestly is a very reasonable addition for the convenience and to keep the actual market wards zoning relevant.
It's a good compromise.
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12-11-2011, 03:02 PMToxicFoxIdk it feels like they sometimes take a dead idea and try to make it work instead of just using something that already works. No one can say for sure if the new patch is a hit or a miss but we'll find out soon. I'm just hoping I can view the history of a item from my retainer that way its easier to sell items. I've been holding off on selling stuff cause its a pain to track down the prices. Would be nice if the search was based on items instead of rows too. I hope that is what they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra
Hehe had fun in our last debate. This time though there isn't much point in it since so much is unknown. -
12-12-2011, 02:04 AMNakiamiieI'm sorry, but I too feel like the comprise of having market wards with direct selling is the way to go. Obviously, there is tweaking to be done, but we can get the best of the two worlds with that compromise.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToxicFox
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01-10-2012, 08:09 AMRatm3000
They said they were "looking into it..." placing an auction house, but with SE you never know with SE. Wards was a bad idea from a start and is just going to get worse as the game develops and attracts more players and if they merge wards together, god help us entering the wards. Auction House is easier to implement and has the simple function...why would you hire someone to stand in the wards to sell your crap and store it. They as well need to allow us to sell more in bazaar and distance to access it needs to change because currently I have to be on top of the person to see what they have in there.
SE should sticky topics like these because new threads keep getting made and would be a lot easier for them to get information from once place. If they even read threads...and get ideas. :) -
01-10-2012, 08:39 AMDawiichan
I still stand with my thought on Market Wards. In all honestly I don't believe they can be used as a way of selling things for the whole server economy. I think they would work best for something smaller, maybe something like a Free Company Market where you can offer crafting services and such.